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I think most opinions are converging here and pointing that Minato would have waited Indra/Ashura trans migrants to bloom. Till then he could have been Hokage himself

Minato dosen't even knew about dat Lol
 

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exactly, comparing him to the available candidates he is the strongest and the smartest.

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But a valid point has been made by others that he could have waited for Indra /Ashura trans migrants to bloom
 

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Why is Obito a contender? :leaf: Without Madara saving him he is mush under a rock. Lol

This I agree with unfortunately. People mentioning his name is Blasphemy and always mention him to throw insults at Itachi. Yes, he would be the perfect hokage as others mentioned.
 
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And ^ that dude just proved my point of Itachi fanboys taking a scan and without reading it in context, just plain out wank on it.
 

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Minato dosen't even knew about dat Lol

Doesn't it seem weird that no one knew about them (the transmigrations), but Hagoromo and BZ of all things did? :|
 

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So it makes him a late bloomer lol XD just how

Because people like Itachi and etc unlocked it early, when he unlocked the sharingan he started being on Kakashi's level who was a jounin.. and then we didn't get to see what he would do with that sharingan and how stronger he would've gotten.

Compared to his rival Kakashi (who was a bigger genius than Itachi i might add) , Obito was a late bloomer.
 

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Could have been? Easily. Hiruzen, a Hokage himself already confirmed that he had long since possessed the wisdom and intelligence to be Hokage. Since he was seven years old. By the time he was was an adult his wisdom and intelligence had only grown. This is made evident by the many shinobi who praised Itachi's intelligence among other things, as well as the statements Itachi himself would later go on to make. This being the most famous one.

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He would have had more than enough skill to become a Hokage as well. With just 3T he makes top tier shinobi look like a Genin. His skill with Genjutsu, and base Shunshin speed decides most battles before the opponent even knows it has started. Then there's still Kenjutsu, Shurikenjutsu's, Katons, and Suiton. He definitely has the power.

Depending on what you believe his illness to be, there's a chance that would not be a a factor in this situation. For example, I'm of the opinion that the illness comes with usage of the Mangekyou, so it is not a problem here. He wouldn't have obtained MS in this case after all, and therefore been healthy. Then of course, there's the fact that he was able to take care of himself well enough to survive so long with such a detrimental illness. With that in mind, Konoha doctors could likely even have cured him.

If his only competition would be Obito and Kakashi, then there is no competition at all. We can ignore Obito completely right away, the manga has already proven him to be nothing more than a subpar ninja without Hashirama's DNA, Madara's personal training, and MS. None of which he would have possessed in this scenario.

Kakashi has already made clear that he had no desire to be Hokage whatsoever. If we as assumed he did however, Itachi would likely have been selected over him. The Uchiha were considered to be powerful and elite. Itachi was elite even among the Uchiha. With the clan and Konoha still in good standing with each other, it's a fair assumption that Itachi would have been a rather popular candidate. His record is more impressive than Kakashi's despite Kakashi's own above average history.​
A 3 T Itachi isnt gonna solo the likes of Ay or Onoki. Till he is capable of that, I doubt he will be Hokage
 

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And he's a butthurt pleb. His dog dies and he'd willingly get his country blown up because he can't cope for shit.
- someone starts to complain about Itachi being hokage -


- time to kill that person's entire clan-


Don't see how thats any better.
 

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No one knew about reincarnation thing except BZ,Maddy and later obito



Both the char r definition of @sspulls
BZ is to less extent than Hagoromo

I am saying Minato could have waited if he thought nobody was powerful enough. Indra /Ashura trans migrants would have emerged later. Minato need not have known about them.
 

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Because people like Itachi and etc unlocked it early, when he unlocked the sharingan he started being on Kakashi's level who was a jounin.. and then we didn't get to see what he would do with that sharingan and how stronger he would've gotten.

Compared to his rival Kakashi (who was a bigger genius than Itachi i might add) , Obito was a late bloomer.

Obito was a Chunin
He awakaned Sharingan[normal uchia circumstances] dat drasticaly improved his performance putting him on par witha recent jounin

Thus he becomes Late bloomer :|

I am saying Minato could have waited if he thought nobody was powerful enough. Indra /Ashura trans migrants would have emerged later. Minato need not have known about them.

Why would they both have to emerged in a peacefull village
 

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Obito was a Chunin
He awakaned Sharingan[normal uchia circumstances] dat drasticaly improved his performance putting him on par witha recent jounin

Thus he becomes Late bloomer :|
late bloomer: A late bloomer is a person whose talents or capabilities are not visible to others until later than usual

Yup, drastically improved his performance in matter of minutes..
 

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A 3 T Itachi isnt gonna solo the likes of Ay or Onoki. Till he is capable of that, I doubt he will be Hokage
Tsunade isn't doing that either, yet she was Hokage. Jiraiya can't either. Yet, he was preferred over Tsunade. Just because "X' is stronger, doesn't make "Y" weak. Also, your question asked whether Itachi could beat the competition. I did my best to explain why he could, so what even the point of your reply? You already made the assumption that one of them would become Hokage.
 
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late bloomer: A late bloomer is a person whose talents or capabilities are not visible to others until later than usual

Yup, drastically improved his performance in matter of minutes..

Yes becoz of sharingan
r u going to call sasuke Late Bloomer as he awakaned sharingan against haku[for second ime] and improved drastically :leaf:
 

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Yes becoz of sharingan
r u going to call sasuke Late Bloomer as he awakaned sharingan against haku[for second ime] and improved drastically :leaf:
Sasuke was already strong without the sharingan. Obito wasn't that strong.

Out of Sasuke and Naruto.. Naruto was the late bloomer.

I'm not using the late bloomer in terms of Ashura/Indra, and how Ashura unlocked his powers as an adult/teen or w.e compared to his brother. I'm using it in Obito/Kakashi, Naruto/Sasuke.

Same logic for "late bloomer" can't be applied to everyone equally.
 
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Sasuke was already strong without the sharingan. Obito wasn't that strong.

Out of Sasuke and Naruto.. Naruto was the late bloomer.

Same logic for "late bloomer" can't be applied to everyone equally.

So he is late bloomer in ur opinion becoz certain conditions
Okay
 

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So he is late bloomer in ur opinion becoz certain conditions
Okay

yup. Itachi was already a boss around Obito's age, and so was Kakashi. Yet Obito only started becoming strong when he unlocked the sharingan.

Tsunade isn't doing that either, yet she was Hokage. Jiraiya can't either. Yet, he was preferred over Tsunade. Just because "X' is stronger, doesn't make "Y" weak. Also, your question asked whether Itachi could beat the competition. I did my best to explain why he could, so what even the point of your reply? You already made the assumption that one of them would become Hokage.

She made poison nobody in the world could counter.. and she countered other poison makers with ease... If she wanted she could've made Konoha into an elite poison country that'd wreck Kumo and etc.

And Tsunade and Jiraiya can take on Ay and onoki in a 1 vs 1..

So yea buddy.
 
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Consider a situation where Madara actually died at VOTE. So we have no Obito going mad thus no Konoha invasion and therefore no Uchiha slaughter. Could Itachi have been the fifth Hokage in this case ? The competitors would be Obito or Kakashi. They would be older than him too. However would Itachi have beat them to the throne ?
Assumption :- Obi to is not crushed by boulder

Short Answer: Yes

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We have Hiruzen drawing obvious parallels between Hokage and Itachi - reinforced by Itachi's age, Hiruzen presents Itachi as someone fits the ideal of what a Hokage should be.
Someone who isn't bound by ties to their clan but someone who can see the bigger picture. His capability to do what needed to be done (something Hiruzen stuggled with himself) and carrying out his duty.

I think from what was said Hiruzen marked him out as a potential candidate, certainly one with the capacity to rise to being Hokage and it would have (perhaps) been an ideal solution - had time allowed it - to win the Uchiha over (not even a lack of Madara/Obito would have cured them of their resentment of ill-treatment (note: Tobirama).

Itachi becomes Hiruzen's student, a show of faith between Uchiha/Village - Fugaku named his second son after the Third's father, there had to be some respect between them. He is made Hokage Candidate and who would go up against;
  • Jiraiya - who would decline if asked.
  • Tsunade - why would they choose her unless there was no one else?
  • Kakashi - would, like Jiraiya, refuse if given the chance.
  • Obito - I don't 100% believe his not dying/meeting Madara would result him being a Kage-level shinobi at this point. But for the sake of argument, he would fufill the need for a Uchiha Hokage. I don't think he would do as well as Itachi, nor be as respected as Itachi by the likes of Danzo etc.
    My head-canon would have Obito dead-dead from the rockslide *shrug*

It's important to consider the Elders, Jonin and the Fire Diamyo who have a say in who becomes Hokage. There's a process to it, after all... right?

Status of the Uchiha Clan would need to be considered also..

I suppose Sasuke could become Clan Head - would that be viable, or would it still be Itachi?

But then, if Obito hadn't of died... he wouldn't have attacked Kushina and Minato wouldn't be dead so you wouldn't need a Godaime Hokage anyway =D
 
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