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Wrong. Hagoromo got his powers back once Kaguya was sealed.

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I'm not talking about that pity seals mortal. He had all the power in the world, yet what did he do ? He chose to waste everything for that worthless idea of a Ninshu. He could rule the world with that power, and he throw all away for hope. There is no such a thing, I made sure of that.
 

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I would say here that some powers of Hagoromo remained, after all Naruto and Sasuke are Ashura and Indra transmigrants, but most of the power went back to Hagoromo.
How are you so sure about that? The only thing that went back to hagoromo is the seal of his mother, nothing else suggest that he recovered some of his powers, remember he asked the kages to help them to summon back naruto and sasuke.
 

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You already answered your own question, he's dead so he doesn't need to have his powers back because he doesn't need it. So did you said this about hagoromo?

''If I said all of his power he will become fodder because his power no more.''



You didn't understand my question at all.

I asked you

''So instead of giving naruto and sasuke his powers, why didn't he fought kaguya and or madara by himself.''

He can't fight them because he's dead that's why he gave his body/eye powers to both naruto and sasuke.



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I understand your question, Im just joking around about that fanfiction. Chill out

About Im answering my own question, I actually unable to see that in the first place, its very tricky for me to believe that Hagoromo give them all of his power and he left empty. Because that Im asking a question here.

If Im fully understand about this matters, this thread will not exist here and today.
 

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I understand your question, Im just joking around about that fanfiction. Chill out
I'm chill.

About Im answering my own question, I actually unable to see that in the first place, its very tricky for me to believe that Hagoromo give them all of his power and he left empty. Because that Im asking a question here.
Madara even confirmed it, naruto = senjutsu, sasuke = eyes.

If Im fully understand about this matters, this thread will not exist here and today.
It's good to ask question, at least is something fresh of what we can see in NDS. Thank you for making this thread.
 

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Hagoromo gave his power half to Sasuke and half to Naruto plus he also gave them yin and yang seal.

Does Hagoromo still retained all of his power or his power is inside Naruto and Sasuke forever?

Because when members here said Naruto and Sasuke got half of Hagoromo power, its sound like Hagoromo give them all of his power, if not all I will say about 80% of his power. Thats mean Hagoromo power just left about 20%.

Is that right?

For wise peoples over here, please give your input, idea, opinion etc.
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They lost the seals on their hands after the 6 paths CT.
Hagoromo got back the seals on his hands.
But Sasuke didn't lose his rinnegan.

So they may still have the Yin and Yang power ups , but they can't make the 6 paths CT anymore.
 
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They lost the seals on their hands after the 6 paths CT.
Hagoromo got back the seals on his hands.
But Sasuke didn't lose his rinnegan.

So they may still have the Yin and Yang power ups , but they can't make the 6 paths CT anymore.
Yeah, I know they still have Yin and Yang power. But the question is not for them but for Hagoromo.

How do you see it, does Hagoromo still have his power or all of his power is inside NaruSasu forever?

And bonus question for you, if Hagoromo give them all of his power and left empty, will he gain back his former power after a period of time?
 

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You are talking about an amount of power , but this amount is not known.
Only Kishimoto can answer , only himself know how strong was Hagoromo in his prime.


But , here are some signs that he didn't give all his power to NaruSasu.
-Hagoromo never lost his 2 ended sun/moon staff , staff that seem to have a relation with the will of fire/will of hatred.

-We don't know what Hagoromo could do with his Yin Yang mastery , I bet that what we saw of his power (levitating , rinnegan jutsus , nunoboko sword , Naruto's Yang releases , Sasuke's Yin releases...) was just an idea of what he was able to do.

In this case , Hagoromo would have given just a little Yang and Yin power up to Naruto and Sasuke , and he would have plenty left in his pockets.
In this case Naruto and Sasuke would be fodders compared to Hagoromo.
 

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You are talking about an amount of power , but this amount is not known.
Only Kishimoto can answer , only himself know how strong was Hagoromo in his prime.


But , here are some signs that he didn't give all his power to NaruSasu.
-Hagoromo never lost his 2 ended sun/moon staff , staff that seem to have a relation with the will of fire/will of hatred.

-We don't know what Hagoromo could do with his Yin Yang mastery , I bet that what we saw of his power (levitating , rinnegan jutsus , nunoboko sword , Naruto's Yang releases , Sasuke's Yin releases...) was just an idea of what he was able to do.

In this case , Hagoromo would have given just a little Yang and Yin power up to Naruto and Sasuke , and he would have plenty left in his pockets.
In this case Naruto and Sasuke would be fodders compared to Hagoromo.
But that little powerup can match JJ Madara and Kaguya(Naruto at some point)

As you state in your post Hagoromo got plenty of power in his disposal

->Naruto get small part of Hago power up but able to tear up Kaguya hand. That is mean full power Hago can do much more damage to Kaguya

Do you think that make any sense.

Little power up can match JJ madara and press Kaguya very hard. If that true how strong is Hagoromo compared to Kaguya If small part of his power can put Kaguya in difficult situation.

Can you explain it.
 
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His chakra is infinite because he's immortal so he gave never gave half of anything. He just gave dojutsu power to Sasuke and body power to Naruto. Yin and Yang chakra were given to both of them it wasn't divided in two. The only thing divided in two was the seal.
 
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As you state in your post Hagoromo got plenty of power in his disposal
I didn't state anything.


->Naruto get small part of Hago power up but able to tear up Kaguya hand. That is mean full power Hago can do much more damage to Kaguya

Do you think that make any sense.
Yes.


Little power up can match JJ madara and press Kaguya very hard. If that true how strong is Hagoromo compared to Kaguya If small part of his power can put Kaguya in difficult situation.

Can you explain it.
Yes I can explain how it would be understandable that prime Hagoromo was way stronger than Kaguya.
-Hagoromo and Hamura sealed their mother when they were somewhat young , giving Hagoromo a lot of time to perfect his techniques.
-Hagoromo was never shawn with the Yin seal on his left hand before he sealed his mother , he may not master Yin at that moment , he may be way weaker at that moment (as weak as prime Naruto) than what he became at his prime , with Yin/Yang ultimate mastery , COAT mastery.

It was said (it's a legend) that the sage mastered COAT , and COAT>>>6 paths CT.
If the sage really mastered COAT , Sasuke and Naruto and Kaguya and Madara and ...are fodders.
 
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I think otherwise. I think it was the necessary thing to unlock the power. Like he link his soul to those 2, and unlock their power.
I think it works same as obito soul transfer, normal eyes turn into sharingan and further.
 

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I didn't state anything.




Yes.




Yes I can explain how it would be understandable that prime Hagoromo was way stronger than Kaguya.
-Hagoromo and Hamura sealed their mother when they were somewhat young , giving Hagoromo a lot of time to perfect his techniques.
-Hagoromo was never shawn with the Yin seal on his left hand before he sealed his mother , he may not master Yin at that moment , he may be way weaker at that moment (as weak as prime Naruto) than what he became at his prime , with Yin/Yang ultimate mastery , COAT mastery.

It was said (it's a legend) that the sage mastered COAT , and COAT>>>6 paths CT.
If the sage really mastered COAT , Sasuke and Naruto and Kaguya and Madara and ...are fodders.
But Hago never fought with Kaguya in her human form,

If juubi give him a problem but with Kaguya the problem is much worst

I think Kaguya in the manga or chapter 680 onward is not prime Kaguya plus her story plot is pure BS.

Hagoromo can study anything or perfecting anything but if he never faced Kaguya in human form you cant say he above Kaguya.

And already dead Hagoromo not have Juubi anymore.

Hagoromo with juubi = Kaguya or slightly above Kaguya, that is all
 

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But Hago never fought with Kaguya in her human form,

If juubi give him a problem but with Kaguya the problem is much worst

I think Kaguya in the manga or chapter 680 onward is not prime Kaguya plus her story plot is pure BS.

Hagoromo can study anything or perfecting anything but if he never faced Kaguya in human form you cant say he above Kaguya.

And already dead Hagoromo not have Juubi anymore.

Hagoromo with juubi = Kaguya or slightly above Kaguya, that is all
:what:

I never said Hago>Kaguya.
Reread my post.

You must be a Kaguya fan to react like that.
 

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:what:

I never said Hago>Kaguya.
Reread my post.

You must be a Kaguya fan to react like that.
What? You said prime Hago is stronger than Kaguya, stronger=above or superior

You actually happen to said it

This is your post

Yes I can explain how it would be understandable that prime Hagoromo was way stronger than Kaguya.
-Hagoromo and Hamura sealed their mother when they were somewhat young , giving Hagoromo a lot of time to perfect his techniques.
-Hagoromo was never shawn with the Yin seal on his left hand before he sealed his mother , he may not master Yin at that moment , he may be way weaker at that moment (as weak as prime Naruto) than what he became at his prime , with Yin/Yang ultimate mastery , COAT mastery.

It was said (it's a legend) that the sage mastered COAT , and COAT>>>6 paths CT.
If the sage really mastered COAT , Sasuke and Naruto and Kaguya and Madara and ...are fodders.


Yes Im Kaguya fan:)
 

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What? You said prime Hago is stronger than Kaguya, stronger=above or superior

You actually happen to said it

This is your post

Yes I can explain how it would be understandable that prime Hagoromo was way stronger than Kaguya.
-Hagoromo and Hamura sealed their mother when they were somewhat young , giving Hagoromo a lot of time to perfect his techniques.
-Hagoromo was never shawn with the Yin seal on his left hand before he sealed his mother , he may not master Yin at that moment , he may be way weaker at that moment (as weak as prime Naruto) than what he became at his prime , with Yin/Yang ultimate mastery , COAT mastery.

It was said (it's a legend) that the sage mastered COAT , and COAT>>>6 paths CT.
If the sage really mastered COAT , Sasuke and Naruto and Kaguya and Madara and ...are fodders.


Yes Im Kaguya fan:)
You don't understand english.

" it would be understandable that prime Hagoromo was way stronger than Kaguya."

It's different than:

"Hagoromo is way stronger than Kaguya".


Obviously , a Kaguya fan , from your reaction , that was clear.
You'll never admit that it is possible that someone is stronger than Kaguya , you bugged when you saw that , and you totally forgot to answer my points.
I understand that you can't reason , so be it.
 
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