Was Kakashi's Generation the weakest thus far in Konoha?
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Indeed. Forgot about him and Might Dai. The man taught Guy the 8 Gates and Night Moth
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"self-sacrifice… a nameless shinobi who protects peace from within its shadow…"
Consider how many elite shinobi lived and died by that concept. The best shinobi are the ones you know nothing about.
Heh, do you think that most of them (Rookie 9) know about Shisui?
You can't really take what we know - from manga or anime - and use it as a reference of strength in each generation, because every single mention is done with (limited) intent.
I wouldn't call the rest of Kakashi's graduating class "fodder" either.
Asuma was one of the Twelve Guardians, not sure if the anime matched up with the manga though, regarding his techniques, but some were pretty badass.
Kurenai seems plenty skilled, but alas she is a woman so fate (Kishi) degreed she had to get her ass back in the kitchen like a good little housewife to spawn a brat and be Shikamaru's... motivation? Purpose? Link to Asuma and all that blah blah blah. Otherwise, skilled - interesting speciality, did a good job with her team but it's a pity she got wasted on the sidelines.
Raido was (apparently) a notable assassin, along with Genma they were part of the Hokage Guard Platoon... not exactly fodder, elevated above the fodder-jonin and they don't die (has to count for something, right?)
You can't call Guy fodder either. Nor Obito considering...
Rin wouldn't have been fodder (I believe) had she survived, seemed to possess a fair amount of talent for her age in medical ninjutsu.
Most went on to become elite shinobi, high ranking and capable with areas of speciality etc. And a over half survived up until the 4th Shinobi War... not a bad achievement.
Consider how many elite shinobi lived and died by that concept. The best shinobi are the ones you know nothing about.
Heh, do you think that most of them (Rookie 9) know about Shisui?
You can't really take what we know - from manga or anime - and use it as a reference of strength in each generation, because every single mention is done with (limited) intent.
- Sakumo: Kakashi's father
- Sannin: Sensei, integral to the plot
- Minato: [see move]
- Hiruzen, Hashirama, Tobirama: Hokage, plot
I wouldn't call the rest of Kakashi's graduating class "fodder" either.
Asuma was one of the Twelve Guardians, not sure if the anime matched up with the manga though, regarding his techniques, but some were pretty badass.
Kurenai seems plenty skilled, but alas she is a woman so fate (Kishi) degreed she had to get her ass back in the kitchen like a good little housewife to spawn a brat and be Shikamaru's... motivation? Purpose? Link to Asuma and all that blah blah blah. Otherwise, skilled - interesting speciality, did a good job with her team but it's a pity she got wasted on the sidelines.
Raido was (apparently) a notable assassin, along with Genma they were part of the Hokage Guard Platoon... not exactly fodder, elevated above the fodder-jonin and they don't die (has to count for something, right?)
You can't call Guy fodder either. Nor Obito considering...
Rin wouldn't have been fodder (I believe) had she survived, seemed to possess a fair amount of talent for her age in medical ninjutsu.
Most went on to become elite shinobi, high ranking and capable with areas of speciality etc. And a over half survived up until the 4th Shinobi War... not a bad achievement.
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Proto-Sakura? Pssh. The pioneer of the cry no jutsu and rescue me no jutsu. Don't make me laugh.
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That's pretty high standards, for a Sakura-fan.
Rin had potential, don't you think?
Maybe Guy? Lol, c'mon! His fight with Madara was pretty epic - you harp on about Sakura landing one hit, yet Guy's feats register as a maybe with you?
I don't get it. Honestly, Sakura's taijutsu form is wank compared with Guy's - Guy defeated Kisame (S-rank nin), and held his own against Madara (... exceptional nin).
I feel like there's not enough love for Genma and Raido - those boys were plenty capable.
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Why bring Sakura into this, part 1 Sakura was comparable to Ron ven without the mystical Palm jutsu. Sakura talent outweighed most seeing as how she was compared to tsunade, run medical ninjutsu was cute she transplanted an eye and all but Sakura is way out of her league
Kalashi's was only special because of obito
Kunerai has potential she rivals it's hi in genjutsu according to the datebook, so she can be one.
And you tried it sweaty, gai has to reach the 8th gate to even consider rivaling sakura's base punch. And he dies afterwards.
XD
Rin was superior to Sakura (of Part I), in that she was significantly less annoying - and useful. You can't compare Sakura of Part II to Rin, somewhat unfair wouldn't you agree?
I think Rin had the potential to be a great med-nin. But it's her personality I find superior to that of Sakura, her temperment and ability to endure... she doesn't cry and wail "Kakashi-kuuuuuuuuuun!" all the time.
By enduring, I mean when she was captured she endured torment and didn't reveal their plans to the enemy.
She has the right mentality, for a shinobi - self-sacrifice. Something Sakura lacks.
Kakashi wasn't special because of Obito or his Sharingan eye. His talent and ability to use it, and the MS technique within (as stated by Itachi) was impressive.
If anything the Sharingan held him back, significantly. It drew on too much chakra, he came to rely on it and used it as a crutch - he was exceptional before getting the Sharingan, exceptional with it and (I believe) all the more without it.
Guy's taijutsu (in it's base form) is superior to Sakura's.
Guy's Eight Gates would destroy Sakura's more advanced/strongest physical attacks - because he doesn't rival her, he surpasses her by miles.
Lol I'm recalling Sasuke's fight with Lee in Part I - you can't honestly think Sakura can beat Might Guy in a fight.
... right?
Rin was superior to Sakura (of Part I), in that she was significantly less annoying - and useful. You can't compare Sakura of Part II to Rin, somewhat unfair wouldn't you agree?
I think Rin had the potential to be a great med-nin. But it's her personality I find superior to that of Sakura, her temperment and ability to endure... she doesn't cry and wail "Kakashi-kuuuuuuuuuun!" all the time.
By enduring, I mean when she was captured she endured torment and didn't reveal their plans to the enemy.
She has the right mentality, for a shinobi - self-sacrifice. Something Sakura lacks.
Kakashi wasn't special because of Obito or his Sharingan eye. His talent and ability to use it, and the MS technique within (as stated by Itachi) was impressive.
If anything the Sharingan held him back, significantly. It drew on too much chakra, he came to rely on it and used it as a crutch - he was exceptional before getting the Sharingan, exceptional with it and (I believe) all the more without it.
Guy's taijutsu (in it's base form) is superior to Sakura's.
Guy's Eight Gates would destroy Sakura's more advanced/strongest physical attacks - because he doesn't rival her, he surpasses her by miles.
Lol I'm recalling Sasuke's fight with Lee in Part I - you can't honestly think Sakura can beat Might Guy in a fight.
... right?
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It was because of sakura's personality that she was able to rival tsunade in medical ninjutsu and skill in such a sort time. Sakura has all of Rins feats barring being a jinc
Sakura have show to be resistant to Jutsu that gains Intel, with ino.
Sakura had a more complex version of the log Jutsu and Sakura has always endured and you know it, she was the one who stood up to the sound nin, gaara, and even orochimaru to save Naruto when she was equip with only academy Jutsu .
In part 2 it's self explanatory seeing as how she still fought when she was poison
Kakashi couldn't even use his powerful attack without obitos eye because the speed messed with his vision.
And Sakura base punch has able to damage kaguyas horn , with the little chakra she had left, in Byakugou mode her attacks are stronger. Gai attack broke madara horn damage madara because he hid behind limbo, if he didn't her attack would've ripped him a new one