Base Hashirama vs EMS Sasuke

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Fine. Doesn't really effect my argument too much.
Can you explain to me how Mokujin = Ps? I mean Mokujin doesn't even have offensive feats let alone Offensive feats on Ps level. Kurama exploding Bijuudama vaporized Mokujin and didn't harm Ps. So how are they equal?
 

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you countered nothing the clones clear out his back amaterasu sparks his face chest area of covers the hole front of his body wood clones aint helping shit there.

Damn talk about silly.

The clones can come out wherever the user wants it to It couldn't come out from Hashi's front in that case because Hashi had his hands up for a seal while holding the barrier. Not to mention Madara was behind him so why should he be brining his clone out from the front? Of course you belong to the circus after all.


How is it common sense? i already explained why no perfect susanoo would be greater than another Madara's ribcage or other susanoo stages has not shown to be above Sasuke's so why would perfect susanoo be greater? also you keep telling to to provide proof whats your proof? Trying to use the feat argument is irrelevant we can both go their i can say Naruto's BM avatar is greater than Minato's because it has shown better feats dispite them both being kurama or Madara's only has limbo and not hagoromo because he never showed it face it your only resorting to the feat argument because my logic holds more water then your's try again.


....? No joke, I've never encountered anyone this. Madara has shown feats. Sasuke has not...So he doesn't get Madara's feats that's backed up by the Manga. You talk about ribcage but what feat are you even talking about? The bold even makes you look stupid when it's half of the Kyuubi's in both. Naruto has one half, Minato has the other half.

The you go on talking about this usual rubbish with the underline...If you didn't know, Susanoo is a physical construct of the user's chakra and one needs to learn how to adapt to it and use it properly. Fact is, Susanoo varies with the user's strength and usage.

Should we face your stupid logic weakling? Madara's PS is also as strong as Rinnegan Sasuke's PS buffed with Hagoromo's chakra...or we can say Madara's PS = DMS Kakashi's and Rinnegan Sasuke's just because they are both PS. Debating with you is equivalent to me debating with someone who hasn't heard about the Manga.


was not stalemating anything perfect susanoo clearly was not using its full power or being nerf

And Lmfaoo at the bold, did I destroy you that much? Lol @ that when Madara said PS was his full power and he outright pulled it out to battle him. Why then? BS. I can say the same that Mokujin wasn't using full power you daft kid.

He refused to stop which implies he was going all out
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He said he needed to up his game.
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All you're doing is posting rubbish so stop with this excuse or I might as well say Mokujin was holding back.

because we got fodder who are like meaning Madara's susanoo never even got a clean shockwave out

So? Who cares about this nonsense? We've seen Madara saying this:

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He went all out and didn't care...What makes it funny is the fact that he swung right in front of Mokujin and not towards the people who were to his far right. Try again.


we've seen the power of it when its gets a clean the by standers would have been annihilated.

Hashirama was right in front of him if you didn't know but managed to stay safe. Not to mention I explained but I'll post again

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Clearly shown, we can see the people to his right while he attacks his front towards Mokujin and not towards them. You're excuses are not good enough Master joker.

Even if, Sasuke's PS isn't getting one out if Madara couldn't against Mokujin.

You can deny logic if you want to with this it stalemated PS BS but Perfect has better offensive feats witch can destroy Multiply mountains and much better defense feats surviving a full attack from SS while being in the Aoe of 15 bijuu damas going off there is no way Mokujin stops a ps simple as that.

Lol what makes me laugh is the way you talk rubbish and still try to make it seem like you're owning people.

It stalemated PS and Hashirama didn't feel the need to upgrade when he was holding it down. Lol stop ok? This is Sasuke not Madara. Mokujin battled it till Juubuto brought out the Bijuudamas and he battled it long enough to the extent where Hahsirama wasn't sucked in or Madara would have used PS to annihilate him. Why then didn't Madara keep battling with PS till the very end? Because it was stalemated.

Sasuke's PS is weaker till proven otherwise.


Clearly a shockwaves was not set off there as i said those by standers would have been cleared and if you think Perfect susanoo shockwaves cannot take down mokujin when it destroyed Mountains far larger than itself and Mokujin plus exploded a meteor upon contact please sigh out not happening.

Pure nonsense as I trashed this logic.


Mokujin is never holding Sasuke perfect susanoo arm he has shown great mobility He gets his distance is bombs Mokujin with shockwaves witch turns it to dust we already seen him cut a giant god tree branch with a susanoo weaker than Perfect susanoo now lets put two in two together weaker susanoo cuts stronger and bigger branch (God tree)

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Lol this dude is something else..It held Madara's PS arm preventing a slash. Hashirama already read Madara's PS swing so he'll react by holding its arm when it already did so to Madara.

What mobility did it show? Jumping to attack Obito? Smh. Senjutsu boosted it physically which means its speed and jumping prowess were enhanced since they're all in the physical department. It was used alongside Naruto so it wasn't a combination of one power.

Lol at the branch talk but like I said it was enhanced by Senjutsu and the Kyuubi cloak as you can see ...Put that aside and it's not doing jack to Mokujin. Not to mention Mokujin already evaded its slash as I showed.

Yet stronger susanoo cannot cut a smaller weaker wood element (Mokujin) just does not add up and to further shit on your argument This is base Mokujin that was SM Mokujin we already seen base Mokujin in the past it is the size of half US susanoo. Yea Hashirama is good a evading a sword slash when its not aimed at it and he's ground level but when he's on mokujin face he gets plastered.

Lol what point are you trying to make even? We have the fact that Hashirama's chakra is put into the Mokujin to form a wood construct which is different from these branches you're trying to use as a point.

This is Base Mokujin but sorry that this isn't Madara. Sorry that Hashirama wasn't brought back at full power so you have evidence that the scale between a full powered base Hashirama is way inferior to a non full powered SM Hashirama.


Ill drop these arguments because honestly there not needed however can still use chidori varients with his susanoo.

Lol I shat on you? You had no proof? Lmaoo.

Stop with the bold ok? This is EMS Sasuke not Hagoromo chakra buffed Sasuke. He doesn't have and has never shown it so he doesn't get it.

He does not need to come out to use Kirin he does while remaining in susanoo. Susanoo users are shown to use jutsu in hand signs while in susanoo thats a fire style meaning he used hand signs so he does kirin comfortable while he's inside susanoo witch comes down to fast for Hashirama.

So? Who cares? Does that change the fact that he has to put in everything for Kirin as it was literally a one shot. Not to mention, he has to tame lightning which he isn't doing in PS(His full power). If he settles down to tame lightning you think Mokujin would casually watch him?

Want to know something else amateur? Itach's V1 or V2 protected him from Kirin( Couldn't have been V3 or Yata would have repelled it) Not to mention it's irrelevant no matter the version since V3 is the highest and none of them could take a TBB. Meanwhile, Hahsirama's Hobi technique protected him from a TBB which is way stronger than Kirin. ----->

Even if Mokujin is somehow destroyed, Hahsirama is protected via the Hobi technique and he creates Mokujin again like he did afterwards Meanwhile we have the fact that Sauske can't do jack after Kirin.


Moujin is to big to evade shockwaves plus its lack of mobility kills it here. Also you do know shockwaves are much deadly when they have time to travel right Madara being face to face with Hashirama prevented his shockwaves Like iv been saying Sasuke gets his distance in slays this weak creator.

Dealt with this nonsense.


Disciples what i only have about 3 or 4 real disciples the rest are on the bandwagon (Amaterasu) shoutouts to the real disciples yall know who yall are ICE,JIM,BEANS,Phyco maid, and if i forgot your irrelevant.

My boys Psycho Maid and RJ though. After you all read this, you and your disciples should arrange for this to happen to you:

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What how does this even help your case? Perfect is edo Madara's full power nothing in his arsenal could compete with it and dont compare the two Madara has never shown to use combos like Sasuke so this hole post goes straight down the drain.

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There's a difference between most powerful technique and your full power.

When maintaining your full power, you can't use anything else because you're using everything you have..You're putting all your power into one. You seriously need proof that EMS Sasuke can use Chidori, Amaterasu and the others while holding PS up. This isn't Rinnegan Sasuke that's buffed.


Slap yourself if you think wood dragon can absorb amaterasu its no preta path its gets burnt down and why could he not use amaterasu it comes straight from his eye. Also if he cannot use his enton combos he has his Ration combos witch matched a Bijuu dama Mokujin gets blasted not only are you giving Mokujin all of SM Mokujin feats you just could not deliver in this matchup. PS Shockwaves does Hashirama in along with varients with his ration just to much to overcome.

I guess you tried to be funny? Wood Dragon absorbs chakra which is in contained in Amaterasu further making it useless like how Preta does. Who's chakra is contained is Amaterasu? Of course Sasuke's. How do you think Preta absorbs? It's absorbs the Chakra which enables it absorb Ninjutsu since it contains chakra within it. That's why Preta and the others can't absorb Taijutsu and Raw Senjutsu. That's why Kisame couldn't absorb AT because it had no charka within it. However, Wood dragon absorbs chakra making it useless.

Not to mention the fact that Wood dragon showed the ability to absorb the Avatar(Kurama's chakra)

The underlined with Chidori isn't applicable here. You seriously have the nerve to tell me that I'm giving feats to Mokujin when you've been giving Madara's feats to Sasuke? Stop ok?

I explained that Hashirama wasn't brought back at full power so you have evidence that the scale between a full powered base Hashirama is way inferior to a non full powered SM Hashirama. Even so, Sasuke =/= Madara.

if your not going to reply to my post then there nothing left to be discussed your dismissed besides i perfer kidgamer over his follower anyways im a master he's your leader only fitting i challenge the head of the pack instead of the second in charge

I don't know even know about this Kidgamer issue that made you think I'm whatever you think I am to him but it doesn't bother me anyways.
 
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My boys Psycho Maid and RJ though. After you all read this, you and your disciples should arrange for this to happen to you:

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Lmao, man I joined the group b/c Kifflom and DemonSenju invited me. Unorthodox's views aren't representative of the group, and certainly not my views
 

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So many errors I had to fix.

Lmao, man I joined the group b/c Kifflom and DemonSenju invited me. Unorthodox's views aren't representative of the group, and certainly not my views

Damn Unorthodox though Lmaoo..Dude won't leave me alone
 

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Why is Mokujin being overrated and claimed to be equal to ps? Ps defense is far superior to Mokujin. Let's not even get started with there offensive abilities.​

Mokujin canonically fought on par with PS,
no reason to believe why their defensive abilities would be that different,
saying that PS >>>>>>>>>> mokujin is just going against the manga

So imo Sasuke takes this extreme high difficulty. Kirin plus Ps shockwaves complimented by scorching the entire Mokujin in Amatersu means GG Mokujin. Anything less is simply overwhelmed and outclassed.
Mokuton hobi tanked a TBB with little to no damage, and mokujin grabbed a PS blade with no difficulty,
sasuke only has one blade so once its grabbed, then he has nothing to attack hashirama with

and Lol Kirin is not doing jack shit, neither are PS shockwaves when a direct PS slash was blocked with piss ease,
and Lol at amaterasu burning through mokuton when it failed to burn through the samurai armor, and was shat on by V1 cloak
no reason to believe why its burning through something far more durable
 

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Don't care what anyone thinks or says..This clown's been pestering me about this Kidgamer wank nonsense...So if you feel emotions towards him, you might as well follow suit.
 

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The clones can come out wherever the user wants it to It couldn't come out from Hashi's front in that case because Hashi had his hands up for a seal while holding the barrier. Not to mention Madara was behind him so why should he be brining his clone out from the front? Of course you belong to the circus after all.

Irrelevant because you act as if the would help take the flames off once they come out they catch fire along with Hashirama to also add to the fact him burning to death he's not having time to use a jutsu especially once that contains a hand sign also if you looked carefully at that scan i posted the whole front of Kaguya was covered in flames meaning her face was engulf im pretty sure his clones does not jump of his face. Did it really matter where he brought his clones out from Madara was sitting down not going to attack him anyways he could a brought a clones out 10m away it would not have changed a thing dont even know why you'd bring it up.

No joke, I've never encountered anyone this. Madara has shown feats. Sasuke has not...So he doesn't get Madara's feats that's backed up by the Manga. You talk about ribcage but what feat are you even talking about? The bold even makes you look stupid when it's half of the Kyuubi's in both. Naruto has one half, Minato has the other half.

Showing feats mean nothing Itachi has no durability in his v3 susanoo yet we would give him the average v3 susanoo feats why because its a v3 susanoo this feat argument is not helping you here. This was never about Madara and Sasuke ribcage showing a tanking feat its about the level of susanoo used. In that gai vs sasuke thread everything was based of what hirudora did to Madara's V3 susanoo so if it could destroy his v3 it would destroys sasuke why because its a V3 susanooo so Sasuke's v3 susanoo does not need any tanking feats for it to be compared to Madara's common sense tells you that susanoo no matter who uses it is going to be at the same level unless (Someoone has CM OR SM or some enhancements with it.) feats are not needed.

The you go on talking about this usual rubbish with the underline...If you didn't know, Susanoo is a physical construct of the user's chakra and one needs to learn how to adapt to it and use it properly. Fact is, Susanoo varies with the user's strength and usage.

I clearly know how susanoo works/used trying to make me come off as dumb so your post looks bigger is pathetic. I was using that as a comparison to your not having feat argument because Minato never showned anything but a fat rasengan with his bm avatar and obviously i know they're equals i was just trying to show how dumb it looks to try to bring feats in with something or someone that has the exact same abilities. True Madara has greater chakra or larger chakra reserves than Sasuke but it does not make the jutsu they use different except Katons his susanoo has shown no superiority over sasuke even with his larger or stronger chakra.

Should we face your stupid logic weakling? Madara's PS is also as strong as Rinnegan Sasuke's PS buffed with Hagoromo's chakra...or we can say Madara's PS = DMS Kakashi's and Rinnegan Sasuke's just because they are both PS. Debating with you is equivalent to me debating with someone who hasn't heard about the Manga.

Tsk i predicted this nope because the size or gap difference in chakra does not vary that much from ems sasuke to ems Madara then them compared to Hagoromo'a chakra witch who basically has level chakra with juubi potency he literally enhances everything his chakra touch. Something you also took out of context i was comparing there susanoo together with 2 key factors 1 Susanoo is susanoo unless (Enhanced by a source of Chakra) 2 Madara other versions of Susanoo are no stronger than Sasuke's im pretty sure If Hagoromo had a ribcage susanoo it be PS level + trying to use him to help your argument is insanely desperate.

And Lmfaoo at the bold, did I destroy you that much? Lol @ that when Madara said PS was his full power and he outright pulled it out to battle him. Why then? BS. I can say the same that Mokujin wasn't using full power you daft kid.

Using your full does not mean your going all out example when naruto fought Sasuke he was using his full power with the multiply Kurama avatars yet it was'it till he decided to collect all the nature energy on earth that his was going all out and holding back nothing. How can you say Mokujin was not using its full power when it has not shown anything better than what it did there? thats like if kurama was to fight gyuki and it just used a standard bijuu dama and gyuki did the same but gyuki has not shown to do something greater than what it just used there and they end in a draw yet in another fight you seen kurama uses charged bijuu dama bijuu dama baragae etc you can say that kurama was either nerfed or held back and please read this correctly but i know your not. Once again you fail trying to prove why i look stupid.

He refused to stop which implies he was going all out
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He said he needed to up his game.
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All you're doing is posting rubbish so stop with this excuse or I might as well say Mokujin was holding back.

He clearly say's were edo were not going to die thats why he stomped also going back to VOTE2 Naruto refused to stop before he whipped out his Kurama avatars but he was not going for the kill holding back his power but at the same time needed his full power up just to compete with Sasuke using Perfect otherwise he would get bisected. Madara never said he needed to up his game and if he did it was because if Hashirama went Mokujin he would need to go ps so he would not get squash like a bug. Already explained this Mokujin argument also this is Base Mokujin not sm enhanced Mokujin meaning everything that your bringing up about mokujin just gets deflated because base Mokujin is featless. other than getting pasted by a bijuu dama.



So? Who cares about this nonsense? We've seen Madara saying this:
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He went all out and didn't care...What makes it funny is the fact that he swung right in front of Mokujin and not towards the people who were to his far right. Try again.
Hashirama was right in front of him if you didn't know but managed to stay safe. Not to mention I explained but I'll post again
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Clearly shown, we can see the people to his right while he attacks his front towards Mokujin and not towards them. You're excuses are not good enough Master joker.

Wrong Madara was saying that in a responds to Obito firing off Juubi damas and Hashirama worried about how powerfull that attack is basically he was saying who cares about the power of the attack were immortals we cant die anyways not to him going all out of not caring about the by standers please read the context clues before posted scans that make you look like a fool. Nope Shockwaves effect those he are not aimed at in the fight that fact no fodders were thrown around or anything in that matters shows the lack of power Madara displayed there PS changes the landscape with ease yet nothing was done in that fight fodders casually having conversations when Perfect susanoo is throwing down just is not possible is ps is going all out simple as that.

Even if, Sasuke's PS isn't getting one out if Madara couldn't against Mokujin.

Once Sasuke get his distance Mokujin and Hashirama says goodbye also what puzzles me that you and kidgamer keep saying this Mokujin do does not die or whatever PS blades chopped through SS arms like it was nothing witch is far bigger and stronger than Mokujin witch got 1 shot by a single bijuu dama with unstabilized susanoo tanked with no effects.

Lol what makes me laugh is the way you talk rubbish and still try to make it seem like you're owning people..

Just counter the argument instead of talking damn its a debate not a lecture by the way i own you daily monthly and yearly sorry if im just feeling myself

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It stalemated PS and Hashirama didn't feel the need to upgrade when he was holding it down. Lol stop ok? This is Sasuke not Madara. Mokujin battled it till Juubuto brought out the Bijuudamas and he battled it long enough to the extent where Hahsirama wasn't sucked in or Madara would have used PS to annihilate him. Why then didn't Madara keep battling with PS till the very end? Because it was stalemated.
Sasuke's PS is weaker till proven otherwise.

Hashirama could not upgrade if he could he would have used SS to take out Madara rather than using Wood dragons to subdue him. Irrelevant who it is along as its perfect susanoo and im glade you said its sasuke not Madara your right Sasuke susanoo has shown mobility unlike Madara's also he destroyed Obito's DNA Sword. Sasuke has also shown to swing his sword very fast like he's fighting with in a kenjutsu match but swinging your sword that fast that you can cut up chibaku tensei's that quick has nothing to do with a Hagoromo boost but naturally Sasuke would be better with his perfect susanoo blade considering he is a master in kenjutsu also im tired of you bringing up this sm mokujin feats what can you say for base mokujin? also whats your counter to sasuke getting his distance and keep firing ps shockwaves? Also Madara indeed destroyed Mokujin in that battle Mokujin was not present in that scan and dont say you just cant see you can even see the hotei gates witch are much smaller than ps in that view Mokujin clearly took some damage in that scan he most likely rebuild it also Madara did not use ps again after juubito blasted them with his Juubi damas.

Pure nonsense as I trashed this logic.

Hardly you didnt even adress Perfect susanoo shockwaves turns mokujin to dust unless Mokujin has multipl mountain plus durability or is stronger than 1000s of SS arms just from getting a SM boost if those arn't the cases you didnt trash shit.

Lol this dude is something else..It held Madara's PS arm preventing a slash. Hashirama already read Madara's PS swing so he'll react by holding its arm when it already did so to Madara.

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OH MY GOD thats why i been saying ONCE SASUKE GET HIS DISTANCE can you phucking read as i was saying once he gets his distance witch he will be out off mokujin reach its gets plastered with Shockwaves you keep talking about grabbing susanoo arm damn i feel like im talking to a wall lmao phucking dumbass.




What mobility did it show? Jumping to attack Obito? Smh. Senjutsu boosted it physically which means its speed and jumping prowess were enhanced since they're all in the physical department. It was used alongside Naruto so it wasn't a combination of one power.

Keeping up with the BM avatar forcing Juubito to block instead of dodge etc senjutsu boost from curse mark is far less than that of sage mode so it didnt boost much really try again.

Lol at the branch talk but like I said it was enhanced by Senjutsu and the Kyuubi cloak as you can see ...Put that aside and it's not doing jack to Mokujin. Not to mention Mokujin already evaded its slash as I showed.

Already trashed this witch is completely irrelevant because Perfect susanoo shits > on that form of susanoo to begin Lel at Mokujin dodging a perfect susanoo shockwave when it does not even a feat of moving let alone dodging.


Lol what point are you trying to make even? We have the fact that Hashirama's chakra is put into the Mokujin to form a wood construct which is different from these branches you're trying to use as a point.

Does not matter god tree > Mokuton. also i was using the branches for their pure size nothing else meaning is a susanoo at level can cut a branch much bigger than it Perfect susanoo could cut something mucb bigger than it aswell so GG mokujin.

This is Base Mokujin but sorry that this isn't Madara. Sorry that Hashirama wasn't brought back at full power so you have evidence that the scale between a full powered base Hashirama is way inferior to a non full powered SM Hashirama.

Irrelevant since we already saw mokujin destroyed by a single bijuu dama when Hashirama was alive also the power difference between edo Madara's perfect susanoo and alive Madara's susanoo is very slim if theirs a difference at all Meaning this mokujin gets annihilated Ps shockwaves cuts multiple mountains while bijuu damas only destroy 1 SM Mokujin is no match for ps let alone a smaller base mokujin.


Lol I shat on you? You had no proof? Lmaoo.

Stop with the bold ok? This is EMS Sasuke not Hagoromo chakra buffed Sasuke. He doesn't have and has never shown it so he doesn't get it.

Having Hagoromo chakra does nothing to your chakra mastery periode giving Konohmaru Hagoromos chakra does not mean he just know how to harness nature energy use flight witch it even took Naruto a certaint amount time to do.

So? Who cares? Does that change the fact that he has to put in everything for Kirin as it was literally a one shot. Not to mention, he has to tame lightning which he isn't doing in PS(His full power). If he settles down to tame lightning you think Mokujin would casually watch him?

He does not have to put nothing in Kirin really as it uses no chakra whatsoever he has other ways to use kirin than the manga has shown
but even the natural way to use kirin is enough he can tame lighting it has no effect of his susanoo most elemental attack dont Madara able to fire katon clean through his susanoo sasuke being able to equip his susanoo with ration in kirin is stronger with the amount of heat EMS Sasuke spamm amaterasu with no end and use kirin witch strikes 1/1000 of second to catch Hashirama by surprise after he's already tammed the lighting.

Want to know something else amateur? Itach's V1 or V2 protected him from Kirin( Couldn't have been V3 or Yata would have repelled it) Not to mention it's irrelevant no matter the version since V3 is the highest and none of them could take a TBB. Meanwhile, Hahsirama's Hobi technique protected him from a TBB which is way stronger than Kirin. ----->

Lemme get this straight v2 tanked kirin witch turned the uchiha hideout to paste yet v3 was completely destroyed by Hirudora witch is no where near the size of kirin nor is anywhere near the level of destroying the uchiha hideout. Onc again you fall short Itachi chooses to use yata mirror and totsuka this scan right used his v3 susanoo with no yata mirror or totsuka yet when he needed a sword he used nb4 complain the anime is not cannon look at this manga scan the second little image at the top of itachi susanoo you can see the guard for totsuka


Yes because a tbb strikes at 1/1000 of a second slap yourself.

Even if Mokujin is somehow destroyed, Hahsirama is protected via the Hobi technique and he creates Mokujin again like he did afterwards Meanwhile we have the fact that Sauske can't do jack after Kirin.

Hashirama is on top of Mokujin kirin strikes him down from there killing him like that. Kirin does not drain all of Sasuke's chakra its takes no chakra its natural raw lighting Ps shockwaves ends it if kirin does not hobei gates gets obliverated.

Dealt with this nonsense.

How all you keep saying is it grabs ps arms boy psh you literally did nothing but try to prove me wrong you sidestepped every single thing i said things you havent counter was the Kirin argument Once Sasuke gets his distance and get using shockwaves or even he slashes mokujin in quick sessions like he did Madara's chibaku tensei etc all your doing is repeating yourself without giving any counters in posted dumb gifs child please.


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There's a difference between most powerful technique and your full power.
When maintaining your full power, you can't use anything else because you're using everything you have..You're putting all your power into one. You seriously need proof that EMS Sasuke can use Chidori, Amaterasu and the others while holding PS up. This isn't Rinnegan Sasuke that's buffed.

Already adressed this horseshit does not matter what Sasuke it is Perfect susanoo is his full power regarless unless he fuses it with bijuu chakra uses other techs like amaterasu and ration just complement it making his tech more stronger or dangerous depending on what he uses with them uses your full power does not restrict other abilities SS is hashirama full power yet he can use Mokujin and Mokuton dragon. Ashura mode is naruto full power yet he can use BDFRS and collect nature energy but.

I guess you tried to be funny? Wood Dragon absorbs chakra which is in contained in Amaterasu further making it useless like how Preta does. Who's chakra is contained is Amaterasu? Of course Sasuke's. How do you think Preta absorbs? It's absorbs the Chakra which enables it absorb Ninjutsu since it contains chakra within it. That's why Preta and the others can't absorb Taijutsu and Raw Senjutsu. That's why Kisame couldn't absorb AT because it had no charka within it. However, Wood dragon absorbs chakra making it useless.

Did you really just make a whole argument about the mechanics of absorbing chakra lawd you say these things like i dont know them wood dragon compresses restrain chakra from being used not absorb it all together unless we have a scan on Hashirama sucking up a jutsu or absorbing a jutsu completely throw this shitty little paragraph out the window. To also add if it was like a preta or anythign why did that single bijuu dama plow right through it?

Not to mention the fact that Wood dragon showed the ability to absorb the Avatar(Kurama's chakra)

Lawd you going to post Kurama chakra didnt the same effect happen to Yamato's wood it grew bigger got branches in shit clearly in exception when it comes to bijuu chakra indirectly.

The underlined with Chidori isn't applicable here. You seriously have the nerve to tell me that I'm giving feats to Mokujin when you've been giving Madara's feats to Sasuke? Stop ok?

Not giving Madara feats to sasuke giving perfect susanoo feats to perfect susanoo learn the difference not giving the same jutsu its same effects after one is clearly boosted by a stronger and more chakra source.

I explained that Hashirama wasn't brought back at full power so you have evidence that the scale between a full powered base Hashirama is way inferior to a non full powered SM Hashirama. Even so, Sasuke =/= Madara.

Irrelevant since we already know the limitations of base Mokujin witch was used by alive Hashirama and it was destroyed with ease also Madara was weaker due to to edo tensei as well.

I don't know even know about this Kidgamer issue that made you think I'm whatever you think I am to him but it doesn't bother me anyways.

it does bother i have proof

If you say anything disrespectful regarding me AGAIN, I'm seriously going to block you or get the mods to handle you..Understand you fool?

you fake internet thug..catch you slippin on here and I'll piss all over your face.

you caught stupid feeling these are all post you left in our vm

EXPOSED. got you all out of your character because your catching feeling that i owned you in a debate its the norm evani we both know this

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Can you explain to me how Mokujin = Ps? I mean Mokujin doesn't even have offensive feats let alone Offensive feats on Ps level. Kurama exploding Bijuudama vaporized Mokujin and didn't harm Ps. So how are they equal?

They are equal because they were shown to fight on par in the manga. It doesn't get any simpler than that. Does that mean Mokujin=PS in every single category? Nope. That just makes PS look bad, since a (allegedly) construct inferior in every category can somehow fight on par with it.
 

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And I see unorthodox is still giving Madara's feats to Sasuke....
 

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What's really funny is this dude thinks Madara aimed shockwaves at the Gokage...Like seriously why again should this guy be replied to? If he could read he'll see Madara hit a rock and came falling towards the Gokage He said the fodders could have been killed by the shockwaves despite them not being close but the Hokages who were in Range somehow survived it according to your logic? Enough of your jokes.


Oh yeah? So Because this happened it means Wood Dragon can't absorb a technique that's burning the body with chakra. Even Preta took a while to absorb a much smaller technique and you're talking about a Bijuudama which was used to instantly destroy WD from the inside of its mouth which it has never even used to absorb. Amaterasu=\= to those techniques. Trash arguments.
 
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This is a question for everyone supporting Sasuke (especially unorthdox). What do you think is stronger?

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This is a question for everyone supporting Sasuke (especially unorthdox). What do you think is stronger?

This?


Or This?

Unorthodox will say that Sasuke's one can beat Madara's one
 

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Mokujin canonically fought on par with PS,
no reason to believe why their defensive abilities would be that different,
saying that PS >>>>>>>>>> mokujin is just going against the manga
Just because it fought on par with Ps doesn't mean it is equal to Ps and it actually. What do you mean fought on par that was SM inhanced Mokujin vs Ps remember the edo's aren't as strong as there alive counter parts. Fighting on par with something doesn't mean equal to something.


Mokuton hobi tanked a TBB with little to no damage, and mokujin grabbed a PS blade with no difficulty,
sasuke only has one blade so once its grabbed, then he has nothing to attack hashirama with

and Lol Kirin is not doing jack shit, neither are PS shockwaves when a direct PS slash was blocked with piss ease,
and Lol at amaterasu burning through mokuton when it failed to burn through the samurai armor, and was shat on by V1 cloak
no reason to believe why its burning through something far more durable
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This is all assuming Hashirama will be within grabbing rage. He'll simply make a enton blade or shoot Susanoo arrows to plow through Mokujin's arm. Why isn't Kirin doing jack shit? Ps shockwaved obliterated Mokujin.( ).as we see here the hands that once held Ps blade are chopped in half so no it isn't tanking a shockwave. Ofc it took some time to burn steel/Iron. Mokujin is nothing but a huge construct of wood which is very flammable and if Amaterasu i there long enough it would burn it and cause disfiguration in his jutsu seeing as it did Kabuto's Muki Tensei.

They are equal because they were shown to fight on par in the manga. It doesn't get any simpler than that. Does that mean Mokujin=PS in every single category? Nope. That just makes PS look bad, since a (allegedly) construct inferior in every category can somehow fight on par with it.
Just because something is shown to fight on par doesn't mean it's equal. Example Edo Itachi and KM Naruto fought on par with each other means that there equal no? Ps beats Mokujin in every category. Destructive capabilities,Durability, etc. Please enlighten me on a aspect that Mokujin has that is it greater or equal to in Ps? He'll there not even equal in size.

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That's a standing Susanoo against Ps it's pretty clear which is stronger. Also why would Madara Ps be tiers above Sasuke's when his Rib cage,Skeleton Version,V1 armored version showed no superior to Sasuke's Rib cage,Skeleton version,v1 armored version?
 
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Ps beats Mokujin in every category. Destructive capabilities,Durability, etc. Please enlighten me on a aspect that Mokujin has that is it greater or equal to in Ps? He'll there not even equal in size.[/GLOW][/CENTER][/FONT]

Don't need to. PS was being matched by Mokujin in the manga. You can think whatever you want to think about their individual capabilities, but it's not going to change the fact that they were fighting on par. I suggest we learn how a fight works. 3-Tomoe Sasuke wasn't as fast, as durable, or as physically strong as KN0 Naruto, yet he was still beating the shit out of him. Minato isn't as strong as Ay, doesn't have as much firepower, nor is he as durable, yet he'd still stomp Ay any day of the week.


If PS was >>>>> Mokujin like you and unorthodox claim, then PS would've one shotted it. But what happened? Oh wait, Mokujin fought PS from the time it was called to the time it was taken out by Obito's Bijuu Dama.
 

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Ps beats any other susanoo thats not ps so ofc it wins however the one he used took cover kurama equals that ps
 

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Unorthodox will say that Sasuke's one can beat Madara's one
Who are you again a rejected fan your not a disciple lel glad to see you changed it from unorthodox's disciple. fans smh like the paparazzi just stalkin my everymove geuss ima superstar hahahahaha Almighty All Hell King Unorthodox
 
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Who are you again a rejected fan your not a disciple lel glad to see you changed fans smh lil the paparazzi just stalkin my everymove geuss ima superstar

Since when I was a fan ? That's you whose fan of me
 
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