SM Naruto Or Byakugou Tsunade?

[Sennin of Logic]

Base tsunade is stronger than any naruto

"A nice dream, but dreams are meant to be broken"-Robotnik from Sonic SATAM

 

[Xlad]

Right...

 

[Conspirator.]

Naruto obviously.

 

[Icelerate]

A rusty base part one Tsunade managed to lift up a bijuu sized metal sword. Imagine what a fully rested part two Tsunade can do.

 

[KidGamer65]

Striking strength goes to Tsunade, by far. Lifting strength goes to Naruto, by far.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

A rusty base part one Tsunade managed to lift up a bijuu sized metal sword. Imagine what a fully rested part two Tsunade can do.

Lifting up kurama(Bunta can't even hold it down for long)> Lifting up a sword (Bunta handles it casually)

Yeah...

 

[Pragmatic]

Base tsunade is stronger than any naruto

When you realize Tsunade couldnt even beat Six Paths of Pain

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OT - Natural Energy AKA Senjutsu is so powerful only those with strong bodies and chakra can even attempt to reach Sage Mode. Most cannot do it. Naruto mastering Sage Mode is a huge feat and from the day he took control of the Kyuubi it has been cast aside. Never will I underestimate Naruto in Sage Mode hes a badass.

 

[FemmeFatale]

When you realize Tsunade couldnt even beat Six Paths of Pain

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OT - Natural Energy AKA Senjutsu is so powerful only those with strong bodies and chakra can even attempt to reach Sage Mode. Most cannot do it. Naruto mastering Sage Mode is a huge feat and from the day he took control of the Kyuubi it has been cast aside. Never will I underestimate Naruto in Sage Mode hes a badass.

When you realized that she was out of chakra, and just tanked a full called shira tensi in base form, while quickly pouring her byakugou chakra to katsuyu to save the villages in a matter of seconds. And If you look closely Tsunade reacted to the attack, her hand where in a defensive position, and she would've most likely smash that path.

 

[super yang]

Byakugou Tsunade has the exact same strenght as base Tsunade

 

[Zexion~]

Lml Byakugo increases strength? Since when?

Tsunade obviously beats him in actual hitting

But pretty sure Naruto lifted up Kurama?

 

[RedRobin]

Byakugou Tsunade has the exact same strenght as base Tsunade

Lml Byakugo increases strength? Since when?

Tsunade obviously beats him in actual hitting

But pretty sure Naruto lifted up Kurama?

This had been known since db4 came out.

 

[RedRobin]

Lifting up kurama(Bunta can't even hold it down for long)> Lifting up a sword (Bunta handles it casually)

Yeah...

She didnt just lift up a sword she took the sword went so high into the air Manda couldnt even see it coming.

Not to mention this was rusty Tsunade.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Tsunade .

 

[BenjerminGaye]

She didnt just lift up a sword she took the sword went so high into the air Manda couldnt even see it coming.

Not to mention this was rusty Tsunade.

Again. Bunta wields that sword casually.
While the same Bunta can't even hold down kurama. That makes picking him up (somthing sm naruto did) completely out of the question since he can't even hold him down.


This isn't a debate.

 

[Amaterasu]

I think we're all okay to say that she has the best strinking power but Naruto has the best lifting power ?

 

[RedRobin]

Again. Bunta wields that sword casually.
While the same Bunta can't even hold down kurama. That makes picking him up (somthing sm naruto did) completely out of the question since he can't even hold him down.


This isn't a debate.

I can push down on a boulder however I cannot lift it up.

Holding something down has nothing to do with lifting. Your examples make no sense. Naruto lifting Kuruma over his head to the other side. Tsunade took something and flew into the air so high that a giant serpent couldnt even see it.

And again this was rusty Tsunade.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I can push down on a boulder however I cannot lift it up.

pushing down on a boulder is much easier than lifting it up. You have your own mass and gravity assisting you. Yet despite how big Bunta is despite his incredible mass, he couldn't hold kurama down. Where as he holds his own sword with 1 hand and with ease.

Holding something down has nothing to do with lifting.

holding something down and picking something up go hand in hand.

Your examples make no sense. Naruto lifting Kuruma over his head to the other side. Tsunade took something and flew into the air so high that a giant serpent couldnt even see it.

And again this was rusty Tsunade.

again Bunta can hold that sword with 1 hand. Yet he can't do the same to kurama despite using his whole body.
Naruto picks up kurama. (Somthing Bunta can't do)
tsunade picks up bunta's sword(bunta does with ease.
You get it now?

 

[RedRobin]

pushing down on a boulder is much easier than lifting it up. You have your own mass and gravity assisting you. Yet despite how big Bunta is despite his incredible mass, he couldn't hold kurama down. Where as he holds his own sword with 1 hand and with ease.

holding something down and picking something up go hand in hand.


again Bunta can hold that sword with 1 hand. Yet he can't do the same to kurama despite using his whole body.
Naruto picks up kurama. (Somthing Bunta can't do)
tsunade picks up bunta's sword(bunta does with ease.
You get it now?

Kushina's chains hold Kuruma down but they cant lift Bunta's sword. How lifting and holding down go hand in hand for you makes no sense.

Not to mention Naruto only lifts 50% of Kuruma. Bunta held full Kuruma down for a couple of seconds.

Naruto lifts Kuruma for a second and Kuruma's weight is used against him and he falls over.

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Tsunade lifts Bunta's sword that is dug into the ground into the air and turns it around.

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What Tsunade does is much harder than what Naruto did.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kushina's chains hold Kuruma down but they cant lift Bunta's sword. How lifting and holding down go hand in hand for you makes no sense.

if she's in the right position thay probably can. Her chains act as a barrier tech and not even Hiruzen could break.

Not to mention Naruto only lifts 50% of Kuruma. Bunta held full Kuruma down for a couple of seconds.

it's mindscape. Kurama is full size when in naruto head.

Naruto lifts Kuruma for a second and Kuruma's weight is used against him and he falls over.

Kurama is much more massive and much heavier than bunta's sword.

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Tsunade lifts Bunta's sword that is dug into the ground into the air and turns it around.

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What Tsunade does is much harder than what Naruto did.

not really Since Kurama's size alone dwarfs Bunta and Bunta dwafts his sword.

Of we were to give weight values Bunta sword would be less than Bunta in weight. Whereas kurama would be more.
Kurama>bunta>his sword.

Naruto can hold kurama therefore he can hold Bunta and bunta's sword.

Heck even pa despite being smaller than Naruto was able to throw Bunta and his sword at the same damn time:

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Lifting goes to the frog sm users. Bigtime.

 

[RedRobin]

if she's in the right position thay probably can. Her chains act as a barrier tech and not even Hiruzen could break.

it's mindscape. Kurama is full size when in naruto head.

Kurama is much more massive and much heavier than bunta's sword.





not really Since Kurama's size alone dwarfs Bunta and Bunta dwafts his sword.

Of we were to give weight values Bunta sword would be less than Bunta in weight. Whereas kurama would be more.
Kurama>bunta>his sword.

Naruto can hold kurama therefore he can hold Bunta and bunta's sword.

Heck even pa despite being smaller than Naruto was able to throw Bunta and his sword at the same damn time:

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Lifting goes to the frog sm users. Bigtime.

Lol what? How are her chains lifting the sword like did you really just say that?

According to what? Its half Kuruma, why would he be 100% in Naruto's head?