"Ability". You can't prove to me that "ability" refers to anything and everything the original can perform, which doesn't even begin to make sense considering if a move uses too much power, they wouldn't be able to use it. Limbo is the same exact thing. It's endowed with the user's ability just like it says for Water Clones, yet Limbo can only use Taijutsu.
Why should I have to prove it? You're the one who has to prove they cannot use it since nothing in particular is specified(Especially when in the entry it uses a plural term and uses Taijutus as an example)...@ bold, if a move uses up too much power but they have the amount of power in them due to the Chakra, why should that be a point?
Not to mention you cannot prove that GSB uses so much that they can't use it when I've shown clones can use high leveled Suiton which Tobirama did use making it a + on their side.
So yes, you are going to need proof if you want anyone to believe that they can replicate anything the original can.
They can as long as they have the chakra to do so which you haven't proved wrong...As long as they've shown they can use Ninjutsu, as long as we've seen a water clone using high leveled techniques Tobirama used.
Irrelevant, cause that doesn't take into account how much his own strongest attack takes.
Yeah? Since you're so bent on this attack point, why don't you show me where in the Manga was GSB shown to be scaled so high that it cannot be used by clones? Where was it referenced in the Manga that it's chakra level is so high that it cannot be replicated by clones with high leveled chakra from the original? Nowhere and nothing was stated about that.
And water prison is nowhere near the level of Kisame's regular Suiton let alone GSB.
That was to show you it's not just restricted to Taijutsu since it has shown the same ability as the original. Since a 10 percent of 30 could use it.
Lol, what kind of backwards logic are you using here? Using a lower leveled Jutsu at 30% is in no way, shape, or form proof that Kisame can use GSB with a clone that only has 10% of his chakra.
Lol because you failed to understand..He didn't use it at 30 percent. The 30 percent created clones of 10 percent, that's 10 percent of 30 percent of the original. So you misinterpreted it.
"It should be clear" isn't an argument, and I definitely don't see any compelling evidence in your post so I'm not sure why it should be clear. Being able to use the same jutsu=/=Being able to use all the jutsu of the original The only evidence you have is them using Water Prison, which doesn't take into account that GSB is TIERS above Water Prison. Tiers. That's like me saying Naruto can use COFRS after splitting his chakra in half 20 times just because he can use Rasengan.
Evidence of him not being able to use it is what you yourself haven't shown...You scale GSB so high but yet haven't shown me anything that suggest they can when I myself have shown clones using
high leveled suiton despite having piss poor level of chakra when compared to Kisame.
I used water prison as evidence of 30 percent out of the real creating 10 percent out of 30 percent of the real Kisame. You missed out on that.
10% Water Clone using a Water Wall is evidence that Kisame can replicate his strongest jutsu w/ 10%?
Uh, no.
?...It was already said to be high leveled which automatically means it uses a
high amount of Chakra by the actions of the Anbu. The technique is inferior to GSB but at the same time, the clone who used the technique is far inferior to Kisame's when chakra is put into play. Unless you're telling me GSB uses up a ridiculous amount of Chakra which you have not proved. Unless the difference from GSB and that High leveled Suiton is far more than Kisame's clone and Kakashi's clone? Nothing that suggest so.
Basically, I need to know if the difference in chakra usage of this High leveled Sution and GSB is comparable to that of Kakashi and Kisame's water clone which you can't prove.
Since when is replicating a weaker jutsu w/ 10% proof that he can replicate his strongest jutsu with 10%? That's like saying being able to make 2 pointers automatically means you can take it a step further and score 3s. Your logic doesn't work. This is a backwards argument.
Yeah? His strongest with no proof whatsoever. He has waterdome so I'm not sure what exactly triggered that...Manga proof? No. My point stands since I've shown Water clones can use high leveled techniques which uses a large amount of chakra...What you're ignoring is the fact that the clone who used it is far off from the real Kisame's clone in terms of Chakra.
All you have are scans of people using moves that are not their top techniques with 10%, to prove that Kisame can use his top technique with 10%.
All you're doing is
- Assuming GSB is his most powerful(Still possible) so they cannot use it when you failed to showed me the scaling of the Jutsu. When I've shown clones can replicate usage of a high leveled technique. Kisame has more than enough chakra so I still don't see why this is a problem when we don't even know if GSB uses so high by Kisame's standards.
If you're basing your point on the fact that GSB is his strongest, then you'd have to prove to me that GSB is his strongest when WD is arguably in the picture as well.
You'd have to prove to me that it uses soo much chakra, that the clones who are capable of using high leveled suiton cannot use it.
- Tobirama uses a high leveled Suiton which surprises the Anbu, Kakashi's clone does the same...Kakashi's clone is inferior to Kisame's clone in terms of Chakra by farr given his tailed beast comparison. GSB wasn't portrayed or said to be on such a high level that clones cannot use it.
DB entry states exactly what I and the manga state. That it absorbs chakra from the enemy's jutsu. We've already seen that Samehada can only absorb visible chakra, that's where I'm getting at. Little reason to believe that GSB is going to slam into the Hydra and absorb all of Orochimaru's chakra.
I only meant it would absorb its chakra when it has attacked it further weakening it. I don't get what you mean but I'm only saying it absorbs and grows.
Samehada=/=GSB...No it cannot only absorb visible Chakra. Read my next point.
Samehada can absorb chakra, but that doesn't mean it can absorb chakra straight from someone's body, whether or not contact is made.
So how does it absorb? Either way it can take chakra from one's body
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Didn't see your point.
EDIT: To add to this, I've just discovered you're even wrong...WaterDome is an S Rank Technique while GSB is an A Rank technique. The Jutsu Kakashi's clone replicated is a B Rank technique btw.
Main point is WD Is his strongest so there's not even that much of a reason to believe your claim regarding GSB.
