Tsunade: Fan-fic vs Reality

[KingHashirama]

no, thats your own skewed story.

senjutsu is a static power up.

If you had bothered reading the actual scan, and the words.. you would know what we are talking about.

The training is about using normal ninja chakra to enhance your lifting prowess vs senjutsu chakra.. Naruto focused his chakra and tried to lift the statue with him. but he couldn't. And with Senjutsu chakra he could. However, Naruto has nowhere near the control of Tsunade and Sakura.

However, that showed that ninja can use their normal chakra to enhance their body for strength.


Where is your proof on that medical ninja (even though its just tsunade and sakura) solely focus all their chakra to their heels and their knuckles? I still haven't found one yet...


Shunshin = same as increase your strength to lift something with normal chakra.


You are not understand the basic principals behind the 2 techniques........

 

[super yang]

If you had bothered reading the actual scan, and the words.. you would know what we are talking about.

The training is about using normal ninja chakra to enhance your lifting prowess vs senjutsu chakra.. Naruto focused his chakra and tried to lift the statue with him. but he couldn't. And with Senjutsu chakra he could. However, Naruto has nowhere near the control of Tsunade and Sakura.

However, that showed that ninja can use their normal chakra to enhance their body for strength.


Where is your proof on that medical ninja (even though its just tsunade and sakura) solely focus all their chakra to their heels and their knuckles? I still haven't found one yet...


Shunshin = same as increase your strength to lift something with normal chakra.


You are not understand the basic principals behind the 2 techniques........

no, he didnot ''focus'' anything. I realize its vital to your fake laws of the naruto verse, but thats not my problem

the author was showing the difference of normal physicality & chakra vs that in the enhancement senjutsu, if u read the next page.

 

[KingHashirama]

no, he didnot ''focus'' anything. I realize its vital to your fake laws of the naruto verse, but thats not my problem

the author was showing the difference in the enhancement of normal physicality & chakra vs that in senjutsu, if u read the next page.

Closed eyes = focusing his chakra to amplify his body. You claim i have fake laws.. yet your claiming stuff without any proof.. go wonder.

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The writer was showing the difference between body amplified with ninja chakra vs senjutsu chakra.......

 

[super yang]

Closed eyes = focusing his chakra to amplify his body. You claim i have fake laws.. yet your claiming stuff without any proof.. go wonder.

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The writer was showing the difference between body amplified with ninja chakra vs senjutsu chakra.......

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closed eyes = lifting a heavy object unsuccessfully, see how that works?

I could also say: closed eyes = feeling muscle pain or straining himself, see how that works?

U can't just make up things that have not been established, let alone implied.

this has nothing to do w/ chakra control & shunshin but everything to do w/ senjutsu
this was about feel & balance & senjutsu technique

 

[ninjarasengan]

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closed eyes = lifting a heavy object unsuccessfully, see how that works?

I could also say: closed eyes = feeling muscle pain or straining himself, see how that works?

U can't just make up things that have not been established, let alone implied.

this has nothing to do w/ chakra control & shunshin but everything to do w/ senjutsu
this was about feel & balance & senjutsu technique

Depends on if he was making a hand-seal in the right panel shown before the closeup of him with his eyes closed. What you said is your interpretation, it holds no more weight than the other.

 

[super yang]

Depends on if he was making a hand-seal in the right panel shown before the closeup of him with his eyes closed. What you said is your interpretation, it holds no more weight than the other.

even in if he was making a hand seal, it was a generic gesture. U can't create a law out of that.
the entire 1st page was a paralell to the next page where he inherently became stronger. he wasn't actively doing anything, either time. he just tried to pick up the weight w/ his muscular strength


narutos physical body wasn't strong enough to lift it w/ the chakra that passively flows thru him
when he balanced nature energy, his body & senses become enhanced thru a new type of chakra(his sage chakra).

he was not ''building up chakra/focusing chakra to his limbs/using chakra enhenced strength w/ his normal chakra''

it isn't ok to just ignore & pervert the context of the literature

 

[Sennin of Logic]

She has a 5 in strength in the 3rd databook, and it gives values of unenhanced attributes. She's strong. However, her full-scale strength comes from chakra enhancement. Her physical strength, while impressive, is nothing special in the face of curse mark and senjutsu users.

 

[RedRobin]

She has a 5 in strength in the 3rd databook, and it gives values of unenhanced attributes. She's strong. However, her full-scale strength comes from chakra enhancement. Her physical strength, while impressive, is nothing special in the face of curse mark and senjutsu users.

You are so full of shit.

 

[KingHashirama]

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closed eyes = lifting a heavy object unsuccessfully, see how that works?

I could also say: closed eyes = feeling muscle pain or straining himself, see how that works?

U can't just make up things that have not been established, let alone implied.

this has nothing to do w/ chakra control & shunshin but everything to do w/ senjutsu
this was about feel & balance & senjutsu technique

Yes, because he can't enhance his body to the level of how it is with senjutsu...... He also doesn't have the chakra control to enhance and focus all of his chakra to enhance a specific part.

No you'd be dumb to say that.. when the geezer toad said to USE ninja CHAKRA to lift the statue......


You keep talking about other people making up laws... yet you still haven't provided any scan where Tsunade and Sakura only gather chakra at their knucles only, and at their heels only..... Yet accuse others of stating what is shown in the manga scans with basic techniques.

 

[Amaterasu]

Tsunade has a child broke Jiraiya's bones by sending him miles away with one punch... So yh lol

 

[Sennin of Logic]

You are so full of shit.

No, clearly, if you're reading the manga not fanboying over her, this should be an obvious fact. Tsunade's best strength feat that probably doesn't involve CET is this.

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Her best feat is jumping with a summon's sword, a fraction of the size of an actual summon.

Here's what some CM user can do.

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This guy threw someone that's actually the size of a summon, and not a meager sword, which is the fraction of the weight.


Here's what SM does.

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Naruto threw a summon, which is much bigger than the sword Tunade jumped with, an immense distance away.


You are flat-out lying to yourself if you think Tsunade's base strength is comparable to this.

 

[KingHashirama]

Tsunade has a child broke Jiraiya's bones by sending him miles away with one punch... So yh lol

niceee. Sakura hasn't hit anyone like that. and she did it via a punch no? how you know she didn't use the normal chakra enhancing for the punch.

 

[Amaterasu]

niceee. Sakura hasn't hit anyone like that. and she did it via a punch no? how you know she didn't use the normal chakra enhancing for the punch.

Nobody knows, don't think she would use chakra enhancing for Jiraiya tho'

 

[super yang]

Yes, because he can't enhance his body to the level of how it is with senjutsu...... He also doesn't have the chakra control to enhance and focus all of his chakra to enhance a specific part.

''CES'' & senjutsu are not related mechanisms. senjutsu is a static power up, the medics focus chakra & release it at the end of their strikes

No you'd be dumb to say that.. when the geezer toad said to USE ninja CHAKRA to lift the statue......

again, that was in the context of differentiating between his passive strength in base vs in senjutsu.

you use chakra to breathe & walk passively, thats what fukasaku meant. Fukasaku was speaking generically

You keep talking about other people making up laws... yet you still haven't provided any scan where Tsunade and Sakura only gather chakra at their knucles only, and at their heels only..... Yet accuse others of stating what is shown in the manga scans with basic techniques.

''only'' so U admit that is what they are doing? at least U remember Tsunades finger display...

-where have they done something other than than?
-why doesnt sakura lift boulders & rip trees from the ground in combat?
-when is sakura going to lift a boss summon or take a punch from a sage/CMS user & completely absorb the impact w/ your supposed application of chakra?
-how did omois kick blow her away when her entire body/her muscles are supposedly enhanced w/ chakra?

 

[KingHashirama]

Nobody knows, don't think she would use chakra enhancing for Jiraiya tho'

it was when they were kids, so who knows.

 

[Amaterasu]

it was when they were kids, so who knows.

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[KingHashirama]

''CES'' & senjutsu are not related mechanisms. senjutsu is a static power up, the medics focus chakra & release it at the end of their strikes
again, that was in the context of differentiating between his passive strength in base vs in senjutsu.

you use chakra to breathe & walk passively, thats what fukasaku meant. Fukasaku was speaking generically



''only'' so U admit that is what they are doing?

-where have they done something other than than?
-why doesnt sakura lift boulders & rip trees from the ground in combat?
-when is sakura poing to lift a boss summon or take a punch from a sage/CMS user & completely absorb the impact w/ your supposed application of chakra?
-how did omois kick blow her away when her entire body/her muscles are supposedly enhanced w/ chakra?

Senjutsu is CES...... CES is not restricted to Sakura/Tsunade's punch.... CES is Chakra enhanced strength. How do you not understand that?

Yes in the context of diffriniating between the strength enhanced by normal chakra vs senjutsu chakra, ONLY FOR NARUTO.
@Bold, i don't even know what you are talking about.

Clearly you can't read the post correctly.

- where have they been put to do something other than that. Had Tsunade not shown the sword lifting, people would've been saying she can't lift heavy objects.. and when she did lift the sword.. yall saying its not that samething? please stop.
- hasn't had the need to...
- Hasn't had the need to...
- because her focus was on the hand........Just like SM Naruto can be tossed around also with that kick....

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yup she used chakra enhanced punch, but a limited one.

 

[super yang]

Senjutsu is CES...... CES is not restricted to Sakura/Tsunade's punch.... CES is Chakra enhanced strength. How do you not understand that?

only U can understand that. it exists only in your mind. Unbelievable...

of course it is restricted to Tsunade, she specifically created the technique.

full power Choji is far stronger than anyone but Gai in gates...why don't his attacks combined w/ his mass destroy everyone around him? because he uses his own tech & so does gai. Gai creates wind currents in the surrounding air...if everybody is using the same mechanic, why doesn't Tsunade set people on fire too?

why didn't jiraiya explode animal path w/ his punch if he is doing the same thing as Tsunade(he is way stronger than her)?

Hashirama & his memories of Terrible Toddler Tsunade...he has mokuyton, but she...
do U understand the concept of fictional characterization? it has nothing to do w/ real-world, logical consistency. all of the are different techniques in this imaginary universe, really, they are

 

[KingHashirama]

Show me where the technique called "chakra enhanced strength" was made. show me.


There is no technique in the manga called "chakra enhanced strength".

It is a phrase made by fans for enhancement of strength by usage of chakra.


Gai creates fire via chakra/swet from the gates + immense striking speed, that is enhanced by CHAKRA.

Choji in strength is weaker than Sakura and Tsunade.

 

[LuckyMan]

I feel like this whole thread was made by the OP for validation that Hashirama is stronger than Tsunade. Too bad he isn't though.