Hiraishin Giri Instant???

[ANiMUS]

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Ok, so I was talking to someone on NB the other day and him and someone else came to the notion that Hiraishin Giri is instant.

So I usually classify instant as involving no discernible time interval in getting from point A to B. Hairaishin is instant because we see the user displaced from point A to point B without any time interval however Hiraishin Giri doesn't do that. At some point Hiraishin Giri breaks down to just high speed movement which is y Madara was able to dodge it.

U can see Tobirama charging towards Madara during his attack in the link provided above. Movement=speed since you cover a set distance in a certain interval of time.
Therefore since instant requires no intervals Hiraishin Giri is not instant

 

[To Whatever]

I'm pretty sure that justu is just using FTG and quickly slashing.

 

[Black Wolf]

Hiraishingiri is a teleportation followed up by a physical slash. Madara does not react to the teleportation itself but to the slash, which is dependent on the attacker's attacking speed. Pretty much the same thing happened to Sage Mode Minato; Madara didn't react to Minato's teleportation, but he reacted to Minato's attacking speed when he tried Rasengan-ing him.

What you've got to do is break the two parts of the technique down and distinguish them. The teleportation part is instantaneous. The slashing part isn't, and that's where the technique can be countered if the attacker isn't fast enough.

 

[ANiMUS]

I'm pretty sure that justu is just using FTG and quickly slashing.

Pretty much. :| He closes in using FTG and then Tobirama dashes past u to slash

 

[To Whatever]

Pretty much. :| He closes in using FTG and then Tobirama dashes past u to slash

That's probably what killed Izuna.

(Don't recall if he named a justu when he killed him.)

 

[ANiMUS]

That's probably what killed Izuna.

(Don't recall if he named a justu when he killed him.)

Yeah, That's what happened in the anime. We saw the kunai and everything

 

[BLAZE]

Yes agreed

 

[Xlad]

Hiraishingiri is a teleportation followed up by a physical slash. Madara does not react to the teleportation itself but to the slash, which is dependent on the attacker's attacking speed. Pretty much the same thing happened to Sage Mode Minato; Madara didn't react to Minato's teleportation, but he reacted to Minato's attacking speed when he tried Rasengan-ing him.

What you've got to do is break the two parts of the technique down and distinguish them. The teleportation part is instantaneous. The slashing part isn't, and that's where the technique can be countered if the attacker isn't fast enough.

Based...

That's pretty much it.

 

[HENI]

Hirashin is instant. Giri is not.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Well Hiraishin Giri's Speed = Hiraishin + Tobirama's Shunshin Speed + His Striking Speed =/= Instant.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Madara reacted to it, therefore, it's not instant. It's pretty much a way to close in quickly, not to attack instantly. For an instant attack, Tobirama would have to mark his opponent, start a thrust, and then teleport straight in front of an opponent.

 

[YellowFang]

I think Tobirama dashes forward before FTGing himself and continues his attack after appearing before the opponent... It's gives him better striking speed.

Just like FTG 2.0 IMO, Minato was rushing forward and with his high speed, he continued the blitz after FTG and gave Obito barely any time to realize the situation...

Both aren't instant, but have more success rate compared to simple FTG and Rasengan combo...

 

[Gold Lightning]

It's only instant if the opponent is marked.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

Apparentlyly it's just FTG teleportation+physical dash+slash. What's weird is that it doesn't seem to require any prior FTG marking

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Hiraishingiri is a teleportation followed up by a physical slash. Madara does not react to the teleportation itself but to the slash, which is dependent on the attacker's attacking speed. Pretty much the same thing happened to Sage Mode Minato; Madara didn't react to Minato's teleportation, but he reacted to Minato's attacking speed when he tried Rasengan-ing him.

What you've got to do is break the two parts of the technique down and distinguish them. The teleportation part is instantaneous. The slashing part isn't, and that's where the technique can be countered if the attacker isn't fast enough.

Obviously this ^^

 

[Gold Lightning]

Apparentlyly it's just FTG teleportation+physical dash+slash. What's weird is that it doesn't seem to require any prior FTG marking

It does require prior marking. Kishi was just too lazy to show it on panel. The anime showed us better though.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

Hiraishingiri is a teleportation followed up by a physical slash. Madara does not react to the teleportation itself but to the slash, which is dependent on the attacker's attacking speed. Pretty much the same thing happened to Sage Mode Minato; Madara didn't react to Minato's teleportation, but he reacted to Minato's attacking speed when he tried Rasengan-ing him.

What you've got to do is break the two parts of the technique down and distinguish them. The teleportation part is instantaneous. The slashing part isn't, and that's where the technique can be countered if the attacker isn't fast enough.

This, nice to know theres another reasonable mind on this base.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

It does require prior marking. Kishi was just too lazy to show it on panel. The anime showed us better though.

It was shown on panel noob

 

[super yang]

yes, of course it is

 

[V h o]

Yea FTG is instant, the attack afterwards is not which is what madara, Obito, and kaguya reacted to, albeit it is an extremely little time interval so usually only someone of SM Madara and up can dodge the attack.