Base Hashirama vs EMS Sasuke

[KidGamer65]

So let me ask you this question. If Madara standing Susanoo was inhanced by a cloak and Jugo CM it would be able to slice up mountains like his Ps? ​

If we assume it effects him the same exact way it affects Sasuke, then yes. It would.

 

[TRE MERCER]

i dont see why not, it will at te very least cut that same branch of the shinju

There is no way in hell a Kurama cloak increases an ability by that much of a margin.​

 

[KidGamer65]

There is no way in hell a Kurama cloak increases an ability by that much of a margin.​

Lol. When you can actually provide a real counter argument to anything that was said in this thread, instead of just asking questions, and replying with the above when you don't like the answer, then we can talk about your opinion. Until then, you don't have an argument, so I have no reason to believe differently.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Lol. When you can actually provide a real counter argument to anything that was said in this thread, instead of just asking questions, and replying with the above when you don't like the answer, then we can talk about your opinion. Until then, you don't have an argument, so I have no reason to believe differently.

I don't even remember what i was suppose to be countering all i know is Sasuke win extreme high difficulty.​

 

[ARGUS]

There is no way in hell a Kurama cloak increases an ability by that much of a margin.​

Yet it did for sasuke and made his V3 into PS level so it obviously does increase
Then there is the known fact where yang kurama chakra increases the power of the jutsu by 3x
Add The other yin and it's another 3x

 

[Icelerate]

Like I've said literally every time. You and YounqDebater (Wonder why it's always the same people ) take posts from half a year ago or more, (Like the official debate we had, which even then backfires since you don't know what you are talking about) without taking into account that new shit happens in the manga, and people form new opinions as they debate with others. The only time you caught me "contradicting" myself was when I said Raikage took zero damage, but even then I didn't really contradict myself in a different thread since later on in the same thread, I ended up saying that Raikage took negligible damage on the 3rd page after I went back and forth a few posts with YD, something that was ignored when you guys tried to "expose" me. Lol.

I wonder why you didn't include me in that statement?

OT: Hashirama high difficulty.

 

[Unorthodox]

failed to directly counter the scaling argument.
You've failed to counter the argument though. Rikudo PS=Rikudo BM avatar. Subtract the Rikudo boost (Half of Hagoromo's chakra each), and you get PS=BM Avatar, just how Sasuke's Susanoo was.

Ill just counter this since everything else you were flawlessly owned in.

Reasons why the rikudou scaling is not correct. Because 2 avatars of the same magnitude displayed even power (Perfect susanoo & The Avatar) Yet two jutsu witch are not comparable in any way Chidori and a bijuu dama matched each other

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now since we have no proper way to scale a ems sasuke using ps with chidori we can scale it with rasengan witch has always shown to be chidori's equal if what you said was true His susanoo was a tie with the kurama avatar meaning the jutsu that were equal before Perfect susanoo and the bm avatar went up would atleast in the same tier. This is the power of a BM avatar using Rasengan

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witch is tiers below an average Bijuu dama witch has always been a Naruto's kurama avatar strongest explosive or attack in general look at at aoe of a standard Bijuu dama compared to a bijuu. To also thats a giant rasengan used by both Minato and naruto with senjutsu in it giant rasengan alone >>>>>>> chidori.

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So this is why that subtract Hagoromo chakra arguments makes no since. more examples

Bijuu dama >>>>>>>>>>Kirin >>>>>>>>>>Chidori yet chidori used in ps = a bijuu dama used with the kurama avatar nope that does not add up. another example we've seen Sasuke chidori even with Hags senjutsu does very little to the body

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also Even at the end of the VOTE fight Rasengan matched chidori + Amaterasu further showing rasengan still > = chidori when used in their base.

Also sasuke chidori barely did anything to his body yet a FRS varient split his hole body + God tree and Bijuu dama > FRS aswell.

I think we can say i shitted on that logic.

Because you had the last post means you won? Lmao outta here. No wasting my time with that nonsense fan fiction.

No because you resorted to insults instead of countering my post

 

[KidGamer65]

Ill just counter this since everything else you were flawlessly owned in.

Reasons why the rikudou scaling is not correct. Because 2 avatars of the same magnitude displayed even power (Perfect susanoo & The Avatar) Yet two jutsu witch are not comparable in any way Chidori and a bijuu dama matched each other

Wrong. All that means is that Chidori on the scale of PS=Bijuu Dama. Lol.

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now since we have no proper way to scale a ems sasuke using ps with chidori we can scale it with rasengan witch has always shown to be chidori's equal if what you said was true His susanoo was a tie with the kurama avatar meaning the jutsu that were equal before Perfect susanoo and the bm avatar went up would atleast in the same tier. This is the power of a BM avatar using Rasengan

Yes, we do know how to scale EMS Sasuke using chidori with PS.

Rikudo PS using Chidori=Rikudo BM using standard Bijuu Dama.

Subtract rikudo Power.

PS using chidori=BM using standard Bijuu Dama.

PS Chidori=Bijuu Dama (Regular)

Your argument fails because:

1. You assumed PS Chidori can't equal Bijuu Dama based on nothing but your opinion.

2. You assumed we can't scale EMS Sasuke using Chidori with PS, even though we can.

All you've proven is that Chidori gets much stronger as opposed to Rasengan when used through their respective Avatars.

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witch is tiers below an average Bijuu dama witch has always been a Naruto's kurama avatar strongest explosive or attack in general look at at aoe of a standard Bijuu dama compared to a bijuu. To also thats a giant rasengan used by both Minato and naruto with senjutsu in it giant rasengan alone >>>>>>> chidori.

Except this all goes to shit because you assumed that PS using Chidori=BM using Rasengan, even though it was shown that PS Chidori equals Bijuu dama, not Rasengan. Nice try though. Your comparison only works if he forego common sense and manga feats.

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So this is why that subtract Hagoromo chakra arguments makes no since. more examples

Bijuu dama >>>>>>>>>>Kirin >>>>>>>>>>Chidori yet chidori used in ps = a bijuu dama used with the kurama avatar nope that does not add up. another example we've seen Sasuke chidori even with Hags senjutsu does very little to the body

Uh....do you think that what you think matters? That is exactly what was shown, so going on about how "it doesn't add up" while not having any real evidence to support it doesn't make your argument any better than it was. It makes it worse, cause it shows you can't refute the comparison.

Sasuke's Chidori? Don't care. We are talking about Sasuke's PS Chidori.

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also Even at the end of the VOTE fight Rasengan matched chidori + Amaterasu further showing rasengan still > = chidori when used in their base.

Irrelevant. PS Chidori has shown to equal Bijuu Dama.

Also sasuke chidori barely did anything to his body yet a FRS varient split his hole body + God tree and Bijuu dama > FRS aswell.

Irrelevant. PS Chidori has shown to equal Bijuu Dama. Then there's the fact that Sasuke used that to paralyze, not to pierce, unless you want to argue that Chidori Katana>>Chidori despite it canonically being the other way around.

But once again, not relevant.

I think we can say i shitted on that logic.

No, your logic was terrible from start to finish. Lol. You can't prove that Rasengan used by the BM Avatar=PS Chidori. While I can prove that PS Chidori=Bijuu Dama. If we used your logic, then PS Chidori never should've equaled Bijuu Dama, but it did. Unless you can prove that Naruto and Sasuke didn't get an equal power boost (Even though they did, half of Hagoromo's power) saying this scaling makes no sense is the same as saying:

6=6

-2

4=4

doesn't make sense.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't even remember what i was suppose to be countering all i know is Sasuke win extreme high difficulty.​

Except he doesn't. Hashirama mid diffs him. No higher.

I wonder why you didn't include me in that statement?

OT: Hashirama high difficulty.

Their names came to me at that moment. I can always add you if you want. Lol

 

[FemmeFatale]

Sasuke wins this.