Sasuke was the true underdog.

[Mikeuhsomething36]

He never mastered kyuubi... the naruto that is hokage did.

There's no such thing as "mastering" the kyuubi, if you mean kyuubi's chakra then naruto been mastered that, as noted by the kyuubi itself several times on the battlefield when naruto skillfully shared his chakra and how he could control it so easily a notion made by sasuke, and universal comprehension of all things just makes this easier, people need to stop their assumptions, Naruto been masters ktuubi chakra I have yet for someone to deny the facts of universal comprehension of all things and the battlefield quotes

 

[V h o]

How the hell did this thread change from Sasuke being the dog down under to debating who would be stronger?

I'm wondering the same thing. Either way this is good popcorn material.:xD:

 

[KingHashirama]

There's no such thing as "mastering" the kyuubi, if you mean kyuubi's chakra then naruto been mastered that, as noted by the kyuubi itself several times on the battlefield when naruto skillfully shared his chakra and how he could control it so easily a notion made by sasuke, and universal comprehension of all things just makes this easier, people need to stop their assumptions, Naruto been masters ktuubi chakra I have yet for someone to deny the facts of universal comprehension of all things and the battlefield quotes

Then Sasuke mastered the rinnegan the moment he got it I assume. But i recall you moaning about him not mastering it, to make it a excuse of Sasuke's inferiority to Naruto.

And at that point Naruto was learning.... doesn't mean he mastered it. To Master anything it requires years of work...

 

[Amaterasu]

He never mastered kyuubi... the naruto that is hokage did.

Of course, you got no proof of both of your assumptions.

 

[KingHashirama]

Of course, you got no proof of both of your assumptions.

besides the fact he only had it for 1 day.. Even an idiot who knows about fighting abilities and "mastering" something wouldn't ask for proof about that person's mastery.. once you tell them they only had it for 1 day.

 

[take it easy]

Can you quoted me correctly ?

 

[Amaterasu]

besides the fact he only had it for 1 day.. Even an idiot who knows about fighting abilities and "mastering" something wouldn't ask for proof about that person's mastery.. once you tell them they only had it for 1 day.

WHat Kyuubi ? For one day ? I bet he used BM in The Last tho'...

 

[KingHashirama]

WHat Kyuubi ? For one day ? I bet he used BM in The Last tho'...

we are talking about him up to the VOTE 2 fight.. pay attention please.

 

[Amaterasu]

we are talking about him up to the VOTE 2 fight.. pay attention please.

Sasuke had Rinnegan, and he still has it.

 

[KingHashirama]

Sasuke had Rinnegan, and he still has it.

and Naruto has Kyuubi...... so whats the point?

Both were inexperienced with their power... Sasuke is naturall weaker than Naruto.. you would know this if you paid attention to Sasuke's progression through part 1.

 

[Amaterasu]

and Naruto has Kyuubi...... so whats the point?

Both were inexperienced with their power... Sasuke is naturall weaker than Naruto.. you would know this if you paid attention to Sasuke's progression through part 1.

@Bold Dude, Naruto had Kyuubi before he met Hagoromo...

@Underlined They are equal. Sasuke is more talented than Naruto. You should know this if you had read Hagoromo's words about Ashura and Indra.

 

[Shruikan]

and Naruto has Kyuubi...... so whats the point?

Both were inexperienced with their power... Sasuke is naturall weaker than Naruto.. you would know this if you paid attention to Sasuke's progression through part 1.

No both are equal

 

[KingHashirama]

@Bold Dude, Naruto had Kyuubi before he met Hagoromo...

@Underlined They are equal. Sasuke is more talented than Naruto. You should know this if you had read Hagoromo's words about Ashura and Indra.

Sasuke had the eyes before he met Hagoromo... unlike Sasuke, Naruto doesn't magically get new techniques out of the blue hell.. he actually has to go out and learn them.. If Sasuke never used eye power before.. you might make a reasonable argument.. but hes already used to using eyes.. so no.

Sasuke is more talented? Yea, considering the fact Naruto caught up to him with a month's training.. good luck trying to convince people SAsuke is more talented.

When Sasuke can win or a tie fight against Naruto, without Naruto showing pitty let me know. I'm noticing that Sasuke fanboys are becoming desperate like Madara fanboys.

No both are equal

no they are not.

Hashirama > Madara

Ashura > Indra

Goku > Vegeta

Ichigo > Ishida

Naruto > Sasuke

There is no "equality". Main character will be stronger than the antagonist.

 

[Amaterasu]

Sasuke had the eyes before he met Hagoromo... unlike Sasuke, Naruto doesn't magically get new techniques out of the blue hell.. he actually has to go out and learn them.. If Sasuke never used eye power before.. you might make a reasonable argument.. but hes already used to using eyes.. so no.

He doesn't had Rinnegan, wtf are you saying ?

Sasuke is more talented? Yea, considering the fact Naruto caught up to him with a month's training.. good luck trying to convince people SAsuke is more talented.

Are you stupid ? Before training, sasuke was sronger than him, that's why I said he's more talented. Talent =/= Potential.

Naruto had more potential. Sasuke was more talented.

When Sasuke can win or a tie fight against Naruto, without Naruto showing pitty let me know. I'm noticing that Sasuke fanboys are becoming desperate like Madara fanboys.

What does that have to do with what I said ? He showed pity, so what ? Zzz

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Can you quoted me correctly ?

Sup, and I would but I'm on a phone at the moment so it's hard too, just look at the ones with the sigh during it

 

[KingHashirama]

He doesn't had Rinnegan, wtf are you saying ?



Are you stupid ? Before training, sasuke was sronger than him, that's why I said he's more talented. Talent =/= Potential.

Naruto had more potential. Sasuke was more talented.



What does that have to do with what I said ? He showed pity, so what ? Zzz

Never said he had the rinnegan.. i said he had the eyes.. aka Sharingan.. so he was used to using eyes for combat.

Considering Sasuke had trained for years to get to that point.. and NAruto got on his level within couple of months.. yea.. Years vs Months.. go wonder who is more talented.

Meaning your boy is inferior.... rofl. Not that hard to understand mate.


talent: natural aptitude or skill.

potential: having or showing the capacity to become or develop into something in the future


Naruto > Sasuke in talent

Naruto > Sasuke in potential



All talented people work hard.

 

[DroGGz0r]

Never said he had the rinnegan.. i said he had the eyes.. aka Sharingan.. so he was used to using eyes for combat.

Considering Sasuke had trained for years to get to that point.. and NAruto got on his level within couple of months.. yea.. Years vs Months.. go wonder who is more talented.

Meaning your boy is inferior.... rofl. Not that hard to understand mate.

I see you don't want to stop from spouting imbecilities left and right...

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Then Sasuke mastered the rinnegan the moment he got it I assume. But i recall you moaning about him not mastering it, to make it a excuse of Sasuke's inferiority to Naruto.

And at that point Naruto was learning.... doesn't mean he mastered it. To Master anything it requires years of work...

This is easier to refute then you're former posts, I provided manga facts of the kyuubi stating that sasuke had yet to master his rinnegan plus he noted that it was new so he COULD NOT absorb while attacking Naruto because it was still new, meaning sasuke didn't master it, it's basic knowledge, sasuke didn't even use all the paths nor did he seem to know as he seemed to be doing things on a whim. Manga facts be like I'm not moaning about it, just because you can't provide manga facts to support your claim don't try to bring down people that can

Once again people have yet to refute universal comprehension of all things , Naruto for obvious reasons clearly masters it, a heck of a lot more than can be said for saauke like I said pls tell me the precedents sasuke had to use his rinnegan as Naruto already mastered sage mode and he had precedents to RSM like KCM and BM, why do you bring up points I already addressed and/or defeated stop, I already provided undeniable manga facts about how Naruto mastered it all you can give are assumptions, not one manga related fact and for the record, to master something doesn't necessarily take years to learn it depends on the subject, in naruto's case he already had precedents and is known to catch up quickly, a fast growth rate stated by the KYUUBI itself during the war about the bond between him and Naruto and the way Naruto quickly adapted to his power

 

[Amaterasu]

Never said he had the rinnegan.. i said he had the eyes.. aka Sharingan.. so he was used to using eyes for combat.

This doesn't prove anything. Naruto was used to using BM and SM before Hagoromo too... :| Stop spitting nonsense already

Considering Sasuke had trained for years to get to that point.. and NAruto got on his level within couple of months.. yea.. Years vs Months.. go wonder who is more talented.

Naruto trained for months ? You forgot the moment when he trained at Shuriken Throwing fo' days ? The only images of early Sasuke training were for his Katon... As I said before Talent =/= Potential but I don't know if your retarded brain can comprehend that.

Meaning your boy is inferior.... rofl. Not that hard to understand mate.

Cool.

talent: natural aptitude or skill.

potential: having or showing the capacity to become or develop into something in the future

You deserve a medal for knowing that.

Naruto > Sasuke in talent.

If you think Kyuubi was a natural aptitude (which isn't ofc), then yes.

Naruto > Sasuke in potential

Agree.

All talented people work hard.

Ok, cool, what's your point ?

 

[take it easy]

Scans and proof ?

On what ? That chakra chains aren't KKG ?

Edit: Anyway I meant in my first post her abilities like longevity, special chakra and life force, not her jutsu.

Me:the way it does states that this statement is not true, give me scans that say he inherited ALL of kushina's abilities down to the letter, he may have gained a large amount but not 100%, you have no scans :coffee

Scans and proof that he didn't ?


Both have special chakra, strong lifeforce and longevity.

You mean like how ashura had a "lack if talent" I.e. Lack of power, also part 1 Naruto completely disregards this as Naruto was born talentless like ashura which he equated to oiwrr for obvious reasons as talented people like indra are equated to strength

Naruto wasn't born talentless unlike Ashura if you thinking about it.

Just nobody taught him correctly.

Me:You don't read do you? The last Naruto was clearly AFTER Naruto acquired the sage's yang so if course he'd be stronger I already said that in my post

Scans and proof that Hagoromo's chakra had/have influence on Naruto's base skills.

You and your fan fiction with that logic I guess sage mode isn't a power up for Naruto either and neither is bijuu susano for saauke, nice fan fiction bro, 0/10 would nit read again

I meant that in their FRS and Indra arrow clash NE wasn't power up for Naruto while bijuus chakra clearly was power up for Sasuke.

Still not a thing rebutted nice try though, didn't Naruto say that he couldn't beat sasuke the way he is which is why he didn't try to fight him after his fight with danzo but that doesn't mean he can't stop him.

In the VIZ scan he said that you can't beat Sasuke just by being strong.

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