Aang vs Hiruzen

[Lariatoo]

Two staff users and master of elements go against each other!
Location: Aang vs Ozai
Distance: 50 meters apart. On top of the boulders
Conditions:
Hiruzen is on his "prime" (have Base Jiraiya's chakra reserves)
Aang is post TLA but still a kid
Aang starts in base but can go into Avatar state if his life is on danger

Intel: Both know the other uses all elements and a staff

Scenario 2: Aang starts on Avatar Mode

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[super yang]

captain planet wins, low diff w/ the 6th element of ''Heart''

 

[maniaoqan]

Does Aang get Appa for this fight ?

 

[Lariatoo]

Does Aang get Appa for this fight ?

Sure. But I don't think an IC Aang would let Appa on the fight, since He would be on grave danger on the crossfire...

 

[Amaterasu]

Hiruzen stomps both scenarios

 

[Zavage10]

Can Aang take away his bending?

 

[Lariatoo]

Can Aang take away his bending?

Only his ability of using elemental ninjutsu if He manages to trap him like He did with Ozai

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I don't see how any of Hiruzen's techs breaks aang's air sphere.

 

[makosheva7]

Once Aang does into the Avatar State it's game over for Hiruzen. Even without going into "giant" form as seen in Korra season 2.

 

[DMT]

Ichibei solos both


Isn't there HST vs section ?

 

[V h o]

My sig solos

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Aang is impressive, and is like, one of the 5 people in Avatar that can hold a candle to Naruto characters, but he looses against Hiruzen.


The bending in Avatar is inferior to styled ninjutsu in NV. For comparison, look at Ozai's fire bending in Avatar.

[video=youtube;j3dT8oK7y80]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3dT8oK7y80[/video]


Now, compare it to fireball jutsu, a C-ranked fire style jutsu.

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The ground below it (meaning it's not recieving the brunt) is either obliterated or incinerated. You don't see that level of power from anything Ozai used. Take into account that dragon flame bombs are B-ranked, and more powerful. This shows that Hiruzen's power in elemental mastery is quite high. Perhaps not quite as high as Aang, but there are more factors.


Hiruzen is far, far faster. This is another bonus. He doesn't even need to go toe-to-toe with Aang. He can simply evade the vast majority of Aang's attacks with speed alone. Don't forget, Hiruzen crossed a country in a very short amount of time.

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From this point on, Sasuke and co found the Uzamaki temple, resurrected the hokages, and talked to Hashirama simultaneously as Naruto and co. were fighting, which wasn't long. Hiruzen traveled through the heart of the leaf near the land of lightning in what couldn't have been more than a couple of minutes. This should show just how outclassed Aang is in the speed category.


In addition, there's Hiruzen's staff.

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These branches can hold Kurama. Nuff said.


Hiruzen would certainly win against Aang.

 

[Xlad]

Hiruzen certainly wins.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You're wrong on that fire point. Madara's katons are way more powerful than itachi's yet it does nothing to the landscape.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

My sig solos

You're wrong on that fire point. Madara's katons are way more powerful than itachi's yet it does nothing to the landscape.

Here's the scans.

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The drawings of the landscape aren't detailed enough to tell if any damage was done or not. Regardless, it showed that rock is easily obliterated by fire style, whereas Ozai had to strike repeatedly.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Here's the scans.

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The drawings of the landscape aren't detailed enough to tell if any damage was done or not. Regardless, it showed that rock is easily obliterated by fire style, whereas Ozai had to strike repeatedly.

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The ground is uneven and remains uneven even after the attack ends. Thus despite being bigger and more powerful it didn't incinerate/destroy the uneven rock. Further proof of this is Juubi attacking via broken rocks which would be redundant since it should get incinerated(as you claimed) but that dosen't happen. Proving that just because a fire tech is superior to itachi/sasuke's it dosen't gain the attributes of incinerating/destroying rock.

Here's another Example:
Madara's giant fire tech fails to burn through wood and reach gokage:

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So unless you can prove that Hiruzen's fire techs carry those attributes you're assed out, and it still wouldn't change anng's ability to counter it via waterbending, fire bending, or snuffing it out entirely by oxygen deprivation via airbending.

 

[KingHashirama]

Gotta go with Aang on this. Avatar state for the win. Aang's sensing in a fight is probably the best even from Naruto-verse without counting Senjutsu sensing

Aang's skills in simple fighting, his agility and etc.. come on now man, Hiruzen can't match that.

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[Sennin of Logic]

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The ground is uneven and remains uneven even after the attack ends. Thus despite being bigger and more powerful it didn't incinerate/destroy the uneven rock. Further proof of this is Juubi attacking via broken rocks which would be redundant since it should get incinerated(as you claimed) but that dosen't happen. Proving that just because a fire tech is superior to itachi/sasuke's it dosen't gain the attributes of incinerating/destroying rock.

Here's another Example:
Madara's giant fire tech fails to burn through wood and reach gokage:

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So unless you can prove that Hiruzen's fire techs carry those attributes you're assed out, and it still wouldn't change anng's ability to counter it via waterbending, fire bending, or snuffing it out entirely by oxygen deprivation via airbending.

Woah, look who's mad like crazy! I didn't "ass out" attributes. It's a given. This is the reality of the manga. Fireball jutsu was destroying rocks as it passed. You can't shove the fact that an inferior fire style did this.

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Allow me to show you something.

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4 Tailed Naruto's strength was shown to be incredibly impressive. So that means that, in order for Kurama to be stronger (which he is), he has to have the same effect every time he makes a strike right?

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Kishi leaves us with what the smaller scale can do, but doesn't show the same effect all the time. Kurama avatar certainly isn't weaker than 4 tailed Naruto. The absence of an effect being repeated/=/ something's weaker. Absolutely no reason to believe that a higher-ranked jutsu wouldn't have more power.


Aang is flat-out not capable of snuffing out flame casually via oxygen deprevation. Obviously he can't use such an ability in combat as he never used it against a fire bender.

Aang isn't the only one with multiple natures. Hiruzen can also use the ideal natures for his situations.

Gotta go with Aang on this. Avatar state for the win. Aang's sensing in a fight is probably the best even from Naruto-verse without counting Senjutsu sensing

Aang's skills in simple fighting, his agility and etc.. come on now man, Hiruzen can't match that.

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@ bold. Please don't tell me that you just said that Aang's more agile and has better CQB skills than Hiruzen.

 

[Holy God]

Probably Aang. He'd be much too agile for Hiruzen to land much.

 

[Lariatoo]

Glad people are arguing this matchup Lol
I think its one of my favorite crossover matchups because of the number of similarities...