Alabama puts warnings on science books ?

[NaNaNaaaaa]

Let me help you to offend me


Here is the list

1. Be a grammar nazi

2. Waste food

3. Be boring

4. Abuse animals or kids

5. Mistreat a book

6. Be a bully

7. Talk with food in your mouth

8. Support sentinel over Atlas

9. Support the Empire over the Stormcloaks

10. shoot the last dodo

11. Wank Dazni shimbuya here put your grammar nazi skills to use

12. Littering

13. Jaywalking

14. Political calls

15. Bother me at the mall about your phone plans

16. Teasing the monkeys at the zoo

17. Racism

18. Pants on the ground

19. Broccoli

20. Sneezing

21. Saying your a joker

22. Being a dis race to Floki the real joker

23. Hmmmmmmmm need to think some more

I missed something, what does any of this have to do with religion and science?

 

[Babadook]

Like I said; '' I'm sure there are some legitimate thoughts to point out it's flaws but no direct scientific research to back it up.''
I'm not even saying that evolution is 100% irrefutable. I'm saying that people would like to debunk it for the wrong reasons and come up with the degenerate arguments as to defend their delusions. Scientists do factual research but with the right intent. Which is the progress of universal knowledge without bias. Ofcourse there are scientists that are individuals of faith but atleast they stick to science to back up their statements and not holy claims.

Personally I don't even have a problem with the possibility of intelligent design. But I think it makes more sense if it's more of a perpetual mathemetical sequence of creation with no conscious deity bringing anything to life in a poof. The way a flower grows and blooms through the fibonacci sequence and how a human hand is formed the same way..it's all mathematically measurable and perceivable as a matrix of nature. It's just that the religious logic part that gets non-theist's jimmies rustled. It's annoying to see simple-minded folks make big claims backed up by a religious script they cannot even fathom to understand.

Science has no limits as the depth of the universe has no boundaries as far as we know. If our species cannot answer a universal question as of yet, it's accepted as such in the scientific community. The religious community on the other hand uses that awfully abused and twisted word; 'faith'. And that word puts a halt to wonder and development of rational thought and consideration. Other than that; I have to point out that there is thing called 'individuality' and not all people of faith are that gullible.

Critics aren't ridiculed for proposing a theory that disregards evolution as much as they are ridiculed for not having any factual research to back up those claims. It's a very complex situation really..evolution can't be presented in a moment as it's a process that takes thousands to millions of years to show actual change in an organism. Yet, there are plenty of facts to back it up.

Good thing you clarified yourself. You seemed to be generalizing.

Another problem is that Gödel proved that such mathematical theories would always have axiomes that can't be proven from within the system, and that such theory is either complete but inconsistent, or consistent but incomplete. So science does have its limits, anything beyond that is faith. And again, the belief in god doesn't halt rational thinking or scientific research.

 

[Red Flag X Drake]

I'm well aware of what you are saying- but did you get my point? I'm fine with you attributing this to chance: but how is it less logical to infer design? And noone has every explained in details, or proved beyond doubt how exactly "radioactivity under the sea from volcanoes or other things like that reacted differently and ...some became single cell organisms". Premordial soup is just another theory.

True however there is evidence supporting evolution and none supporting creationism. Ergo I will go with evolution.

 

[Babadook]

True however there is evidence supporting evolution and none supporting creationism. Ergo I will go with evolution.

I didn't deny evolution, though. I just don't think evolution excludes god.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

I missed something, what does any of this have to do with religion and science?

Why ask when you know the answer ???

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

Why ask when you know the answer ???

I don't know the answer, thats why I asked, what does being boring for instance have to to be faith and science, I'm afraid I don't get it

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

I don't know the answer, thats why I asked, what does being boring for instance have to to be faith and science, I'm afraid I don't get it

Look at the posts by hatake ruu whatever for some reason he got mad at me


just because I said all scientists care about is new ways to kill people or destroy he lists something's and yes they do invent good things hut for every good thing they find a dozen bad things he is under the assumption I despise science he is loco

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

Look at the posts by hatake ruu whatever for some reason he got mad at me


just because I said all scientists care about is new ways to kill people or destroy he lists something's and yes they do invent good things hut for every good thing they find a dozen bad things he is under the assumption I despise science he is loco

You are right, science does spend a good 50% if not more of its time inventing ways to kill people, just on the news today is a laser gun that can punch a hole through a car a mile away, of course medicine, space travel and all of that also comes from science.

But also, religion has done its fair bit to kill people as well

 

[Evening Elephant]

I'm actually a religious Muslim and I disagree with the warnings being put in textbooks. I don't like the banning of academic material and the attempt to minimize knowledge on certain topics, even if they go against one's beliefs, such as in the case of evolution. I think this demonstrates closed-minded thinking. I think it's good to know about things even if they oppose your own beliefs. Learning about another way of thinking, or as big of a thing as a major scientific theory, is still gaining knowledge and shouldn't be restricted.

As a Muslim I can say I agree with the scientific concept of evolution, the concept that things can change through a gradual process over time. The Qur'an actually supports evolution. (Read

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for more info. You don't have to read the whole thing, at least the verses it gives and some explanations) The thing it doesn't - and, of course, I don't - agree with is that all this just happened on its own. I think something had to have caused it or started it and maintained it, for it would be less orderly and more chaotic if it was just all natural without the influence of God.

Lol all you have to do is memorise this and pass and forget it if you want.
I'm religious but the only thing I have to disagree on is the evolution of human beings, the rest is all fine and plausible.

Agreed.

I have to say I do like this "warning" a lot. I'm not a very religious person and I do think that evolution sounds more... plausible? However I also do believe that there is SOMETHING bigger than us. If there is a beeing like a god, why not believe that the evolution did happen but on his/her (little nudge against gender here hehe) doing?

That's exactly the Quran and Islam's stance on it.

Ooooh I was just having a discussion about the theory of life. I explained to a friend of mine about the cosmological constant. The Cosmo constant is a math equation that marks the expansion of the universe. This constant is very precise. 10 to the 125 power precise. To put that into prospective it would be the equivilant of stacking dimes as wide as Russia and as tall as the moon and then picking a dime and placing it back and asking a friend to pick out that exact dime. If he doesn't pick the dime then life as we know it would never exist. But in the universes case the dime was picked and we are here today. This leaves 3 options on how this was possible,

Option one- we were lucky enough to pick the dime which would have been mathematically impossible
Option two- there is actually such thing as a multiverse with intimate possibilities. In other words there are an intimate number of universes that didn't pick the dime and we were the ones that did.
Option three- we were created by something that finely tuned us to work the way we do

Now to consider a creation however would go against every law of physics that has ever been made. Take for example the Big Bang. The Big Bang happened and the universe was made. Now we can't ask what happened before the Big Bang be wise there was no before the Big Bang. But Einstein states that for anything to happen there has to be a catalyst for that thing to happen in. Smoke doesn't happen without a fire. So how could the Big Bang have happened if there was nothing to cause the Big Bang. I could go on and on about this but I'm not gonna invest any more energy in this post unless I see someone is actually interested in discussing the topic

I agree on your points about the Big Bang. The Quran actually also mentions the Big Bang, which is interesting considering Islam's reputation as being heavily Creationist. Islam agrees with the Big Bang and evolution, but just doesn't agree that they were random and happened on their own. Something (or someone) caused them and had them work out the way they did.

Verses from the Qur'an:

Then He turned to the heavens when it was smoke...
[Quran 41:11]

Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them? Quran 21:30]