[Discussion] 50 Most Powerful One Piece Characters
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Seeing as Zoro is the real captain of the Marimo Pirates, who do you think is his first mate?
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I like how he still hasn't explained how Shanks isn't a real swordsman, and I guarantee his answer is gonna be Haki.
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I figured since rumours leading Urouge to believe he's vice captain means he's vice captain, then this cements him as actual captain
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It's either that or he can fight without his sword if he wants to
Funny because Zoro can use Haki and so can Mihawk (trained Zoro), guess they're not proper swordsmen either
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"He must be their real captain."
Are you delusional on purpose to hold onto this love for Zoro being the vice captain, or is it an outside defect?
And again, they were questioning it because of Zoro's strength(that they actually observed directly), questioning if it was a mistake made by the marines. Besides, you're already wrong on something. I don't actually care if he ever get the vice-captain title officially or not. Actually i even prefer it this way, with him being renowned as one world wide without actually receiving the official title, the vice-captain but in the dark, due to his actions and duties to follow
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Explaining some of my placements
Old Rayleigh is "so low" because he fought on par with Kizaru and was sweating. The sweat can be interpted as being worried for the SHs bit I see it as "low stamina" as he talked about his age.
I see Smoker, Croc and Caesar as being on par with each other. Since I think Smoker can beat Pica, I see Croc and Caeasr winning as well. Smoker and Croc being elusive with their DF powers, Gastille etc..
Because he doesn't live and breath the swordsman code n' honor. Hes a swordsman but at the same time he's not. He just has really strong swordsmanship.
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"He must be their real captain."
"I see. Then let us act accordingly."
The first is a statement, not a question, not a suggestion. It isn't "Maybe he's the real captain." It's not "How is he not the real captain." It is "He is the real captain." That character truly thinks he is the real captain.
"I see." This is agreeing. There is no "Maybe he's not." There is no "You might be right." This is "You have said he is the real captain, and I have accepted this statement as truth."
If you accept that Urouge's conclusion based on rumours and a display of monstrosity is cement that Zoro is vice-captain, then you must accept that his conclusion that Zoro's the true captain, based on rumours and a display of monstrosity, cements him as the true captain. Otherwise, you are a hypocrite.
You can voice your delusions all you want, won't change these facts. You can want Zoro to be the Strawhat's Dark Knight all you want. Ain't gonna happen. In fact, Sanji fills the roll of "Character doing things in the dark" far more than Zoro.
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Doesn't matter. Consistently and regularly uses a sword makes him a swordsman. Just because he might not be as dedicated doesn't make him not a swordsman.
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@bold, so why, if he's got strong swordsmanship, is he not the strongest swordsman in the world? Only answer is Mihawk is stronger
What code of honor? Swordsmen follow different codes of honor e.g. Samurai vs Hacchin vs Kaku, all very different ideologies. Besides, Shanks does have code of honor which revolves heavily around the safety of his friends
There is no hypocrisie at all. The rumours are actually the one dressing Luffy as the captain(with the bounty on his head even). The baroque works guys were actually the ones not understanding those "rumours" because they couldn't believe the "rumoured captain" deserved that bounty by seeing him in person. Understand now?
Well i'd wait until i actually see someone calling Sanji the vice-captain then
Yup. Speed, armament observation and strength give Luffy the edge
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Nope. There is hypocrisy. It doesn't matter if they formed their conclusion because they misinterpreted the rumors or interpreted the rumors differently than Urouge, they both formed their conclusion off of rumors. You're accepting Urouge's simply because it fits what you want to be true better.
*Sigh* Once again, rumors are things that spread world wide. Just like the rumors were saying Luffy is the captain(with the bounty over his head), same rumors were spreading around the fact Zoro was the vice. Similarly, exactly how they doubted the rumors after seeing Luffy in person, Urouge started to doubt how someone as formidable as Zoro can serve under someone. All that means he didn't actually know Zoro in person. All what he knew about came from rumors