so naruto really was = to sasuke

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current naruto doesnt have rsm and sasuke probably mastered all the rinnegan abilities mightve even learned mokuton and the rest of the sharingan powers.

who told you that naruto lost RSM? Any manga reference?

Sasuke is the one who lost his Rinnegan:


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He said that to reflect he that that he realised his plan was evil and realised Naruto's way was better.He lost in that he failed in succeeding in his evil ways

He didnt lose the fight.How can Naruto win when both are lying immobilised Lol

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Its not my fault you dont understand metaphors and take things too literally

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He said that to reflect he that that he realised his plan was evil and realised Naruto's way was better.He lost in that he failed in succeeding in his evil ways

Also Sasuke admit that he was weaker than Naruto physically.



He didnt lose the fight.How can Naruto win when both are lying immobilised Lol

Naruto has Uzumaki lifeforce which can both endure and survive most grievous injuries





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Its not my fault you dont understand metaphors and take things too literally

And again, it can't be a draw if one side official said "I lost".
 

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Wow. People are still trying to claim Naruto doesn't have RSM because he didn't need to use it in The Last. If I go by those standards than Sasuke has lost all of his rinnegan jutsu because he didn't use single rinnegan jutsu during the movie just like Naruto didn't use any RSM jutsu. In fact since Sasuke didn't even attempt to face or try to stop Toneri (someone who threatened to destroy the world) than that proves Sasuke has lost all his jutsu except for his chidori. Why, because if Sasuke still had his power from the war he would have at least tried to stop Toneri.

Yes, that sounds stupid and it should. But, unfortunately so many have been saying the same about Naruto since the movie was released because he doesn't use RSM.

Like I said Not using the RSM is not evidence of losing RSM.

That's not why people claim it. They do so because Naruto was in serious danger in the movie and so were others. And yet he just "played around"? Don't worry, I think he still has RSM, but the reason you named is not the reason why people say it. Some even came up with not half bad theories on why he could've lost it.
 

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Also Sasuke admit that he was weaker than Naruto physically.





Naruto has Uzumaki lifeforce which can both endure and survive most grievous injuries

@blue What does this have to do with who won the fight?Sasuke still beat Naruto thrice and drew the last

@bold Irrelevant.Naruto admitted he was completely unable to move and that was after they slept until morning.
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Besides the fight had ended.No one waits that long for a fight to continue

And again, it can't be a draw if one side official said "I lost".

Nope.As I said it was a metaphor.Thats like saying that when Sasuke said he wanted to restore his clan he wanted to repopulate it when he wanted to make it honourable
The only way I will admit Naruto won is for Sasuke to lie on the ground at his feet with him standing and in good health
 

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That's not why people claim it. They do so because Naruto was in serious danger in the movie and so were others. And yet he just "played around"? Don't worry, I think he still has RSM, but the reason you named is not the reason why people say it. Some even came up with not half bad theories on why he could've lost it.

They might have a point if it wasn't for the fact Naruto had opportunities to use his stronger modes when he face Toneri, yet chose not to. IE: When Naruto first entered Toneri's castle to rescue Hinata he activated SM. He used it to locate Toneri and Hinata. When he reached their location and faced Toneri he was not longer in SM. He didn't reactive SM or use KM. He faced Toneri in base mode. That's proof showing us Naruto was never going all out in the movie and was never pushed to his limit.

PS: The main reason is they are hating on Naruto and downing playing is powers so they can say Sasuke is stronger.
 

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They might have a point if it wasn't for the fact Naruto had opportunities to use his stronger modes when he face Toneri, yet chose not to. IE: When Naruto first entered Toneri's castle to rescue Hinata he activated SM. He used it to locate Toneri and Hinata. When he reached their location and faced Toneri he was not longer in SM. He didn't reactive SM or use KM. He faced Toneri in base mode. That's proof showing us Naruto was never going all out in the movie and was never pushed to his limit.

PS: The main reason is they are hating on Naruto and downing playing is powers so they can say Sasuke is stronger.

The only reason they didnt use RSM IMO was because when this movie was in production,Naruto didnt have that powerup and it would be a pain in the *** to remodel the entire fight with him using his RSM technique.Sasuke was only shown for like a minute or so and he didnt use any tech so it was easy to show him with Rinnegan
 
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Naruto and Sasuke are best of buds, no point in arguing who's stronger when in the end they were both meant to be equals.
 

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Nice fan fics as always.
Naruto summon 1 billion clones per days to train. Lets say now 2 of his clones = 1 day exercise. After 1 year he got trillion years of experience ahead while your fav is still lurking around in darkness....
 

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@blue What does this have to do with who won the fight?Sasuke still beat Naruto thrice and drew the last

@bold Irrelevant.Naruto admitted he was completely unable to move and that was after they slept until morning.
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Besides the fight had ended.No one waits that long for a fight to continue



Nope.As I said it was a metaphor.Thats like saying that when Sasuke said he wanted to restore his clan he wanted to repopulate it when he wanted to make it honourable
The only way I will admit Naruto won is for Sasuke to lie on the ground at his feet with him standing and in good health

You need to understand the type of battle Naruto and Sasuke was engaged in. They were fighting 2 different battles. Sasuke was fighting a physical battle. He goal was simple, kill Naruto. He lost that battle and he failed. He even stated he lost.

Naruto was fighting a mental battle. His goal was to change Sasuke's thought process. That's a very difficult battle compared to Sasuke's battle because it limits Naruto. He couldn't kill Sasuke or that would have been a lost. Naruto understood that just physically beating Sasuke wouldn't mean an automatic victory. He could only win if he changed Sasuke's mental state. Naruto won.
 
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The only reason they didnt use RSM IMO was because when this movie was in production,Naruto didnt have that powerup and it would be a pain in the *** to remodel the entire fight with him using his RSM technique.Sasuke was only shown for like a minute or so and he didnt use any tech so it was easy to show him with Rinnegan

I still believe Kishi didn't have Naruto use RSM because he is changing Naruto by making him more like is father. 4th was a ninja that used the bare minimal about of power in battle. That's how he's changing Naruto. Like I said Naruto had opportunities to use his stronger modes when he face Toneri, yet chose not to. That's not the only thing. There were several jutsu he didn't use during the movie. IE: no frog fu, beast ball or chakra claw. Those were main jutsu he used during the war.

Naruto's The Last improvements/new feats:

- Base mode Naruto can create a FRS with one hand, throw it, and control it's trajectory (anything Naruto can do in his base mode can be done in his other modes)

- Rasengan blast (that's the new Rasengan he used at the end of the movie. It shoots out like a blast of energy, similar to how the beast ball can be shot out in a wave form)

- Improvement in speed (base mode Naruto blitz an enemy while attacking him head first and he has learned how to fighting continuously at high speed)

- Improvement in strength (Naruto defeat Toneri with a punch and that attack had so much force and power it completely destroyed the ground underneath Naruto, similar to how 8th gate Gai destroyed the ground when he attacked Madara. But difference was Gai's attack was directed towards the ground while Naruto's attack was parallel with the ground) to

- Improvement in taijutsu/agility (base mode Naruto kicked ass in taijutsu throughout the entire movie. He easily defeat puppets and Toneri using taijutsu)

- Naruto can release the 9 tails from his body and the 9 tails can use chakra mode

- Naruto can fly without needing to be in RSM

- Partial chakra mode (Naruto can now gather 9 tails chakra just around a specific body part IE: his arm)

- Chakra shield (the jutsu Naruto used to block Toneri's strongest attack at the end of their battle. Naruto focus chakra on his hand to create a shield)

- Unknown jutsu he used to remove the chakra ball from Hinata (it appears to be yin-yang based since he was able to remove the charka ball from Hinata without injuring her)

During the Kakashi novel, before Naruto get his new arm, he learned how to preform hand seals with 1 hand.

As you can see from those improvement Kishi is putting more focus on Naruto's base mode.
 

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@blue What does this have to do with who won the fight?Sasuke still beat Naruto thrice and drew the last

Don't be arrogant than Sasuke himself.

He admitted himself that Naruto was better and stronger than him.

@bold Irrelevant.Naruto admitted he was completely unable to move and that was after they slept until morning
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And also Naruto said that he was ready to fight.

The only way I will admit Naruto won is for Sasuke to lie on the ground at his feet with him standing and in good health

You can or can't admit it, but your fav did it.
 

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You need to understand the type of battle Naruto and Sasuke was engaged in. They were fighting 2 different battles. Sasuke was fighting a physical battle. He goal was simple, kill Naruto. He lost that battle and he failed. He even stated he lost.

Naruto was fighting a mental battle. His goal was to change Sasuke's thought process. That's a very difficult battle compared to Sasuke's battle because it limits Naruto. He couldn't kill Sasuke or that would have been a lost. Naruto understood that just physically beating Sasuke wouldn't mean an automatic victory. He couldn't only win if he changed Sasuke's mental state. Naruto won.

Just because he was fighting a mental battle doesnt mean he didnt go all out.He needed to use all the NE in the valley as well as all the limited chakra of all the tailed beasts which Naruto had in himself along with Kurama's chakra.
His moves had the ferocity of killing intent to them as Sasuke said
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The fight was a draw.Naruto only won in redeeming Sasuke

Don't be arrogant than Sasuke himself.

He admitted himself that Naruto was better and stronger than him.
No he did not.Not when it comes to battle.I fail to see how it changes the battle facts



And also Naruto said that he was ready to fight.
He said he was unable to move.That was just tough talk.He also later said there are no winners or losers in this fight.He cant fight when he cant move.Its that simple



You can or can't admit it, but your fav did it.

Which he meant metaphorically and I agree
 
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RSM Naruto >> Rinnegan Sasuke - VOTE2

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RSM Naruto > Rinnegan Sasuke
 

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Rinnegan Sauce >
 
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Yeah.

RSM Naruto > Any version of Sasuke

but

your fan fic Hokage Naruto who dreams of four-some's > Kishimoto > Kaguya > JJ Madara > NV
 
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