Naruto vs Sasuke in the end..?

[Amaterasu]

Dude, Naruto had to learn like 20 stages of different Kurama chakra control Lmao. And fusing it into his senju mode and stuff.

@Bold He only learned KCM.
@Underlined He didn't learn that.

 

[Wind Squid]

@Bold He only learned KCM.
@Underlined He didn't learn that.

Excuze me,

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He totally learned how to tug of war kurama, then how to mix it with his sennin mode, then how to fuse rasenshuriken with kurama chakra and other senjutsu, plus he learned how to use little bits of kurama chakra to summon, and a whole other crap

 

[Amaterasu]

The only thing Sasuke earned is the basic tomoe sharingan (one tomoe, two tomoe and three tomoe). The rest was given

And before you say "he earned MS"

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Misinterpretation, he earned MS, just like other tomoes :

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Ty and get lost

 

[Ambivalence]

And before you say "he earned MS"

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Fail scan is fail, i've debated on this back when it came out on Narutopedia, and the original literally translates to ''he transferred his eye power at the last second'', which was referring to that fail-safe Amaterasu, not all his eye techniques, which the Japanese line for it should have been ''Tsubete no doryouku''.

A small portion ? Sasuke said himself that Naruto is nothing compared to him.

Strongest bijuu ? Did you forget that Kurama wasn't at full power ?

How the hell does that prove anything? He said he may be the strongest person currently, and that was only after he started siphoning the chakra bits from the Bijuu. Can you even read?

Strongest bijuu ? Did you forget that Kurama wasn't at full power ?

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When was Kurama ever at full power? When has any Bijuu except the Ten Tails ever displayed anything that even comes close to what Kurama's 50% has? Didn't a single TBB from 50% Kurama equal out a TBB from 5, fully-powered Bijuu?

I'm done, you Naruto fans are too much.

 

[Amaterasu]

Excuze me,

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He totally learned how to tug of war kurama, then how to mix it with his sennin mode, then how to fuse rasenshuriken with kurama chakra and other senjutsu, plus he learned how to use little bits of kurama chakra to summon, and a whole other crap

Show me the panel the training then. And not a training of KCM, he earned the rest. And fir mixing SM with Kurama, it's just Kurama who said he could mix them, he didn't learned it, because he did it in the past without knowing it.

When he met Nagato :

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[UzumakiWade]

Fail scan is fail, i've debated on this back when it came out on Narutopedia, and the original literally translates to ''he transferred his eye power at the last second'', which was referring to that fail-safe Amaterasu, not all his eye techniques, which the Japanese line for it should have been ''Tsubete no doryouku''.

VIZ Scan or it never happened, do you honestly think ill believe you on words alone? Until you can bring me a legit VIZ Scan, my scan is still a hundred percent legit. Also Eye power = Powers which are used from your eyes = all the powers Itachi can use from his eyes = Itachi's MS techs. So once again, scan of the VIZ translation from the VIZ site or it never happened.

Misinterpretation, he earned MS, just like other tomoes :

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Ty and get lost

How on earth does that scan disprove the scan i posted at all? Actually explain how exactly it was misinterpreted with 100% manga scans backing you up and i'll believe you. Until then, the burden of proof still lays heavily on your shoulders.

 

[Amaterasu]

How on earth does that scan disprove the scan i posted at all? Actually explain how exactly it was misinterpreted with 100% manga scans backing you up and i'll believe you. Until then, the burden of proof still lays heavily on your shoulders.

Sasuke didn't awaken MS on the scan you posted, he awakened it later. So that wasn't given, he earned it. You basically implied that Itachi gave MS to Sasuke, but he just given him Amaterasu. I hope your brain can comprehend.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Sasuke didn't awaken MS on the scan you posted, he awakened it later. So that wasn't given, he earned it. You basically implied that Itachi gave MS to Sasuke, but he just given him Amaterasu. I hope your brain can comprehend.

I like how you throw petty insults around like an immature kid when ur losing a debate. Also have you not heard of the term "unlocking" a power-up. For example, Naruto unlocking KCM even though he had Kurama since he was born, he "unlocked" kcm. Its the exact same thing with Sasukes MS and also, he did awaken MS, he just didnt use it. He already killed his brother which was the requirement to unlock MS.

 

[take it easy]

How the hell does that prove anything? He said he may be the strongest person currently, and that was only after he started siphoning the chakra bits from the Bijuu. Can you even read?

i'm the strongest there is now... (after absorbing bijuus chakra)

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When was Kurama ever at full power?

Madara vs Hashirama. Simple PS sword slash enough to deal with his TBB .

When has any Bijuu except the Ten Tails ever displayed anything that even comes close to what Kurama's 50% has? Didn't a single TBB from 50% Kurama equal out a TBB from 5, fully-powered Bijuu?

Yeah 5 bijuus only... IDK how it equals all bijuus.

 

[lndra]

You are completely right. The minute Sasuke used the Tailed Beast against Naruto, it was decided that he was weaker than him

 

[Amaterasu]

I like how you throw petty insults around like an immature kid when ur losing a debate.

"I hope your brain can comprehend"

Oh wow, hardly an insult Lol

Also have you not heard of the term "unlocking" a power-up. For example, Naruto unlocking KCM even though he had Kurama since he was born, he "unlocked" kcm. Its the exact same thing with Sasukes MS and also, he did awaken MS, he just didnt use it.

Of course, you don't have any proof that he had MS when talked to Obito.

He already killed his brother which was the requirement to unlock MS.

:leaf: The requirement for unlocking MS is losing a loved one, the Uchiha eyes are connected to the brain and when someone you love dies, or even when you get a really strong feeling, you awaken the Sharingan (Sasuke awaken his first tomoe after he saw Itachi killed his whole clan) :

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"The eyes who reflects feeling, the Sharingan"

Sasuke awakened when he learned the "truth" and remembered Itachi crying after his assault.
Also, it was never stated that the requirement is to kill his brother Lol. Obito awakened it when he saw Rin dying.

 

[lndra]

You and Spacey Orange need to get some glasses and/or preferably some reading comprehension. I'm sick of Naruto fans saying this BS that Sasuke used 8 Bijuu. You know what i imagine when someone says that? Sasuke becoming a pseudo Juubi Jin, having absorbed the full power of all of the Tailed Beasts and having massive chakra levels and much highly destructive techniques. If he truly did that, Naruto would be dead.

Get real, Sasuke used small portions of their chakra just to form a new Susano'o and use one attack. What he absorbed was only enough to even out Naruto's 50% Kurama, which is already proven to have more than even 100% Eight Tails and more than most of the others put together. But no, let's just throw in that Sasuke used 8 Bijuu.

What i said above doesn't really matter, though, because the fact stands: RSM Naruto > Rinnegan Sasuke from the get go. I don't see how one crappy Rinnegan can make up for Naruto's RSM + the strongest Tailed Beast, let alone Naruto + all other Bijuus, a.k.a 1 vs 10. It's just impossible. Naruto was simply given more power(ups)...

See that's the problem with your conclusion. Is that Sasuke did not use a "small" amount of their Bijuu chakra. In fact trying to form any logical answer for that amount of Bijuu is unreal. Did he use a lot, a little, or maybe just enough? Who knows. It was stated that he used enough for the Susano'o to become a Gedo Manzo. ENOUGH chakra for his Susano'o to actually transform into something new, and have enough chakra to form an Indra Arrow.

Kurama was not even strong enough to face that kind of power by itself. The only reason why Naruto won that fight in the first place was because Kurama gathered Senjutsu/Natural Energy to boost their power needed to stop it. What's worse is that Naruto still would of lost that match up if he did not use Fuuton (Wind) against the Indra Arrrow which was lightning (Elemental Advantage). So trying to say BS like Sasuke did not use their power enough, or he used only a little bit of their power. Is an understatement of the year, and a bad comprehension of the fight itself. Now let me tell you a conclusion. Naruto needed three BM avatars to fuse together to even stand up to the level of power/chakra Sasuke had. So think about that for a minute, let's not even include the fact that he needed to mesh Senjutsu in the mix as-well. A LOT of it too.

Naruto was given more powerups? Rikudou Mode, the one without the cloak. That is one powerup itself, right? When Naruto used the cloak with his RM mode, did that become two powers? Yeah, why not? He used Kyuubi chakra to enhance himself, so let's state that he gained another. What about Sasuke huh? He gained the Rinnegan. Is that a power up? Did he gain anything other than a Rinnegan that counts as a new power? What about Amenotejikara? Is that a power Rinnegan users get? Does Naruto have all the Tailed Beast power? Yes. Did he use any in the fight? No that was restricted, much like the other Path techniques that was not shown in the fight at all.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Fail scan is fail, i've debated on this back when it came out on Narutopedia, and the original literally translates to ''he transferred his eye power at the last second'', which was referring to that fail-safe Amaterasu, not all his eye techniques, which the Japanese line for it should have been ''Tsubete no doryouku''.

Jeez, people are still arguing about that Obito quote? It's been debunked time and time again, the RAW makes no mention of how much Itachi gave him, merely that eye power was transferred, it's up to context regarding plurality, the databook entry on the Transcription Seal proved it was a one-shot tech that the recipient has no control over, and that Amaterasu can only open to those who have acquired the Mangekyo, which Sasuke hadn't.

OT: Why do people assume Sasuke took much more chakra than Naruto places in his avatar? It wouldn't have fit Susanoo if he took much more as that is what his Susanoo was previously shown covering and he was shown in shock at Naruto merely handling the chakra of the BSM avatar just hours beforehand. There is a finite amount of chakra one can handle at once, and Sasuke is not on the Sage's level regarding scale, only in how he can fuse the Bijuu's chakra. If he had taken that much chakra from the Bijuu it would have completely dwarfed Naruto's Bijuu Avatar, which it doesn't. [

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[lndra]

OT: Why do people assume Sasuke took much more chakra than Naruto places in his avatar? It wouldn't have fit Susanoo if he took much more as that is what his Susanoo was previously shown covering and he was shown in shock at Naruto merely handling the chakra of the BSM avatar just hours beforehand. There is a finite amount of chakra one can handle at once, and Sasuke is not on the Sage's level regarding scale, only in how he can fuse the Bijuu's chakra. If he had taken that much chakra from the Bijuu it would have completely dwarfed Naruto's Bijuu Avatar, which it doesn't. [

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You are basing your conclusion on size, rather the scaling of the power itself? When has a Susano'o ever merged with something and grew taller, or stronger? Perfect Susano'o I mean.

Madara probably has the largest Susano'o in the manga, other than the Indra hype. That's beside the point, the Bijuu chakra Sasuke took was not to create a Susano'o that varied in sizes. He used his normal Susano'o to fuse their powers to increase his own, even stating that his Susano'o did not grow in an inch is not very articulate, when the point of Gedo Manzou-Susano'o was only to transform it into something else. Being able to store that power is more of a feat than it actually growing in size. I agree on one part though, Sasuke can only handle so much chakra, so that's probably the reason why it does vary in sizes. Even after chakra is placed in it.

 

[Draphsin]

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Naruto always had a bit of each bijuu's chakra inside of him, however he's also a perfect jin of all of them in a sense, thus when he uses their power it's stronger than usual. That means that rinnegan sasuke was always at a disadvantage because he lacked the bijuu chakra, when he gained their chakra by force he was merely evening out the battlefield & the fight wasn't technically "fair" until he did that.

RSM Naruto w/o the bijuu's chakra should be = rinnegan sasuke w/o the bijuu based on portrayal.

 

[lndra]

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Naruto always had a bit of each bijuu's chakra inside of him, however he's also a perfect jin of all of them in a sense, thus when he uses their power it's stronger than usual. That means that rinnegan sasuke was always at a disadvantage because he lacked the bijuu chakra, when he gained their chakra by force he was merely evening out the battlefield & the fight wasn't technically "fair" until he did that.

RSM Naruto w/o the bijuu's chakra should be = rinnegan sasuke w/o the bijuu based on portrayal.

Sigh, no. Viz scan is below.
"You only hold a little piece of Bijuu chakra now"

That was a statement regarding the powers between the both of them in regards of their chakra. Naruto had already used up too much of their chakra during the fight between JJ Madara/Kaguya. Naruto in the fight against Sasuke, could only use Kurama, and Kurama only. There was no indication of their being used at all, like the past experiences where they would form some sort of telepathic communication first. Unless someone is going to sit here and tell me that Naruto's BM avatar is not Kurama's. Naruto was restricted of their power.

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[Amaterasu]

Indra, I'm waiting you for countering my claims. Oh wait you can't

 

[lndra]

Indra, I'm waiting you for countering my claims. Oh wait you can't

When did you quote me? If you have something important to say quote me. It won't be that hard

 

[Amaterasu]

When did you quote me? If you have something important to say quote me. It won't be that hard

Alll my claims from that topic.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

Its funny how people forgot Sasuke actually casting Genjutsu, than using 9 CT on bijuus and maintaining this for the entire fight. They think he took their powers without consequence, we saw Nagato was crying his a** out after 1 CT, he must've used enourmous amount of chakra for 9 of them.

Lets not forget about Naruto's Kyuubi was given to him both by Minato and Obito. Though the latter also gave him additional Ichibi and Hachibi chakra.
They say Naruto defeated Kyuubi and took its powers so its normal that power belongs to him. I don't remember Sasuke filling an application form in order to have bijuus chakra. He fought against them in a sense, he used Genjutsu which ended the fight the second it started, ever heard of suprise attack ? And unlike Naruto who needed Killer Bee's and his mothers help for it, he did all of it himself.