how strong they SHOULD have been

[obito uchiha the wraith]

im basically just going to say how strong most of the relevant characters SHOULD have been.

1. juubi jin madara: basically he shouldve been wrecking nauto and sasuke with them barely able to fight back and honestly his power should have been potentially planetary level destructive capabilities. no thats not an exageration think about it he has infinite chakra so a chibaku tensei could go on forever, or his ps slashes were multi mountain buster without enhancements but with a jubi boost it should be at the very least multi country busting

2. juubi jin obito: like madara he was nerfed so the good guys could have a chance. who could beat this guy if he was allowed to use kamui? thats right nobody and was also not allowed to use rinnegan strictly due to plot purposes. like madara juubi obitos power would be potentially planetary as he could kamui the whole planet as weird as that sounds but hes got the chakra to do it.

3. sasuke: in all honesty he was nerfed the worst out of all. he had senju dna, rinnegan, a jutsu from hashirama, and was also supposed to have mokuton. he didnt get to use crap really his rinnegan prowess was severely limited and wasnt even allowed to attempt mokuton. he also shouldve gotten a snake sage mode from gaining kabutos dna that also had senju dna in it the lightning susanoo shouldve been his normal susanoo not just a flying perfect susanoo. either way he should been a lot stronger than he was.

4. naruto: he shouldve been a lot weaker than he was. half of kurama, half of sages chakra, and fractions of the bijuu shouldnt put him on equal footing with juubi jins. not only that but he was on equal footings WITHOUT GOING ALL OUT he didnt actually get serious until he started fighting sasuke. to be completely honest he looked like he could beat madara and kaguya in 1v1 if he had both seals on his hands itd be a harder fight but it still looks like he could do it.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

agree but since Naruto and Sasuke are main characters it is normal to nerf stronger opponent so that they can beat him.

 

[Transcendence]

Your entire premise is completely void because you're still under the assumption that Juubi Jins have unlimited chakra, when Kaguya proved that wrong, who has far more chakra than any Juubi Jin. They're as strong as they were portrayed.

 

[Xlad]

Nauto should have far stronger just to make you hurt in the posterior. He should have used...the ball.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Whoa whoa whoa if anyone got nerfed it was freaking Kaguya, someone of her hype and status should've God negged Naruto and sasuke, even hagoromo admitted inferiority to her but they somehow stuck in there? I didn't even get that, yup juubidara was nerfed without restraint, juubito if he could use kumai like juubudara then that would be insane lol.

Sasuke actually wasn't all that nerfed, unlike Naruto he didn't have a precedent for his abilities and he had to test the waters when it came to learning his rinnegan, if sasuke knew,all the rinnegan abilities off the bat and had all them bijuu I don't know how Naruto would've won as sasuke's rinnegan capabilities would far surpass nagato's so all his path techs would be stronger, asura sasuke would be the most annoying to deal with as asura pein who isn't even the original nagato did a ton of damage not to speak of someone on sasuke's level. Naruto would be forced to fight like he was dead serious, intent to kill from the start, or he will lose. Sasuke's "nerf" is actually justifiable to be honest.

 

[Nagi]

Your entire premise is completely void because you're still under the assumption that Juubi Jins have unlimited chakra, when Kaguya proved that wrong, who has far more chakra than any Juubi Jin. They're as strong as they were portrayed.

well...they sort of do but they gotta infuse it, which take time.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Your entire premise is completely void because you're still under the assumption that Juubi Jins have unlimited chakra, when Kaguya proved that wrong, who has far more chakra than any Juubi Jin. They're as strong as they were portrayed.

actually no my premise isnt wrong because they juubi can make chakra infinitly unaided.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Whoa whoa whoa if anyone got nerfed it was freaking Kaguya, someone of her hype and status should've God negged Naruto and sasuke, even hagoromo admitted inferiority to her but they somehow stuck in there? I didn't even get that, yup juubidara was nerfed without restraint, juubito if he could use kumai like juubudara then that would be insane lol.

Sasuke actually wasn't all that nerfed, unlike Naruto he didn't have a precedent for his abilities and he had to test the waters when it came to learning his rinnegan, if sasuke knew,all the rinnegan abilities off the bat and had all them bijuu I don't know how Naruto would've won as sasuke's rinnegan capabilities would far surpass nagato's so all his path techs would be stronger, asura sasuke would be the most annoying to deal with as asura pein who isn't even the original nagato did a ton of damage not to speak of someone on sasuke's level. Naruto would be forced to fight like he was dead serious, intent to kill from the start, or he will lose. Sasuke's "nerf" is actually justifiable to be honest.

i knew i forgot someone yeah kaguya shouldve been negging btches.

 

[-Blade-]

Orochimaru got so much hype yet we never saw him fight seriously

 

[Romy9]

Your entire post is a fanfic.

 

[Xāvî1]

Orochimaru got so much hype yet we never saw him fight seriously

Well thats kinda true

 

[Da Best Ever]

Well Godara never tried to go all out as a juubi jin. He never really was hurt by them either. He was cut in half but still didn't flinch or feel any pain. Black Zetsu using will materialisation on Godara was the best thing that could happen to them. Madara never got to use his 3 rinnegan. Godara also threw jutsu at them just to distract naruto and sasuke.

Neither one of them could beat him 1 vs 1.

Kaguya was the most powerful but had no fighting strategy or experience. So that's why she lost and the fact that unlike Godara who only had to face 2 six paths chakra users she had to face 4, rsm naruto rinne sasuke dms kakashi and dms obito. If obito was never there sasuke would have died in the other dimension that he was stranded in and naruto would have lost to kaguya. Obito made the difference.


Rinne Sasuke was nerfed but by time only. Just like you said naruto had received power that enhance physical abilities which is different than what sasuke got. If he would have waited maybe another month later he could have won. He would have beaten naruto with just preta path and susano. Also be still should have won when the kyuubi went to sleep rinnegan genjutsu should have been used so that was bad writing.


Naruto wasn't nerfed at all. He was over powered physically. I think its ridiculous to have the physical boosts of the bijuu exceed the physical boosts of the juubi. Naruto was faster than all juubi jins and that's just ridiculous.