Why Naruto became (the most) powerful.

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Well i just point out the fact that byakugan can stay alive until they have oportunity to strike
No they cannot


The gentle fist style is also perfect example because they dont strike by strength.
Sasuke tank has nothin to do with this fight as gentle fist is not working like that

Gentle Fist actually needs to touch the Susanoo in order to work. While Susanoo is casually wrecking mountains and shockwaves rippling through the air, how are they getting close?

Not to mention Gentle fist isn't enough to break down a full sized Susanoo. That tech works on small constructs with pinpointed chakra points. Susanoo is too much for them.

Gentle Fist also isn't working against Itachi's Susanoo Lol
 
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Well he is the main character of course so naturally he'd be stronger than everyone. I don't know any show where the main was weaker than the side characters.

Goku > Vegeta
Yugi > Kaiba
Luffy > Law
Ichigo > Uryuu
Batman > Robin

Etc etc etc.
 

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Well he is the main character of course so naturally he'd be stronger than everyone. I don't know any show where the main was weaker than the side characters.

Goku > Vegeta
Yugi > Kaiba
Luffy > Law
Ichigo > Uryuu
Batman > Robin

Etc etc etc.

Naruto = Sasuke, however you like it or not, people don't need to counter Kishi's thoughts.
 

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Well he is the main character of course so naturally he'd be stronger than everyone. I don't know any show where the main was weaker than the side characters.

Goku > Vegeta
Yugi > Kaiba
Luffy > Law
Ichigo > Uryuu
Batman > Robin

Etc etc etc.

It seems not many people read with comprehension. It's easier to label him a MC instead of trying to understand the character. None of those characters you listed have Naruto's premise nor can they be compared to him, at least not in the way this topic intends to.
 

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No they cannot




Gentle Fist actually needs to touch the Susanoo in order to work. While Susanoo is casually wrecking mountains and shockwaves rippling through the air, how are they getting close?

Not to mention Gentle fist isn't enough to break down a full sized Susanoo. That tech works on small constructs with pinpointed chakra points. Susanoo is too much for them.

Gentle Fist also isn't working against Itachi's Susanoo Lol
Well you just ignore the rest and say they cannot and gentle fist cannot touch the susanoo. When did i say he need to gentle fist susano ?
Ms user cannot maintain susanoo for long time and when susanoo deactivated, gentle fist will come in play. The rest for byakugan user is dodge and evade then just tank nessesary when needed to. Sakura vs Sasori after Chiyo fall is perfect example.
 

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Well you just ignore the rest and say they cannot and gentle fist cannot touch the susanoo. When did i say he need to gentle fist susano ?
You only brought up 3 points in your arguments which is Gentle Fist and Rotation and they can see through things all of which are negated by the sheer power of MS Techs.
The comparison itself is laughable yet I am wondering why I am debating

Ms user cannot maintain susanoo for long time and when susanoo deactivated, gentle fist will come in play.
You just dont comprehend that that limited time is enough to take them all out.Sasuke was able to take out Danzo with his multiple sharingan and Izanami and still muster up enough strength to summon a full size Susanoo against Kakashi and he had even fought the Third Raikage and the other kages without going blind till he faced Kakashi

And the 3T Sharingan already matches the Byakugan in the first place

Besides most MS users are talented Uchihas in the first place who would use the tech in a planned manner


Sakura vs Sasori after Chiyo fall is perfect example.
MS Uchihas are much faster than Sasori's puppets are
 
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The Hero of the story is Naruto so it would be illogical if someone else was made to be more powerful than Him. After all it’s a traditional story and not a new age Gothic novel.
 

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The Hero of the story is Naruto so it would be illogical if someone else was made to be more powerful than Him. After all it’s a traditional story and not a new age Gothic novel.

When you look at it like black and white, I agree. But if only the MAIN CHARACTER argument played the role here, a base Naruto would be able to beat Kaguya with a finger. The discussion is about the characteristics Naruto had that made him so powerful. Hashirama wasn't the MC but he still exhibited similar traits.

I think we can lose the MC "argument".
 

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You only brought up 3 points in your arguments which is Gentle Fist and Rotation and they can see through things all of which are negated by the sheer power of MS Techs.
The comparison itself is laughable yet I am wondering why I am debating


You just dont comprehend that that limited time is enough to take them all out.Sasuke was able to take out Danzo with his multiple sharingan and Izanami and still muster up enough strength to summon a full size Susanoo against Kakashi and he had even fought the Third Raikage and the other kages without going blind till he faced Kakashi

And the 3T Sharingan already matches the Byakugan in the first place

Besides most MS users are talented Uchihas in the first place who would use the tech in a planned manner



MS Uchihas are much faster than Sasori's puppets are

Ms uchiha is not faster than thousands sand needles..... Obito was touched by danzo underling....
This will be long battle since you dont just let the enemy kill you while you are good in dodge and evade skill.
 

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Who is stronger? Let's look at VOTE2 feats against the strongest person in the NV

Ninjutsu will work, Preta Path has it's limits Taijutsu will work considering that Sasuke needed to use a Fireball jutsu setup to even scrap Naruto with a Chidori that barely affected his body. Frog Kata is viable to counter Preta Path. [ ][ ] Naruto's avatar can perform this feat considering that it perform one of Six Path Sage Mode's ability, which is flight. [ ] There is no reason why I shouldn't believe that.

Shinra Tensei of Nagato's version got sent back forcefully with a Kn6 Naruto sending his tails on the ground, while releasing just as much power back to Nagato. We already know base RSM is more powerful than anything base Rinnegan Sasuke can do. Naruto gaining power in strength overall to stop a Shinra Tensei is just a joke now.

Considering the fact that Perfect Susano'o could not handle Kaguya's chakra arms at all.



Not to mention the fact that Sasuke only landed a hit with his Perfect Susano'o when Naruto canonically blitzed her arm off. So she dealt with a PS with only a left arm, which is pretty hilarious considering the fact that base RSM could handle her power far longer than Sasuke in one of his strongest, if not his strongest defensive technique.

Let's not even bring the fact that Naruto is the only person in the entire Naruto-Verse who reacted to Kaguya's S/T Amenominaka.

While Sasuke could do no such thing.


Did I forget to state that Naruto is the only person in the entire manga who blitzed Kaguya? Let's show Sasuke's attempts while using his S/T.


Then we see Naruto TALK to Kaguya instead of trying to land moves without her knowing like Sauske. I mean Naruto is literally talking to Kaguya, revealing his presence, and then he strikes her:
 

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lel so u trying to tell us u r a naruto itachi faptard
 

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The manga is called "Naruto"... big shocker.
 

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The manga is called "Naruto"... big shocker.

In case you can't read.

When you look at it like black and white, I agree. But if only the MAIN CHARACTER argument played the role here, a base Naruto would be able to beat Kaguya with a finger. The discussion is about the characteristics Naruto had that made him so powerful. Hashirama wasn't the MC but he still exhibited similar traits.

I think we can lose the MC "argument".
 

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At first I thought this would be that type of thread, but I'm thankfully surprised.

OT: Yeah
 

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To OP: sasuke was like that cause of his brother makes him so. No normal person under that circumstance will ever able to stand up let alone search for revenge.
 

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At first I thought this would be that type of thread, but I'm thankfully surprised.

OT: Yeah

The forum is missing a bit thoughtful threads. Too much bullshit.

Great thread OP.

Thanks.

To OP: sasuke was like that cause of his brother makes him so. No normal person under that circumstance will ever able to stand up let alone search for revenge.

Naruto and many other characters endured similar fates. Sasuke was like that primarily because of his Uchiha gene and the facth that he's Indra's transmigrant.
 

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because he was friends with tailed beasts.
 

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same bullshit from every dumb sasuke fan. Grow up kid.

Naruto became the strongest ninja because he trained hard. He trained for everything unlike other dumb characters who get skills on plate. Yeah i am talking about sasuke.

Did he train for the friendship of Biju? No.
Did he train for BM? No
Did he train for BSM? No
The only things he trained for was Shadow Clones, Rasengan, FRS, Sage Mode, and arguably KCM, everything what was handed to him.
 

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The forum is missing a bit thoughtful threads. Too much bullshit.



Thanks.



Naruto and many other characters endured similar fates. Sasuke was like that primarily because of his Uchiha gene and the facth that he's Indra's transmigrant.
Please tell me who have to watch their parent died under your brother hand and then watch the entire village die again and again within days.
Shikamaru was the smartest and calmest one, yet once his teacher got killed, he search for revenge right away. What is wrong for sasuke to think the same ?
 
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