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[-Akuma-]

No. Madara got taken away from his Susano'u ultimately, then he absorbed chakra of Naruto's FRS:

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Sasuke too:

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PP requires physical contact with the chakra beforehand. Susano'o activated is not working, unless you can provide manga scans. You are merely making stuff up.

Do my eyes deceive me.......a rational Sasuke fan

 

[SSStylish]

PP requires physical contact with the chakra beforehand. Susano'o activated is not working, unless you can provide manga scans. You are merely making stuff up.

This should be sufficient enough.

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[lndra]

This should be sufficient enough.

Yes, I ALSO forgot to add that a close proximity also creates that barrier of chakra that seems to form a sphere around the user. Like I pointed out already, that still would not work.

One cannot use the Susanoo or other techs due to the principle of reverse chakra flow.

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So no one can use Susanoo and Preta Path at the same time.

 

[V h o]

Yes, I ALSO forgot to add that a close proximity also creates that barrier of chakra that seems to form a sphere around the user. Like I pointed out already, that still would not work.

One cannot use the Susanoo or other techs due to the principle of reverse chakra flow.

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So no one can use Susanoo and Preta Path at the same time.

How would you explain nagato using preta path and some other together.

 

[lndra]

How would you explain nagato using preta path and some other together.

It would depend on the technique. I have seen PP being used with other Path techniques, but ninjutsu techniques all together would not make sense.

 

[antwquan]

No. Madara got taken away from his Susano'u ultimately, then he absorbed chakra of Naruto's FRS:

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Sasuke too:

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PP requires physical contact with the chakra beforehand. Susano'o activated is not working, unless you can provide manga scans. You are merely making stuff up.

Are you blind? I said while in Susano'o Madara was dragged out of it. And Sasuke was low on chakra to use Susano'o you cant simply twist manga scans to try and sound right. if PP requires direct contact then why did preta do it without? And he had a chakra shield around him to do it.

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Susano'o is part of the users body it's their chakra in physical form it's not illogical at all if they can use PP with Susano'o if anything it proves he can.

 

[V h o]

It would depend on the technique. I have seen PP being used with other Path techniques, but ninjutsu techniques all together would not make sense.

Do path techniques use chakra like ninjutsu then.

 

[lndra]

Are you blind? I said while in Susano'o Madara was dragged out of it. And Sasuke was low on chakra to use Susano'o you cant simply twist manga scans to try and sound right. if PP requires direct contact then why did preta do it without? And he had a chakra shield around him to do it.

Yes, I ALSO forgot to add that a close proximity also creates that barrier of chakra that seems to form a sphere around the user. Like I pointed out already, that still would not work.

One cannot use the Susanoo or other techs due to the principle of reverse chakra flow.

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So no one can use Susanoo and Preta Path at the same time.

I already countered it above.

Do path techniques use chakra like ninjutsu then.

Considering the fact that Sasuke activated PretaPath while he was low on chakra, and when his Rinnegan was on standby (eyes closed) we cannot assume so. The path techniques are on their own level it seems. Some techniques probably require chakra such as; Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, etc require chakra. While the other don't, such as probably, human path maybe? Spiritual one's seems a bit far-fetched though. I'm just going by what the manga shows.

 

[SSStylish]

Do path techniques use chakra like ninjutsu then.

Doesn't this scan imply, that it is possible to cast jutsu while using PP? (bottom left pannel)

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[lndra]

Doesn't this scan imply, that it is possible to cast jutsu while using PP? (bottom left pannel)

See that is the tricky question. Because the Viz scan says something close to that:

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The problem is, is that it goes against what Preta Path has shown being able to do in the manga. Both non-originated eyes, and originated eyes.

From what is shown in the obvious, in the manga scan. It possibly says "Sasuke cannot absorb the chakra of other techniques, while simultaneously turning off his own ninjusu techniques"

 

[antwquan]

I already countered it above.



Considering the fact that Sasuke activated PretaPath while he was low on chakra, and when his Rinnegan was on standby (eyes closed) we cannot assume so. The path techniques are on their own level it seems. Some techniques probably require chakra such as; Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, etc require chakra. While the other don't, such as probably, human path maybe? Spiritual one's seems a bit far-fetched though. I'm just going by what the manga shows.

Actually you didn't DB can't be used when the manga proves it false susano'o = the users chakra manifestation part of the users will what ever Sasuke want it to do it does

 

[lndra]

Actually you didn't DB can't be used when the manga proves it false susano'o = the users chakra manifestation part of the users will what ever Sasuke want it to do it does

The problem with what you are stating, is that the Manga has never shown PP being able to act the way you are describing. I'm not taking your 'word' for it, when we both have posted manga scans of Preta Path only absorbing chakra when:

I. Physical contact was made
or
II. The mystical sphere of the path surrounds the user and absorbs the chakra.

Neither have shown to being able to use while simultaneously using Susano'o. So again, I'm going to have to say no.

 

[V h o]

Doesn't this scan imply, that it is possible to cast jutsu while using PP? (bottom left pannel)

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Seems like it.

Considering the fact that Sasuke activated PretaPath while he was low on chakra, and when his Rinnegan was on standby (eyes closed) we cannot assume so. The path techniques are on their own level it seems. Some techniques probably require chakra such as; Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, etc require chakra. While the other don't, such as probably, human path maybe? Spiritual one's seems a bit far-fetched though. I'm just going by what the manga shows.

I see, so how would describe the use of chakra to use the paths.

 

[lndra]

Seems like it.

See that is the tricky question. Because the Viz scan says something close to that:

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The problem is, is that it goes against what Preta Path has shown being able to do in the manga. Both non-originated eyes, and originated eyes.

From what is shown in the obvious, in the manga scan. It possibly says "Sasuke cannot absorb the chakra of other techniques, while simultaneously turning off his own ninjusu techniques"

I brought the Viz scan /w my comment if you didn't see it^

I see, so how would describe the use of chakra to use the paths.

Since it's not described how it actually works. It would be best not to take my interpretation of it seriously, because anyone can be right on this. From my understanding, when Sasuke first unlocked Preta Path, he almost sounded surprised. "This must be a Rinnegan ability ... with this, I can finally be blah blah"

It was almost as if Kishimoto implied that the Rinnegan accepted his need, which was chakra, when we both know Sasuke was too low on chakra to use any ninjutsu anyway. Brought me to the conclusion that the Rinnegan itself reacts to the user in a way, similar to that situation. I can only assumine Sasuke used Chibaku Tensei only after watching Madara use it during their fight. So that's my best guess on how some of them might come naturally.

 

[DHOH]

Doesn't this scan imply, that it is possible to cast jutsu while using PP? (bottom left pannel)

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Now this is proof..

 

[V h o]

Since it's not described how it actually works. It would be best not to take my interpretation of it seriously, because anyone can be right on this. From my understanding, when Sasuke first unlocked Preta Path, he almost sounded surprised. "This must be a Rinnegan ability ... with this, I can finally be blah blah"

It was almost as if Kishimoto implied that the Rinnegan accepted his need, which was chakra, when we both know Sasuke was too low on chakra to use any ninjutsu anyway. Brought me to the conclusion that the Rinnegan itself reacts to the user in a way, similar to that situation. I can only assumine Sasuke used Chibaku Tensei only after watching Madara use it during their fight. So that's my best guess on how some of them might come naturally.

I might have been vague before, but does chakra flow forwards when using any other path besides preta? The chakra still has to flow

 

[lndra]

Now this is proof..

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Viz scan implies something differently though, so what is your proof exactly?

 

[Transcendence]

How would you explain nagato using preta path and some other together.

I don't know if anyone has noticed this when using that argument, but none of the other paths are Ninjutsu, at all. Yes they use chakra, but they're not made of chakra like Susano'o is.

Nagato > Uses Preta and Human/Asura at the same time. Neither are made of chakra.

Sasuke would have to be in the same proximity in that case to use Preta as well. If he did it with Susano'o it wouldn't work since it would contradict the reverse chakra function of Preta Path while outwardly exerting his own chakra in the form of Susano'o.

 

[V h o]

I don't know if anyone has noticed this when using that argument, but none of the other paths are Ninjutsu, at all. Yes they use chakra, but they're not made of chakra like Susano'o is.

Nagato > Uses Preta and Human/Asura at the same time. Neither are made of chakra.

Sasuke would have to be in the same proximity in that case to use Preta as well. If he did it with Susano'o it wouldn't work since it would contradict the reverse chakra function of Preta Path while outwardly exerting his own chakra in the form of Susano'o.

I don't believe they need to be considered ninjutsu. It's just about how chakra flows, so like if chakra is going forward (which I believe it normally does), then anything using chakra should have chakra going forward.

 

[Transcendence]

I don't believe they need to be considered ninjutsu. It's just about how chakra flows, so like if chakra is going forward (which I believe it normally does), then anything using chakra should have chakra going forward.

No, that's what Ninjutsu is. Using chakra for jutsu and the jutsu is made out of chakra (I.E. Rasengan/Chidori or being right beside someone and absorbing it directly). Deva Path is pure gravity, Asura Path are actual limbs, Human Path has no chakra involved and it's literally pulling out a soul etc. None of them are made out of chakra, which is why it doesn't contradict the reverse flowing nature of Preta path. In comparison, Sasuke absorbing while having Susano'o up is impossible. Reversing his chakra flow with deactivate Susano'o completely since his outward chakra flow would be reversed. Not to mention the manga clearly stipulated that there is a certain cap of absorbing before it becomes too much (Example; when Madara used Limbo on Naruto's Yoton: Rasenshuriken souped up on Senjutsu instead of outright absorbing it.