Tsunade: Fan-fic vs Reality

[KingHashirama]

This thread is about solely Tsunade's "natural super strength".

Does it exist? or it doesn't exist?


Provide manga scans or anime scenes.



I don't believe she has any natural super strength. I'm against giving her something hes never displayed or has been credited to have.

 

[Gerkak]

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[KingHashirama]

You're a god forsaken moron aren't you?

And you are an idiot i assume?

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Where she used chakra enhanced strength..

Any where stated thats her natural strength?

Shes not raikage.

 

[super yang]

Byakugou is not a power-up, its a medical jutsu

 

[KingHashirama]

Byakugou is not a power-up, its a medical jutsu

never claimed it was a power up. But its a seal used for medical ninjutsu.

Sōzō Saisei is the medical jutsu.

 

[Gerkak]

Where she used chakra enhanced strength..

Any where stated thats her natural strength?

Shes not raikage.

The raikage is clearly using chakra as well, look at his lightning cloak

 

[KingHashirama]

The raikage is clearly using chakra as well, look at his lightning cloak

without it...... lol.

There is 0 way Tsunade an lift that big of a sword without using chakra control. Even the best senju in the manga doesn't have that sort of "natural strength".

 

[super yang]

There is 0 way Tsunade an lift that big of a sword without using chakra control. Even the best senju in the manga doesn't have that sort of "natural strength".

of course there is, its called senju DNA

chakra control cannot increase mechanical strength

 

[KingHashirama]

of course there is, its called senju DNA

chakra control cannot increase mechanical strength

yea it does... lol. Shunshin and etc are all result of chakra enhanced speed. High jumps are all results of chakra enhancement... Why do you think they can't use that to lift?

And no.. Hashirama doesn't have that natural strength mate.

 

[Gerkak]

without it...... lol.

There is 0 way Tsunade an lift that big of a sword without using chakra control. Even the best senju in the manga doesn't have that sort of "natural strength".

Are you referring to hashirama? If so, being the strongest senju doesn't necessarily guarantee him having the most physical strength. Kaguya is the most powerful character in the manga, nothing suggests her physical strength exceeds weaker individuals like naruto, madara, juubito or even the raikage.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

If I was Tsunade's boyfriend. I'd fear for my life because she has immense natural strength.

Edit: Which is hidden in her pillows.

 

[KingHashirama]

Are you referring to hashirama? If so, being the strongest senju doesn't necessarily guarantee him having the most physical strength. Kaguya is the most powerful character in the manga, nothing suggests her physical strength exceeds weaker individuals like naruto, madara, juubito or even the raikage.

Naruto doesn't have phyiscal strength on the level of raikage, without SM .

Thats what I'm saying, people claim she has strength because shes a senju... but she doesn't.

 

[RedRobin]

Chakra enhanced strength is not actual strength. Her natural strength is shown when she lifts Bunta's sword.

 

[Gerkak]

Naruto doesn't have phyiscal strength on the level of raikage, without SM .

Thats what I'm saying, people claim she has strength because shes a senju... but she doesn't.

You keep bringing the raikage, but without his lightning Armour, his best feats are punching through walls. The guy was easily overpowered by killer bee.

 

[super yang]

yea it does... lol. Shunshin and etc are all result of chakra enhanced speed. High jumps are all results of chakra enhancement... Why do you think they can't use that to lift?

there is no ''etc''.
shunshin is a generic ninjutsu-universal & doesn't increase strength or even speed. Its a static -skill-, like ''water-waking''.
your implication that there are varying degrees of ''universal chakra control'' for strength & speed purposes is the real ''fan-fiction''
as well, jumping thru treetops is woven into the fabric of the 'verse. it has nothing to do w/ chakra

And no.. Hashirama doesn't have that natural strength mate.

never said he did...

 

[KingHashirama]

You keep bringing the raikage, but without his lightning Armour, his best feats are punching through walls. The guy was easily overpowered by killer bee.

Killer B with Tailed beast i recall. And Lightning armor doesn't amplify his natural strength, but only increases the force of his strength.

there is no ''etc''.
shunshin is a generic ninjutsu universal & doesn't increase strength or even speed. Its a static skill, like water waking.
your implication that there are varying degrees of ''universal chakra control'' for strength & speed purposes in the real ''fan-ficction''
as well, jumping thru trees is woven into the fabric of the 'verse. it has nothing to do w/ chakra

never said he did...

Jumping through trees? O_O. you mean jumping on them and etc?

And i'm talking about the jump tsunade did, an the one sakura did, both required chakra control. And shunshin might be a generic technique, however those who are able to perfect it , gain immense speed.

Furthermore, Sakura showcased in crease of speed by simply focusing chakra on the feet.

shunshin: " It is accomplished by using chakra to temporarily vitalise the body and move at extreme speeds. "

 

[Gerkak]

Killer B with Tailed beast i recall. And Lightning armor doesn't amplify his natural strength, but only increases the force of his strength.

Not the tailed beast,

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Killer be easily overpowered him in base, while he(raikage) was in lightning armor.

It still serves as an amplifier, all mechanical action requires force, therefore the raikage's lightning aromor improves his strength.

 

[FemmeFatale]

IT doesn't matter though, it not Ninjutsu and can not be negated. It is purely taijutsu.

 

[KingHashirama]

Not the tailed beast,

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Killer be easily overpowered him in base, while he(raikage) was in lightning armor.

It still serves as an amplifier, all mechanical action requires force, therefore the raikage's lightning aromor improves his strength.

but before that Killer B was demolished by that same guy while he had hachibi tails out also. And then you have after that where the raikage easily shrugged B away. XD

Never said it doesn't serve as an amplifier, however, he has natural strength...... Tsunade doesn't. He might use the Armor to enhance himself.. but despite that his normal natural strength is still superb, compared to Tsunade, who is like any other shinobi, unless she uses chakra control.

Fans claim: Tsunade has natural strength, Sakura does not. Though Tsunade's entire prowess regarding her strength is based on chakra control.

 

[super yang]

Jumping through trees? O_O. you mean jumping on them and etc?

And i'm talking about the jump tsunade did, an the one sakura did, both required chakra control. And shunshin might be a generic technique, however those who are able to perfect it , gain immense speed.

No, they gain greater distance splits/jumps & greater stop/start time sequences onto their shunshin technique

Furthermore, Sakura showcased in crease of speed by simply focusing chakra on the feet.

increased traction maybe, but that scene was never given any foundation or consistency. The best you could say, is that she used a poor/incomplete shunshin tech/hadn't mastered it yet.

shunshin: " It is accomplished by using chakra to temporarily vitalise the body and move at extreme speeds. "

yes, but dynamically, not mechanically