3t Itachi vs 3t Obito

[Lariatoo]

Basically what if it was Itachi instead of Kakashi against Obito

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Location: Kamui dimension
Distance: 10 meters
Intel: None
Conditions: Obito can use black rods that erupt from his hands for fighting and Itachi is healthy (with MS Sasuke's stamina and chakra reserves)
Restrictions: Shisui's crow, Izanami, Izanagi, Kurama

Who wins?

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Itachi wins. He has better skill in CQC considering that he was stalemating Kakashi, who has a 4.5 in the databook and bested Obito in taijutsu, and more versatile ninjutsu. Genjutsu won't be a factor, and no way is Obito getting off that giant katon of his when Itachi will be in his face, and can feint him with karasu bunshins, which have fooled both sharingan and sage perception before.

 

[Omar19992010]

Obito wins.

Katon on Madara's Level and Mokuton on Yamato Level.

Being able to match Kakashi and control the flow of the battle against him

Itachi's Genjutsu is useless against the like of Obito.

 

[Trollkage]

Exploding rin clone gg

 

[maniaoqan]

Obito's ninjutsu arsenal is superior.
Mokuton spikes, Itachi aint getting closer.
He can hold himself in taijutsu quite well.

Itachi's only edge is genjutsu but without MS it wouldn't do much good against a sharingan user.

Obito takes this medium diff at best.

 

[Praydara]

Obito takes it. Itachi's trump cards aren't a factor here, and although he's better in taijutsu than Obito, Obito's ninjutsu are on a greater scale and are generally better. It's not like Obito is a chump in taijutsu, either. He was holding off Kakashi, who we all know is skilled in taijutsu, just fine until the end. Plus, if he actually uses the Rinnegan for once, it becomes kind of a stomp. Without the Rinnegan's powers though, it's Obito mid-diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito one shots with Katon.

 

[Chazzi]

Itachi, low-diff.

 

[Izanamı.]

Obito wins low-diff.​

 

[Gold Lightning]

"Giant Katon" requires kamui/MS. :|

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

"Giant Katon" requires kamui/MS. :|

No it doesn't. Kamui merely manipulates the katon's course and shape into a vortex like pattern [

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] like Obito does with a smaller version [

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]. The sharingan doesn't enhance it's size. Obito would still be able to use a juubi sized katon without kamui, just that he wouldn't be able shape it into a vortex.

Anyways, I don't see how Obito is getting that off from 10 meters with Itachi's shunshin speed in CQC.

 

[maniaoqan]

No it doesn't. Kamui merely manipulates the katon's course and shape into a vortex like pattern [

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] like Obito does with a smaller version [

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]. The sharingan doesn't enhance it's size. Obito would still be able to use a juubi sized katon without kamui, just that he wouldn't be able shape it into a vortex.

Anyways, I don't see how Obito is getting that off from 10 meters with Itachi's shunshin speed in CQC.

It still buffs it with wind. Its not a Fuuton but it still fans the flame. Even without Kamui support Obito's Katon is still above Itachi's.

 

[Gold Lightning]

No it doesn't. Kamui merely manipulates the katon's course and shape into a vortex like pattern [

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] like Obito does with a smaller version [

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]. The sharingan doesn't enhance it's size. Obito would still be able to use a juubi sized katon without kamui, just that he wouldn't be able shape it into a vortex.

Anyways, I don't see how Obito is getting that off from 10 meters with Itachi's shunshin speed in CQC.

He called it Bakufu Ranbu. Of course it's the same technique, why would it have the same name yet not work the same. The other one looks bigger because it's from a longer distance, the farther the flame travels, the larger the flame vortex increases. Can clearly see Obitos MS is activated, kishi even gives us a close up of his Ms to show that he's manipulating the flames. Can you not see the motion lines/emphasis lines (I don't know what to call it), that kishi put around Obitos eye, to show that he's using ms.

There's a reason Obito could only use fireball jutsu in the kamui dimension :|. Also Obito doesn't randomly switch to MS unless he's using Ms techniques, he always reverts back to 3T.

Even the animators know he used Kamui.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

He called it Bakufu Ranbu. Of course it's the same technique, why would it have the same name yet not work the same. The other one looks bigger because it's from a longer distance, the farther the flame travels, the larger the flame vortex increases. Can clearly see Obitos MS is activated, kishi even gives us a close up of his Ms to show that he's manipulating the flames. Can you not see the motion lines/emphasis lines (I don't know what to call it), that kishi put around Obitos eye, to show that he's using ms.

There's a reason Obito could only use fireball jutsu in the kamui dimension :|. Also Obito doesn't randomly switch to MS unless he's using Ms techniques, he always reverts back to 3T.

Not at all, because clearly the technique is as big as Madara's, and both katons are bigger than the Juubi stuck in between Mountain Sandwich

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[Gold Lightning]

Not at all, because clearly the technique is as big as Madara's, and both katons are bigger than the Juubi stuck in between Mountain Sandwich

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.

I don't think you know what I'm saying.

When Obito used it on Kakashi and Guy, they were standing about 20 meters from each other.

When Obito used it on the alliance, the distance was well over 100 meters. The range and intensity of the Flames continuously expand the further it travels. Hence why it was so massive compared to his first usage, the first time it didn't travel far enough for the flames to even expand that much.

He called it Bakufu Ranbu (meaning it's the same exact jutsu he used last time), which means kamui manipulation was involved. His Mangekyou was clearly highlighted to show he was using it. The flame was clearly spiralling, meaning it was being manipulated by kamui. Doesn't get more clear than that.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Obito wins.

Katon on Madara's Level and Mokuton on Yamato Level.

Being able to match Kakashi and control the flow of the battle against him

Itachi's Genjutsu is useless against the like of Obito.

Lmfao

 

[BenjerminGaye]

He called it Bakufu Ranbu. Of course it's the same technique, why would it have the same name yet not work the same. The other one looks bigger because it's from a longer distance, the farther the flame travels, the larger the flame vortex increases. Can clearly see Obitos MS is activated, kishi even gives us a close up of his Ms to show that he's manipulating the flames. Can you not see the motion lines/emphasis lines (I don't know what to call it), that kishi put around Obitos eye, to show that he's using ms.

There's a reason Obito could only use fireball jutsu in the kamui dimension :|. Also Obito doesn't randomly switch to MS unless he's using Ms techniques, he always reverts back to 3T.

Even the animators know he used Kamui.

Actually the close up was for him to release the shurikens from kamui land. Not for his katon.
Hence why Maddy got the close up as well, since he used yaska.

Not to mention said "close ups" happens after they use their respective fire techs.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

I don't think you know what I'm saying.

When Obito used it on Kakashi and Guy, they were standing about 20 meters from each other.

When Obito used it on the alliance, the distance was well over 100 meters. The range and intensity of the Flames continuously expand the further it travels. Hence why it was so massive compared to his first usage, the first time it didn't travel far enough for the flames to even expand that much.

He called it Bakufu Ranbu (meaning it's the same exact jutsu he used last time), which means kamui manipulation was involved. His Mangekyou was clearly highlighted to show he was using it. The flame was clearly spiralling, meaning it was being manipulated by kamui. Doesn't get more clear than that.

The thing you don't get is that Kamui doesn't enhance the size of Obito's katon, which he kneaded with his own chakra, merely its shape.

 

[Conspirator.]

Obito should win.

 

[Beans2]

Itachi closes the distance and kills him in close conbat