Jutsus that blatantly defy laws of physics

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Well all jutsus defy it. But there are some jutsus which you can rationalise. For eg :- Flying. You can think that the person is using his energy or nature's energy somehow, pushing it down and counteracting his weight somehow. Shadow clones :- user divides his energy, energy takes the shape of mass and a clone can be born. So these are examples of Jutsus which somehow maybe rationalised if you think Ninjas have advanced energy manipulation abilities.

However there is a technique for which no justification exists.

Kamui :- You can snipe people to other dimensions. Energy can neither be created nor be destroyed. It only changes form. However, here matter or energy is being thrown into other dimension with no trace of Hawking's radiation. Obito's mass also does not increase.

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I'm pretty sure you can justify anything when you suspend disbelief like that.

However, I'd say that explosions not having shockwaves and spreading like relatively slow fireballs is a factual error. Also, I'm pretty sure it would be physically impossible for Onoki to slow down the meteors even if he made them lighter due to little something called momentum.
 

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I'm pretty sure you can justify anything when you suspend disbelief like that.

However, I'd say that explosions not having shockwaves and spreading like relatively slow fireballs is a factual error. Also, I'm pretty sure it would be physically impossible for Onoki to slow down the meteors even if he made them lighter due to little something called momentum.
For shockwaves I would have to think. About momentum conservation, it seems you may be right
 

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Night Guy. So much speed that it warps space? Hard to imagine. But all jutsu defies laws of physics. Shadow manipulation is maybe the strangest. It does not create a light source yet the shadows change. It's another thing that with it, you can control others' movements. This is just Naruto universe, where our laws of physics don't apply. Genjutsu in a whole cannot be rationalized, along with Dōjutsu and most of Ninjutsu. Kekkei Genkai too.
 

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For shockwaves I would have to think. About momentum conservation, it seems you may be right

Shockwaves simply don't seem to exist, and it's the same problem that you can encounter in many action movies. In reality, shockwaves can rip a person apart, rupture organs, deafen etc. In the movies, all they often do is push a character away gently. In Naruto, Deidara's explosive clone that was warped away by Kakashi was "blowing up" so slowly that they had a chance to comment upon it. And his final explosion was said to have a 10 km blast radius - in comparison, WWII era nukes had less than two kilometers, and yet they were devastating even if you don't count the nuclear fallout. However, C0 just left a neat crater - no shock waves, no tremors, no ear-ripping.

Speaking of that, I myself experienced how it feels even when weak military-grade explosives are being blown up safely (during testing) a few kilometers away - the ground shakes, and glass can break. So explosions are often nerfed in fiction - in reality, they are simply too dangerous.
 

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The more Law of Physics the jutsu breaks, the more asspulls the jutsu leads to. For example, Obito gifting Kakashi his power. So, it's obviously Kamui.
Although, all jutsus break the Laws of Physics. Choji's expansion Jutsu-creating mass? Lol
 

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Dude, walking up a damn tree defies the laws of physics. Lol
 

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All this is applying chakra and from there, everything gets complicated.
 

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Night Guy. So much speed that it warps space? Hard to imagine. But all jutsu defies laws of physics. Shadow manipulation is maybe the strangest. It does not create a light source yet the shadows change. It's another thing that with it, you can control others' movements. This is just Naruto universe, where our laws of physics don't apply. Genjutsu in a whole cannot be rationalized, along with Dōjutsu and most of Ninjutsu. Kekkei Genkai too.

My first statement was all jutsus defy physics laws. However you can rationalise some of them.

Let's take Genjutsu for example. It is supposed to screw with chakra in your brain right ? Let's say chakra is a form of energy and genjutsu techniques allow you to modify that energy . So it can be rationalised.
 

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The more Law of Physics the jutsu breaks, the more asspulls the jutsu leads to. For example, Obito gifting Kakashi his power. So, it's obviously Kamui.
Although, all jutsus break the Laws of Physics. Choji's expansion Jutsu-creating mass? Lol

Nice catch, but what about Choji's density during the expansion ? Can it be lowered ?
 

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Reminds me of Apex $#@tting on Dimirty Lol
 

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Shockwaves simply don't seem to exist, and it's the same problem that you can encounter in many action movies. In reality, shockwaves can rip a person apart, rupture organs, deafen etc. In the movies, all they often do is push a character away gently. In Naruto, Deidara's explosive clone that was warped away by Kakashi was "blowing up" so slowly that they had a chance to comment upon it. And his final explosion was said to have a 10 km blast radius - in comparison, WWII era nukes had less than two kilometers, and yet they were devastating even if you don't count the nuclear fallout. However, C0 just left a neat crater - no shock waves, no tremors, no ear-ripping.

Speaking of that, I myself experienced how it feels even when weak military-grade explosives are being blown up safely (during testing) a few kilometers away - the ground shakes, and glass can break. So explosions are often nerfed in fiction - in reality, they are simply too dangerous.
I agree with you that in military explosions, shockwaves exist. And these are not justified to the scale in Naruto Verses's attacks. However, here I am asking you the actual attacks or jutsus for which there is no possible explanation , not a side effect of juts us.
 

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Night Guy. So much speed that it warps space? Hard to imagine. But all jutsu defies laws of physics. Shadow manipulation is maybe the strangest. It does not create a light source yet the shadows change. It's another thing that with it, you can control others' movements. This is just Naruto universe, where our laws of physics don't apply. Genjutsu in a whole cannot be rationalized, along with Dōjutsu and most of Ninjutsu. Kekkei Genkai too.

He warped the space, not space.

He created a quantum fluctuation; a focus of energy to a single point, it's the same concept used to create Hirudora and Evening Elephant but different in that the gathered energy forms a constant vacuum inwards which is bolstered by maintained speed, where Hirudora and EE use the energy as a quick blast outwards. If Gai had warped space around himself, he would have been ripped to shreds.

The difference is in the kanji; "空間" is used to describe Night Guy's effects and that describes a physical air space, where 時空 describes space in that ​sense.

The more Law of Physics the jutsu breaks, the more asspulls the jutsu leads to. For example, Obito gifting Kakashi his power. So, it's obviously Kamui.
Although, all jutsus break the Laws of Physics. Choji's expansion Jutsu-creating mass? Lol

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Let me give you a hint from future :
Everything that exist within your mind can be created by advanced technology. Just because our knowlegde is limited at the current timeline doesnt mean we can not advance it further.
 

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It's Kishi's world so our laws of physics don't apply to it.
 

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He warped the space, not space.

He created a quantum fluctuation; a focus of energy to a single point, it's the same concept used to create Hirudora and Evening Elephant but different in that the gathered energy forms a constant vacuum inwards which is bolstered by maintained speed, where Hirudora and EE use the energy as a quick blast outwards. If Gai had warped space around himself, he would have been ripped to shreds.

The difference is in the kanji; "空間" is used to describe Night Guy's effects and that describes a physical air space, where 時空 describes space in that ​sense.



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Well done on explaining Night Guy. I had to Google that theory. Nice

Life is subjective and even Science has not explained spirit and stuff. So l give Kishi some leeway on that.
 

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I agree with you that in military explosions, shockwaves exist. And these are not justified to the scale in Naruto Verses's attacks. However, here I am asking you the actual attacks or jutsus for which there is no possible explanation , not a side effect of juts us.

Well, yeah, that still depends on how much you suspend disbelief. To me, I just could never consider those explosions to be explosions, despite them being referred to as such, since they don't have the necessary effects.

Again, it's very subjective what can be justified and what can't, especially in a fantasy setting. I was rambling about what bothers me, since that's basic stuff - those are supposed to be explosions, yet they don't seem like ones, and that breaks the suspension of disbelief to me.

I know it's not quite what you mean, but I have my own way of thinking when it comes to measuring acceptable breaks from reality.
 
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