EMS Madara and Muu vs SM Hashirama

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@Bold, is that applying the same mentality Hashirama had at VOTE, where he would stop attacking after he countered?

If Hashirama starts with SS it might be mid diff.....maybe......considering Hashirama had already used jukai kotan, wood golem, Hotei Jutsu, summoning 5 gates etc. That's not taking into account what happened off panel too, Madara said Hashirama bound Kyuubi with wood dragon and that was not shown in the manga (if I rember correctly).

Hashi was pretty much stalling since he didn't want to kill Madara until he resorted to SS.
 

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If Hashirama starts with SS it might be mid diff.....maybe......considering Hashirama had already used jukai kotan, wood golem, Hotei Jutsu, summoning 5 gates etc. That's not taking into account what happened off panel too, Madara said Hashirama bound Kyuubi with wood dragon and that was not shown in the manga (if I rember correctly).

Hashi was pretty much stalling since he didn't want to kill Madara until he resorted to SS.
5 gates was to only diver t the tbb. And if you noticed he never used those attacks as an offense to kill Madara , he used them as a way to counter Madara.

- Stopped using the buddha
- Madara uses PS slash , uses hand to counter, doesn't try anything else.
- Madara tries TBB, uses golum to counter

Hashirama never truly went on the offensive, where Madara would be the one reacting to his attacks. It was always, Madara attacks Hashirama counters. And even after their off--screen battle if you look at their clash, Hashriama could've just done the stab from wood clone, while Madara went to attack, but he waited until he was positive he needed to kill him.

Nevermind you already acknowledged that in your post. But even the buddha was only to take down the Kurama+ PS combo (he showed how it was destroying the surroundings), and thats it, he stops using it once it disbands.

^^ Their fight replicated Naruto and Sasuke's VOTE fight. If both Naruto and Hashirama wanted they could've beat their opponents without having to nearly tie with them.
 

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Is this guy still denying manga fact? Hashirama already shat on Madara, you are gonna have to get over it. PS tries to get out of SS's range, but then gets caught, tossed around and bitchslapped till it breaks. Then Hashirama steps on Madara like a bug. Add Sasuke and the same thing happens.

Hashirama didnt shit on anything but i geuss any kind of win is shat even if they died in the same battlefield. Nope Susanoo has shown some great leaping ability getting out SS range is nothing once Madara's gets his distance because SS is incredibly slow he bombs it with fly susanoo swords witch in the past pasted SS hands and even if SS catches PS it does not destroy it easy its 1000 hand assult failed to completely destroy PS a slap does nothing however i agree SS wins eventually but its med-high diff not this stomp you make it out to be. If Sasuke was added there it would be a stomp do not kid yourself.

Sorry Unorthodox, disliked by mistake :snick:

Ot-- EMS Madara w/Kurama already pushes Hashirama to high diff. Madara dies, Kurama gets put to sleep, and Mu finishes a Hashirama on his last legs.

Yea i was about to say demonic wanna dislike post i got some for that ass but anyways i accept your apology Unorthodox forgives you
 

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As I said before, I think Hashiram can sense him

Not important when he'll be too weak to do anything to him.

Hashirama didnt shit on anything but i geuss any kind of win is shat even if they died in the same battlefield. Nope Susanoo has shown some great leaping ability getting out SS range is nothing once Madara's gets his distance because SS is incredibly slow he bombs it with fly susanoo swords witch in the past pasted SS hands and even if SS catches PS it does not destroy it easy its 1000 hand assult failed to completely destroy PS a slap does nothing however i agree SS wins eventually but its med-high diff not this stomp you make it out to be. If Sasuke was added there it would be a stomp do not kid yourself.

1. PS hasn't shown any kind of leaping ability.

2. What his other Susanoo have shown isn't fast enough to escape a construct that has fists that move as fast as Kurama's Bijuu Dama, and span across a Mountain's distance. I suggest we get feats before we make ridiculous claims.

3. EMS Sasuke is slower than Madara, who is on par with Hashirama in speed. Sasuke tracked and tagged Juubito. Hashirama easily does the same thing to Madara's vastly slower in comparison Susanoo.

Flying Susanoo blades? This fanfic again? Madara throws both his blades, but SS plows through them and pounds Susanoo till it breaks. 11 Bijuu Dama blades>Blades by themselves. If PS couldn't take down Mokujin, then it's not taking down SS no matter what you say. Simple logic.

@bold: If you read the manga, you'd know that Madara had no Susanoo after it was destroyed. Not interested in your interpretation of the manga, just what Kishimoto has shown us.

It's not mid-high diff. PS+Kurama>>>PS on it's own. If he high diffs that, he mid diffs that at best, and that takes into account the whole battle. Not SS vs. PS, which is an utter god stomp. Add Sasuke and it's still a rape since not only is his PS inferior to Madara's, the combo is inferior to PS Kurama.

SS>PS Kurama>>Madara's PS>Sasuke's PS.
 
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Not if he senses him at the start

And what's he going to do? He needed all his power to fight Madara. He's not taking care of anyone else. Then there's the fact that Mu can hide in Susanoo, making this whole point moot.
 

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Not if he senses him at the start

And what's he going to do? He needed all his power to fight Madara. He's not taking care of anyone else. Then there's the fact that Mu can hide in Susanoo, making this whole point moot.
 

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And what's he going to do? He needed all his power to fight Madara. He's not taking care of anyone else. Then there's the fact that Mu can hide in Susanoo, making this whole point moot.

Mokuryuu Dragon takes care of him
 

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If Madara has the Kyuubi, then team 1 wins. Otherwise, Hashirama wins.
 

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It takes care of him in or out, Mokuryuu can catch a Kyuubi PS, also if Mokuryuu fails, Mokujin will help

Lol....I feel like there is something we aren't understanding here. Hashirama needed Shinsuusenju to take out PS Kurama. Mu will be inside there, so Hashirama needs SS to get to Mu, thus he weakens himself like he did in canon, and he dies when Mu snipes him.

Lol @ Mokuryu doing anyting to PS Kurama when Kurama alone canonically destroyed it and Mokujin with Bijuu Dama.
 

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Lol....I feel like there is something we aren't understanding here. Hashirama needed Shinsuusenju to take out PS Kurama. Mu will be inside there, so Hashirama needs SS to get to Mu, thus he weakens himself like he did in canon, and he dies when Mu snipes him.

Lol @ Mokuryu doing anyting to PS Kurama when Kurama alone canonically destroyed it and Mokujin with Bijuu Dama.

Lmao, Shinsuusenju is overkill.
Mokujin takes the Bijuu Dama with its bare hands and give it back to Kyuubi.
 

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Lmao, Shinsuusenju is overkill.
Mokujin takes the Bijuu Dama with its bare hands and give it back to Kyuubi.

I suggest you read the manga before we continue this argument. Chapter 620 and 621, cause I don't even need to type words to counter your posts. The manga does it for me, explicitly.
 

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I suggest you read the manga before we continue this argument. Chapter 620 and 621, cause I don't even need to type words to counter your posts. The manga does it for me, explicitly.

All I know is the same thing happens, Hashirama senses him and stomp him with a clone
 

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All I know is the same thing happens, Hashirama senses him and stomp him with a clone

Then I'll take your concession since you are contradicting manga events. Reply again when you are actually going to make points that don't ignore manga events.
 

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Then I'll take your concession since you are contradicting manga events. Reply again when you are actually going to make points that don't ignore manga events.

Maybe I'm underrating Mû. :hmm: Or overrating Hashirama
 

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Muu and Oonoki gets killed during the course of the battle.
 

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Sorry Unorthodox, disliked by mistake :snick:

Ot-- EMS Madara w/Kurama already pushes Hashirama to high diff. Madara dies, Kurama gets put to sleep, and Mu finishes a Hashirama on his last legs.
You liar. ;)
 
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