Why do people say the tenseigan and Toneri are weak?

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@bold Not true
all u need is Senjutsu

The databook said you do.

You need senjustu to harm a JJ, not touch it's Gudodama.

Hashirama couldn't touch Madara's rods either.

Only rinnegan Sasuke and RSM naruto
 

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← Top caption says that the caster has an
unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six
Path's "ability to levitate"
(浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).
Second caption says, "Kicking a Truthseeker Orb!
Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him
perform this risky stunt!"

← Third caption says, "His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!"

I think it explains it well here, it never mentioned a need for gudodamas.

Especially when the kyuubi wasn't able to produce any for him like he did in the Sasuke fight.
 

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Hyuuga fapboys will say he is stronger.Uchiha fans will say its filler movie.Both are correct.Sharingan and Rinnegan have been around longer and are more developed than the Tenseigan which was heard off for the first time after the manga ended.Besides its the last time Hyuugas will ever be relevant,it will never be heard of again unlike Sharingan
 
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Sasuke lost his Rinnegan because he didn't use any of the paths in the Last. There is your logic.

Idiotic logic because fanboys can't win a debate, completely normal here on NB :leaf:

Edit: btw eitherway your logic is dumb because

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They obviously do not know what they're talking about.
 

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Idiotic logic because fanboys can't win a debate, completely normal here on NB :leaf:

Edit: btw eitherway your logic is dumb because

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You're the idiot, that was sarcasm. I'm telling him that anyone who says Naruto lost RSM should also believe that Sasuke lost his Rinnegan.
 

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I have no idea why, Toneri is easily top 10 with that eye.
 

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He obviously isn't weak.. .. just not as strong as BSM Naruto from the Last sans using Rikudo chakra.
 

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He obviously isn't weak.. .. just not as strong as BSM Naruto from the Last sans using Rikudo chakra.

He's probably the same tier as JJ Obito or JJ Madara, just without the skill and experience. Much like Rinnegan Sasuke/RSM Naruto when they unlocked their powers that very first day, they just tapped into their unknown potential. Same with Toneri, well, even if he were to train. I doubt he is breaching the gap when Naruto one shot him with a fist.

Lmao
 
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