so naruto really was = to sasuke

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Im studying to become a psychologist and we are currently reading filosofi. The thing is that sasuke is talking about hes ideal, and not the one who is strongest or weakest. When he said "i lost" he didnt mean, that he lost physical. Hes ideal lost to narutos.
 

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Lel Nardo fapboys. Fine I'll bite the bait. Rinnegan Sasuke indeed >>>>> RSM Naruto. RSM Naruto is only achieved by using the bijuus power in conjunction. That's a simple reason why Naruto didn't use it in the Last. The Rinnegan has the power to control the bijuu therefore essientially a power Sasuke has. Naruto didn't match Sasuke with just Kurama despite what these fapboys keep spewing.

Naruto had bits of the bijuu already residing in him when he fought Sasuke. Therefore Naruto already had the 9 bijuu just like Sasuke did.
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Naruto matched indras arrow using nature energy and the opposite affinity. NOT Raw Power.



Inb4 exhausted Naruto. Sasuke was also exhausted from fighting Kaguya and in the war arc. If Sasuke still had complete control of his rinnegan Naruto would have been finished.
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Nardo fapboys always needing an excuse. Sasuke is so stronger than Naruto if you strip both of them from bijuu power. The rinnegan gives Sasuke control of bijuus for a reasons. fapboys need to deal with it.

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I won't even dwell into the fact Naruto can't hold a candle to sasuke without bijuu power. they'll probably start making excuses why it's more of Narutos power than Sasukes even though his rinnegan gives him complete control. rofl

Just to put out incoming flames chidori+enton is a great counter for any wind style moves Naruto might use. If he had achieved it earlier without a prior nerf Naruto would be dead.
 

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They're equal. People were all saying how Naruto was stronger, yet when they actually fight, it ends in a draw.

Still, I think Sasuke would win if it wasn't written by Kishi.
 

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everyone who thinks they're equal needs to slap themselves with a chair.
adult Naruto would clown every version of Sasuke​
 
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Hokage Naruto>timeskip Sasuke. First off, there's no reason to believe Sasuke increased chakra potency. He destroyed meteor the size of hokage mountain, but an imperfect SM Sage art: massive ransengan could hollow out a mountain. For Sasuke, who had far, far greater chakra, it'd be ridiculous if war arc Sasuke couldn't do that with the chidori.


Second, Sasuke no longer has the bijus. (actually, he could probably summon them like Madara, but Kurama and the 8 tails are confirmed unavailable being in jinchurikis, making biju PS much weaker) So, Sasuke's power is weaker than VOTE2 in exchange for more mastery over the rinnegan, which probably can't close that gap completely. In contrast, Naruto got another half of Kurama, meaning his capacity for natural energy for Ashura Avatar just doubled. No way Sasuke can beat hokage Naruto.


And no, Naruto did not loose RSM. There are only 2 reasons to believe so.

A. It's a temporary power up: If Rikkudo chakra was a temporary power up, why does Sasuke have Rikkudo chakra? (meteor-destroying chidori) Naruto also displays things in the film indicative of Rikkudo chakra, such as flying and reaching into Hinata to yank out a chakra sphere.

B. He lost the bijus: This makes no sense at all, as I've established in one of my threads.


Adult Naruto>Adult Sasuke period.


He said that to reflect he that that he realised his plan was evil and realised Naruto's way was better.He lost in that he failed in succeeding in his evil ways

He didnt lose the fight.How can Naruto win when both are lying immobilised Lol

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This is a win
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This is a draw
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Its not my fault you dont understand metaphors and take things too literally

Leave it to the Sasuke fanboy to only post Sasuke's victories. If the kid fight counted, so does this.

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If VOTE1 counted as a victory for Sasuke, then VOTE2 certainly counts as a victory for Naruto. In VOTE1, Naruto had every bit as much opportunity to do as much damage to Sasuke as Sasuke did to Naruto. However, Naruto chose to make a symbolistic gesture instead(scratching the headband). In reality, the fight was brought to a state where it was a stalemate, but Naruto allowed Sasuke the victory instead of letting it end with both of them being hurt. Kind of hypocritical that you chalk up such an event as a victory for Sasuke, but do not chalk up a surrender as a victory for Naruto. Sasuke surrendered. He gave up. Therefore, he lost. Deal with it.


Also, early part 2 did not receive a conclusive end fight wise. Sure, we know that Sasuke would win, but Sasuke didn't incapacitate Naruto did he? This was also weakened Naruto BTW. Sasuke was stronger at the time, but if we counted every time it's implied that one's stronger than another, there'd be more victories for Naruto.

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Hokage Naruto>timeskip Sasuke. First off, there's no reason to believe Sasuke increased chakra potency. He destroyed meteor the size of hokage mountain, but an imperfect SM Sage art: massive ransengan could hollow out a mountain. For Sasuke, who had far, far greater chakra, it'd be ridiculous if war arc Sasuke couldn't do that with the chidori.


Second, Sasuke no longer has the bijus. (actually, he could probably summon them like Madara, but Kurama and the 8 tails are confirmed unavailable being in jinchurikis, making biju PS much weaker) So, Sasuke's power is weaker than VOTE2 in exchange for more mastery over the rinnegan, which probably can't close that gap completely. In contrast, Naruto got another half of Kurama, meaning his capacity for natural energy for Ashura Avatar just doubled. No way Sasuke can beat hokage Naruto.


And no, Naruto did not loose RSM. There are only 2 reasons to believe so.

A. It's a temporary power up: If Rikkudo chakra was a temporary power up, why does Sasuke have Rikkudo chakra? (meteor-destroying chidori) Naruto also displays things in the film indicative of Rikkudo chakra, such as flying and reaching into Hinata to yank out a chakra sphere.

B. He lost the bijus: This makes no sense at all, as I've established in one of my threads.


Adult Naruto>Adult Sasuke period.
So much fail and bias is there any reason for anyone to continue reading after the bold. Sasuke didn't increase his chakra potency even after obtaining a sage boost/ destroyed a meteor/ being a descendant of indra the most naturally gifted. The bias is real.

SM Naruto can hollow out a mountain now? Scans of the featless nonsense. there are none next.

Baseless assumptions. Sasuke can still summon the rest of the tailedbeasts and it's not like he used 100 % of the tailedbeast chakra. I read up on your thread and you theres no proof they realeased IT without it. How would Naruto utilize tailedbeast chakra without them being present. Sasuke freed the bijuus from his control is more plausible. Also you fail to realize if Sasuke controls the rest of the bijuu Naruto will also be at a disadvantage seeing as he needed parts of them to match Sasukes power as well.

You wouldn't know what new powers Naruto or Sasuke obtained to say how they would really fair in a match as Adults. However we do now Sasuke isn't tied to a desk and can train whenever he wants unlike Naruto. I don't think Naruto lost his RSM that's just dum but he needs to assemble the 9 bijuu to activate it. I think that much is apparent since it runs on bijuu chakra.
 

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RSM naruto=rinnegan sasuke........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ + nine bijuus
 

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For Dantee and other Sasuke boyzzzzz...

who still bellieve that Naruto need TB chakra for using RSM
Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.
And as we know Sasuke said first "I need the Bijuus"
 

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Lol I swear this thread was made two days ago with a different name..

Problem is for some reason the naruto fans constant try to force there way of thinking onto the Sasuke fans.. Then we disagree we are ask "how can sasuke deal with the omega sage fuuton lava heat seking resengan.. Then when we give more then one option, they go into this history of what another person couldn't do so we are supposed to believe that sasuke can't do it as well.. If you don't like our answer than just agree to disagree because it's obvious by now our minds are not going to change.. Good day
 

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Hokage Naruto>timeskip Sasuke. First off, there's no reason to believe Sasuke increased chakra potency. He destroyed meteor the size of hokage mountain, but an imperfect SM Sage art: massive ransengan could hollow out a mountain. For Sasuke, who had far, far greater chakra, it'd be ridiculous if war arc Sasuke couldn't do that with the chidori.


Second, Sasuke no longer has the bijus. (actually, he could probably summon them like Madara, but Kurama and the 8 tails are confirmed unavailable being in jinchurikis, making biju PS much weaker) So, Sasuke's power is weaker than VOTE2 in exchange for more mastery over the rinnegan, which probably can't close that gap completely. In contrast, Naruto got another half of Kurama, meaning his capacity for natural energy for Ashura Avatar just doubled. No way Sasuke can beat hokage Naruto.


And no, Naruto did not loose RSM. There are only 2 reasons to believe so.

A. It's a temporary power up: If Rikkudo chakra was a temporary power up, why does Sasuke have Rikkudo chakra? (meteor-destroying chidori) Naruto also displays things in the film indicative of Rikkudo chakra, such as flying and reaching into Hinata to yank out a chakra sphere.

B. He lost the bijus: This makes no sense at all, as I've established in one of my threads.


Adult Naruto>Adult Sasuke period.





Leave it to the Sasuke fanboy to only post Sasuke's victories. If the kid fight counted, so does this.

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If VOTE1 counted as a victory for Sasuke, then VOTE2 certainly counts as a victory for Naruto. In VOTE1, Naruto had every bit as much opportunity to do as much damage to Sasuke as Sasuke did to Naruto. However, Naruto chose to make a symbolistic gesture instead(scratching the headband). In reality, the fight was brought to a state where it was a stalemate, but Naruto allowed Sasuke the victory instead of letting it end with both of them being hurt. Kind of hypocritical that you chalk up such an event as a victory for Sasuke, but do not chalk up a surrender as a victory for Naruto. Sasuke surrendered. He gave up. Therefore, he lost. Deal with it.


Also, early part 2 did not receive a conclusive end fight wise. Sure, we know that Sasuke would win, but Sasuke didn't incapacitate Naruto did he? This was also weakened Naruto BTW. Sasuke was stronger at the time, but if we counted every time it's implied that one's stronger than another, there'd be more victories for Naruto.

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I disagree.

Sasuke has a lot more to master than Naruto does. I say that because Naruto didn't have to use the power ups himself, the Bijuu did it for him. We can see this when Naruto was able to apply the Bijuus chakra to his most complex technique immediately. It would be just like BM mode, there's really no reason to believe it would somehow get stronger unless his chakra got stronger. Plus, Naruto is not one to have a complicated fighting style, he sticks to what he knows.

Sasuke, on the other hand, still hadn't mastered the Rinnegan and couldn't use half his techniques. Using Preta more would have changed the battle alone. As well, he never used the whole of the Bijuu chakra, and you can see this when he fires the Indra arrow and there's still chakra inside the Susano'o, so not having the 8 or 9 tails wouldn't matter too much, all he would have to do is absorb more chakra.

Naruto already got all of the NE in the world, there's no more to get.

Sasuke walked off, that's why he won. Naruto was in the same state as Sasuke.
 
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