[Theory] Kin'emon is perfect for the Strawhats

24 12 11 to troll

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 24, 2011
Messages
11,214
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Here's why:

A Strawhats Criterium:
1. Running Gags, very obscure and yet somehow fits in

Luffy: Meat, complete idiocy
Zoro: Drinking and sleeping, green hair
Sanji: Ridiculous perversion and flattery
Franky: Gimmicks such as his dances and nipple lights, goofy character in general
Robin: Somewhat sadistic and masochistic remarks although normal most of the time
Brook: Dead, perversion (although not on par with Sanji)
Chopper: A Human-esque Reindeer that never fitted in, cotton candy, extremely fearful pirate
Nami: Obsession with money and riches, fearful pirate
Usopp: A fearful pirate, always lying and exaggerating stories

Kin'emon: Flatulist from a "closed door country", stuck in his old ways because of this, he's also a massive pervert

2. They would normally despise pirates (except for Luffy and Brook of course)

Zoro: Pirate Hunter
Sanji: Past encounter -> Shipwreck scarred childhood etc.
Franky: Didn't hate them... just didn't like them either
Robin: Didn't trust Pirates although she worked alonside them
Chopper: Blackbeard Pirates, although he admired what Hiriluk said about Pirates
Nami: Arlong Pirates sovereignty over Cocoyashi
Usopp: Black Cat Pirates, because of their scheming etc.

Kin'emon: As a Samurai, for it is honorable

3. Initial rejection of Luffy's offer, they find a mutual enemy in an arc

Zoro: Pirate Hunter, Morgan
Sanji: Loyal to the Baratie, Krieg
Franky: Loyal to his "Family", CP9
Robin: Never offered as they were enemies, Crocodile
Brook: Couldn't join because he lacked his shadow, Moriah
Chopper: Felt he couldn't join as a "monster", Wapol
Nami: Had her deal with Arlong, Arlong
Usopp: Kaya etc, Klahadore

Kin'emon: Despised Pirates (Luffy offered his legs to join the crew), Caesar - Doflamingo

4. Based on or inspired by people or other fiction
This is either related to their design, traits or backstory

Luffy: Eiichiro Oda's childhood Persona
Zoro: Francois L'Ollonais and El Zorro
Sanji: Steve Buschemi and Romeo
Franky: Popeye the Sailorman
Robin: Cinderella
Brook: Dead Man from an Elegy written by Wordsworth
Chopper: Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
Nami: Cat Woman
Usopp: The Boy Who Cried Wolf and Aesopp

Kin'emon: Nakamura Kinnosuke

5. Based on a nationality stereotype (of sourts):
Luffy: Brazilian
Zoro: Japanese
Sanji: French
Franky: American
Robin: Russian
Brook: Austrian
Chopper: Canadian
Nami: Swedish
Usopp: African

Kin'emon: Hokkaido; the birth place of Samurai and considered a seperate nation from Japan until the 1850's, Since Kin'emon is almost stuck in the past as citizen of Wanokuni - it fits

Odas Numbers:

Chopper = 1 & 10 Hi=1, To=10, he ate the Hito Hito no mi
Luffy = 5 & 6 Go=5, Mu=6, he ate the Gomu Gomu no mi
Robin = 8 & 7 Ha=8, Na=7, She ate the Hana Hana no Mi
Brook = 4 & 3 4=Yo, 3=Mi, He ate the Yomi Yomi no Mi
So what numbers are left? 2 and 9. What obvious Japanese word is formed from those two combined? Fuku, the Japanese word for clothing. Who do we know who ate the Fuku Fuku no Mi?
That would be Kin'emon...

Swordsman Trio:
Zoro wields three swords
Brook wields one sword

There is a gap, a lack of a dual wielder:
Kin'emon

Zoro's swords are neutral
Brook uses ice
Kin'emon uses fire

He just... fits, ya know? And it appears he's had a tough past because of his apparent relation with Kaido; it's possible he and Momonosuke had been exiled and Kin'emon is simply a body guard and not Momonosuke's real father, and even if they are blood relatives then surely the Strawhats will need a Cabin Boy? Much alike the Roger Pirates with Buggy and Shanks.

Momo even draws Parallels with Buggy -> unintentionally eating a seemingly weak Devil Fruit
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: OG sama

Tomato God

Active member
Veteran
Joined
May 22, 2014
Messages
3,421
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Think about this thread. Replace everything you said but with momo's name and then add the fact that 29 - 29 can also be prounced as the sound effect for smiling meaning any smile fruit fits the numbers game

Momo and Kinemon are interchangable. Even Kinesuke is half momo and half kinemon.

They are probably the pair that oda refered to as join at one time.
 

Vandenre1ch

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 27, 2012
Messages
4,256
Kin
6💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
the 2,9 thing also means Paw Paw and Kuma is never gonna be a SH. You forget the number 0 which actually gives 0,2,9. It directly translates to "I AM SMOKER."

Imperial or not, Japanse and still Japanse. Kin'emon's and Zoro's attire are still very similar. Just a different color scheme.

Why would Kin'emon abonden his own son? Momonosuke definitely ain't gonna be a SH. If he's not the real father then just maybe...

Kin'emon's only real quirk is that he's a pervert....like Sanji, Brooke and Franky.

Zoro will learn to cut fire in Wano. Not only has he expressed in interest in fire cutting, Zoro is a demon asura. Demon asuras were known to use black flames.

Kin'emon has no prior foreshadowing for any SH. Chopper, Robin, Franky and Brooke were all foreshadowed by the first 4 recruits.

Oda expressed his desire to have a female melee fighter(who wields a weapon) and a logia be SHs. Kin'emon's chances are pretty slim especially considering that he's a swordsman.

What about Kin'emons color scheme? He wears peach, black and white and no SH has a multi-colored theme except Brooke and guess what? He's black and white.
 

WhistleBlower

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Apr 12, 2012
Messages
27,716
Kin
4,460💸
Kumi
1,041💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Regarding the nationalities. Its really sad that Oda hasnt introduced who should be australian. Imagine that, a freaken bogan in onepiece hahahhaa . They'd definitely have to a pirate as no bogan can be a marine XD ...i would say how about aboriginals, but that'd be racist now lol.
 

Tomato God

Active member
Veteran
Joined
May 22, 2014
Messages
3,421
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
the 2,9 thing also means Paw Paw and Kuma is never gonna be a SH. You forget the number 0 which actually gives 0,2,9. It directly translates to "I AM SMOKER."

Imperial or not, Japanse and still Japanse. Kin'emon's and Zoro's attire are still very similar. Just a different color scheme.

Why would Kin'emon abonden his own son? Momonosuke definitely ain't gonna be a SH. If he's not the real father then just maybe...

Kin'emon's only real quirk is that he's a pervert....like Sanji, Brooke and Franky.

Zoro will learn to cut fire in Wano. Not only has he expressed in interest in fire cutting, Zoro is a demon asura. Demon asuras were known to use black flames.

Kin'emon has no prior foreshadowing for any SH. Chopper, Robin, Franky and Brooke were all foreshadowed by the first 4 recruits.

Oda expressed his desire to have a female melee fighter(who wields a weapon) and a logia be SHs. Kin'emon's chances are pretty slim especially considering that he's a swordsman.

What about Kin'emons color scheme? He wears peach, black and white and no SH has a multi-colored theme except Brooke and guess what? He's black and white.
Oda also Expressed an idea for two characters to join at once
So why can't they both join
At bold

Thats just speculation and holds no more merit than the original post.


And for all we know Oda can decide to make Kinemon from korea or China or some other asian country.
 

Vandenre1ch

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 27, 2012
Messages
4,256
Kin
6💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Oda also Expressed an idea for two characters to join at once
So why can't they both join
At bold

Thats just speculation and holds no more merit than the original post.


And for all we know Oda can decide to make Kinemon from korea or China or some other asian country.
A lot of my speculation is based off evidences of Oda's constant and repeating SH recruiting patterns. The bolded is just a very minor saying Kin'emon wont be a SH.

You assume Oda would do something sloppy like change Kin'emon's nationally when he clearly already established him as being Japanese? Something like that is very sloppy and unlikely for Oda. It'll be the first time he does something like that. Kin'emon's color scheme is already taken by Brooke. That's not speculation and Oda makes all the SHs unigue and different.

Again. Neither Kinemon nor Momonosuke has any foreshadowing of recruitment by the other SHs. Not even before his introduction like Chopper, Robin, Franky and Brooke. It'll be the first time that pattern is broken if Kin'emon suddenly joins.
 

24 12 11 to troll

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 24, 2011
Messages
11,214
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
the 2,9 thing also means Paw Paw and Kuma is never gonna be a SH. You forget the number 0 which actually gives 0,2,9. It directly translates to "I AM SMOKER."
Interesting... but Kuma and Smoker would never join? Afterall - one's a f*cking weapon and the other's a Marine

Imperial or not, Japanse and still Japanse. Kin'emon's and Zoro's attire are still very similar. Just a different color scheme.
Kin'emon is from Wano, very much like Hokkaido in the sense it was closed doors and cut off from the world, we know this because of his references to "breast bands" and "magic fruits". Because of the disparity in modern knowledge being from Hokkaido fits the scheme.

Why would Kin'emon abonden his own son? Momonosuke definitely ain't gonna be a SH. If he's not the real father then just maybe...
They can both join? Why wouldn't Momonosuke join? He draws Parallels with Buggy -> a member of Rogers crew

Kin'emon's only real quirk is that he's a pervert....like Sanji, Brooke and Franky.
And a flatulist, and knows f*ck all about life in general

Zoro will learn to cut fire in Wano. Not only has he expressed in interest in fire cutting, Zoro is a demon asura. Demon asuras were known to use black flames.
That is not a certainty, just because he's interested doesn't mean he'll learn it, he was also interested in Kaku's four sword style, but he hasn't learnt it. Demon Asuras were known to use Black Lightning, Black Wind and Black Water too...

Kin'emon has no prior foreshadowing for any SH. Chopper, Robin, Franky and Brooke were all foreshadowed by the first 4 recruits.
And? Robin wasn't foreshadowed, but whatever; Only Zoro, Franky and Brook were foreshadowed, how was Chopper or Robin foreshadowed? Do tell.

Oda expressed his desire to have a female melee fighter(who wields a weapon) and a logia be SHs. Kin'emon's chances are pretty slim especially considering that he's a swordsman.
There's still a likelihood of that happening, doesn't mean Kin and Momo won't join

What about Kin'emons color scheme? He wears peach, black and white and no SH has a multi-colored theme except Brooke and guess what? He's black and white.
Oh colours now?
Luffy: Red and Blue
Zoro: Green
Nami: Orange
Usopp: No idea
Sanji: Yellow
Chopper: Pink
Robin: Purple
Franky Red and Blue
Brook: Black and White
Kin'emon: ORANGE, fire and Orange half of his Kimono
Momonosuke: Peach as is in his name

So you can see colour schemes do clash in the Strawhats; there's no reason a colour clash should stop him joining the crew
 

Vandenre1ch

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 27, 2012
Messages
4,256
Kin
6💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Interesting... but Kuma and Smoker would never join? Afterall - one's a f*cking weapon and the other's a Marine
Main reason Kuma would never join is because he is a cyborg. He already have Franky. I've always believed Smoker would join as he was foreshadowed by Sanji just like how Sanji foreshadowed Brooke. Smoker will defect from the marines. You can see that his faith and trust in the marines disappears bit by bit whenevers he'sapart of an arc. Alabasta, Marineford, Punk Hazard, etc..


Kin'emon is from Wano, very much like Hokkaido in the sense it was closed doors and cut off from the world, we know this because of his references to "breast bands" and "magic fruits". Because of the disparity in modern knowledge being from Hokkaido fits the scheme.
I ain't too comfortable with technicalities because then ANYONE will be a candidate for SH. Cut off or not, its still based on Imperial JAPAN. Not the mention that the SH nationalities STILL EXIST. Hokkaido is gone.

They can both join? Why wouldn't Momonosuke join? He draws Parallels with Buggy -> a member of Rogers crew
Because he's just a kid and brings NOTHING unigue to the SHs. Please not that none of the SHs are related to each to other(directly atleast). Momonosuke is just a comedic liability.


And a flatulist, and knows f*ck all about life in general
This made me laugh because its so true. But when learns more about life, wouldn't that quirk disappear? He needs a permanent quirk unique to his character.



That is not a certainty, just because he's interested doesn't mean he'll learn it, he was also interested in Kaku's four sword style, but he hasn't learnt it. Demon Asuras were known to use Black Lightning, Black Wind and Black Water too...
I know. Its just something minor.

And? Robin wasn't foreshadowed, but whatever; Only Zoro, Franky and Brook were foreshadowed, how was Chopper or Robin foreshadowed? Do tell.
East Blue
Zoro-1st male recruit
Nami-2nd female recruit
Usopp-3rd male recruit
Sanji-4th male recruit

Grand Line
Chopper-1st male recruit
Robin-2nd female recruit
Franky-3rd male recruit
Brooke-4th male recruit

The original 4 recruits of East Blue foreshadowed their respective Grand Line counter-parts.

Both Zoro Chopper were referred to as monsters(blood thirsty demon for Zoro, mountain snow monster for Chopper). Both Zoro and Chopper were introduced tied/restrained to something(Zoro tied to a pole, Chopper tied to a sleigh). Way back in the early east blue days, the SHs went to a medical clinic for Zoro's injures. The doctor there said that their crew should really get a doctor for someone like Zoro.

Both Nami and Robin were introduced as enemies of pirates. Both Nami and Robin at some point in time, wore Luffy's hat. Both Nami and Robin were temporary members of the SH crew. Both Nami and Robin became permanent members after a rescue arc with a time limit scenario(Luffy had to be saved before he drowned, Robin had to be saved before she got to the gates of justice). In a shop when Vivi was traveling with the SHs, Nami wore and showed off the EXACT SAME outfit Robin wore as Miss All Sunday before she was introduced.


There's still a likelihood of that happening, doesn't mean Kin and Momo won't join
I know but the chance is still very small.


Oh colours now?
Luffy: Red and Blue
Zoro: Green
Nami: Orange
Usopp: No idea
Sanji: Yellow
Chopper: Pink
Robin: Purple
Franky Red and Blue
Brook: Black and White
Kin'emon: ORANGE, fire and Orange half of his Kimono
Momonosuke: Peach as is in his name

So you can see colour schemes do clash in the Strawhats; there's no reason a colour clash should stop him joining the crew
Luffy: Red-Luffy pants frequently changes color from blue, black, yellow etc..
Zoro: Green
Nami: Orange
Usopp: Yellow
Sanji: Blue
Chopper: Pink
Robin: Violet
Franky: Cyan( a shade of light blue)
Brooke: Black and White
Kinemon: Black, White and Peach
Momonosuke: Peach
 
Last edited:

24 12 11 to troll

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 24, 2011
Messages
11,214
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Main reason Kuma would never join is because he is a cyborg. He already have Franky. I've always believed Smoker would join as he was foreshadowed by Sanji just like how Sanji foreshadowed Brooke. Smoker will defect from the marines. You can see that his faith and trust in the marines disappears bit by bit whenevers he'sapart of an arc. Alabasta, Marineford, Punk Hazard, etc..
How the f*ck was he foreshadowed? Have you ever read the Manga from chapter 0-now?

I ain't too comfortable with technicalities because then ANYONE will be a candidate for SH. Cut off or not, its still based on Imperial JAPAN. Not the mention that the SH nationalities STILL EXIST. Hokkaido is gone.
I guess you've never heard of the concept of time

Because he's just a kid and brings NOTHING unigue to the SHs. Please not that none of the SHs are related to each to other(directly atleast). Momonosuke is just a comedic liability.
Buggy brought nothing unique to the Roger Pirates and he was just a kid, Momonosuke is a comedic catalyst as he provokes reactions from the three major perverts (Sanji, Brook, Kin'emon)

This made me laugh because its so true. But when learns more about life, wouldn't that quirk disappear? He needs a permanent quirk unique to his character.
Flatulist. As i've mentioned four times in this thread thus far

I know. Its just something minor.
So technically Zoro is just as likely to use lightning, water or air as he is fire.

East Blue
Zoro-1st male recruit
Nami-2nd female recruit
Usopp-3rd male recruit
Sanji-4th male recruit

Grand Line
Chopper-1st male recruit
Robin-2nd female recruit
Franky-3rd male recruit
Brooke-4th male recruit

The original 4 recruits of East Blue foreshadowed their respective Grand Line counter-parts.
New World:
Kin'emon + Momonosuke male recruits
-female recruit-
Jinebe male recruit
-male recruit-

Both Zoro Chopper were referred to as monsters(blood thirsty demon for Zoro, mountain snow monster for Chopper). Both Zoro and Chopper were introduced tied/restrained to something(Zoro tied to a pole, Chopper tied to a sleigh). Way back in the early east blue days, the SHs went to a medical clinic for Zoro's injures. The doctor there said that their crew should really get a doctor for someone like Zoro.
Kin'emon was called a monster and Momonosuke believed he transformed into a monster. Kin'emon draws the swordsman parallel with Zoro and Momonosuke draws the zoan parallel with Chopper

Both Nami and Robin were introduced as enemies of pirates. Both Nami and Robin at some point in time, wore Luffy's hat. Both Nami and Robin were temporary members of the SH crew. Both Nami and Robin became permanent members after a rescue arc with a time limit scenario(Luffy had to be saved before he drowned, Robin had to be saved before she got to the gates of justice). In a shop when Vivi was traveling with the SHs, Nami wore and showed off the EXACT SAME outfit Robin wore as Miss All Sunday before she was introduced.
That's not foreshadowing, that's drawing parallels after they were both on the same ship.

I know but the chance is still very small.
He can still add female melee member/s later

Luffy: Red-Luffy pants frequently changes color from blue, black, yellow etc..
I think you'll find that's the colour of his shirt:
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images

His shirt and shorts always change, predominantly blue shorts with a red shirt though.

Zoro: Green
Nami: Orange
Usopp: Yellow
Sanji: Blue
Chopper: Pink
Robin: Violet
Franky: Cyan( a shade of light blue)
Brooke: Black and White
@ bold: Franky has ALWAYS been wearing red with blue hair; hence, blue and red, matching Luffy's colour scheme
Usopp has only been wearing yellow since the timeskip, that is false, unlike Sanji whos theme is yellow as he has blonde hair and his fire attacks give a yellow appearance, even then; if Sanji was blue and Franky was blue that would also be a colour clash, so even if I'm wrong and you're right the colour schemes don't mean shit.

Kinemon: Black, White and Peach
Momonosuke: Peach
Kin'emon the Foxfire -
-Foxes are Orange
-Fire is Orange
-His Kimono is predominantly Orange
You must be registered for see images

Momonosuke:
-Momo means peach, hence his scheme is peach
-His Dragon form is peach in colour
You must be registered for see images
 
Last edited:

Tomato God

Active member
Veteran
Joined
May 22, 2014
Messages
3,421
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
How the f*ck was he foreshadowed? Have you ever read the Manga from chapter 0-now?


I guess you've never heard of the concept of time


Buggy brought nothing unique to the Roger Pirates and he was just a kid, Momonosuke is a comedic catalyst as he provokes reactions from the three major perverts (Sanji, Brook, Kin'emon)


Flatulist. As i've mentioned four times in this thread thus far


So technically Zoro is just as likely to use lightning, water or air as he is fire.


New World:
Kin'emon + Momonosuke male recruits
-female recruit-
Jinebe male recruit
-male recruit-


Kin'emon was called a monster and Momonosuke believed he transformed into a monster. Kin'emon draws the swordsman parallel with Zoro and Momonosuke draws the zoan parallel with Chopper


That's not foreshadowing, that's drawing parallels after they were both on the same ship.


He can still add female melee member/s later


I think you'll find that's the colour of his shirt:
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images

His shirt and shorts always change, predominantly blue shorts with a red shirt though.


@ bold: Franky has ALWAYS been wearing red with blue hair; hence, blue and red, matching Luffy's colour scheme
Usopp has only been wearing yellow since the timeskip, that is false, unlike Sanji whos theme is yellow as he has blonde hair and his fire attacks give a yellow appearance, even then; if Sanji was blue and Franky was blue that would also be a colour clash, so even if I'm wrong and you're right the colour schemes don't mean shit.


Kin'emon the Foxfire -
-Foxes are Orange
-Fire is Orange
-His Kimono is predominantly Orange
You must be registered for see images

Momonosuke:
-Momo means peach, hence his scheme is peach
-His Dragon form is peach in colour
You must be registered for see images
Kinemon can be brown .(A darker shade of orange) While momo can be peach an (orangy pink)
 

Vandenre1ch

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 27, 2012
Messages
4,256
Kin
6💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
How the f*ck was he foreshadowed? Have you ever read the Manga from chapter 0-now?


I guess you've never heard of the concept of time


Buggy brought nothing unique to the Roger Pirates and he was just a kid, Momonosuke is a comedic catalyst as he provokes reactions from the three major perverts (Sanji, Brook, Kin'emon)


Flatulist. As i've mentioned four times in this thread thus far


So technically Zoro is just as likely to use lightning, water or air as he is fire.


New World:
Kin'emon + Momonosuke male recruits
-female recruit-
Jinebe male recruit
-male recruit-


Kin'emon was called a monster and Momonosuke believed he transformed into a monster. Kin'emon draws the swordsman parallel with Zoro and Momonosuke draws the zoan parallel with Chopper


That's not foreshadowing, that's drawing parallels after they were both on the same ship.


He can still add female melee member/s later


I think you'll find that's the colour of his shirt:
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images

His shirt and shorts always change, predominantly blue shorts with a red shirt though.


@ bold: Franky has ALWAYS been wearing red with blue hair; hence, blue and red, matching Luffy's colour scheme
Usopp has only been wearing yellow since the timeskip, that is false, unlike Sanji whos theme is yellow as he has blonde hair and his fire attacks give a yellow appearance, even then; if Sanji was blue and Franky was blue that would also be a colour clash, so even if I'm wrong and you're right the colour schemes don't mean shit.


Kin'emon the Foxfire -
-Foxes are Orange
-Fire is Orange
-His Kimono is predominantly Orange
You must be registered for see images

Momonosuke:
-Momo means peach, hence his scheme is peach
-His Dragon form is peach in colour
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images



You must be registered for see images


As I said before, Sanji is blue and Usopp is yellow.


Lufft pans changes color also. In Enies Lobby, Luffy ***** a red shirt and black pants. All of the SHs are represented by a SINGLE color. I said Brooke is black and white since he's always wearing a mix of both.

So...you just brush aside all that Robin foreshadowing as simple drawing parallels? Just mere coincidence? What about Usopp and Franky both being touble makers in their respective towns? Both getting into a serious fight with Luffy? Usopp saying that he's not a shipwright and he's help with the ship? Them joining the SHs AFTER they got a new ship?(Merry for Usopp, Sunny for Franky) Is that just a coincidence as well?

Kin'emon was never introduced tied to something or restrained though. Also, Luffy never directly saved something precious for Kinemon(not yet atleast). Luffy saved Zoro swords and Dr. Hiliuk's flag.

Both Sanji, Brooke an dSmoker were introduced with something that produces smoke. Smoker is the only person in OP who smokes multiple cigars at once and in Sabody, Sanji for the first and only time smoked multiple cigars and told Duval "What the hell is this disgusting list?" Sounds eerily similar to something Smoker would say.
 

24 12 11 to troll

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 24, 2011
Messages
11,214
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
You must be registered for see images



You must be registered for see images


As I said before, Sanji is blue and Usopp is yellow.


Lufft pans changes color also. In Enies Lobby, Luffy ***** a red shirt and black pants. All of the SHs are represented by a SINGLE color. I said Brooke is black and white since he's always wearing a mix of both.

So...you just brush aside all that Robin foreshadowing as simple drawing parallels? Just mere coincidence? What about Usopp and Franky both being touble makers in their respective towns? Both getting into a serious fight with Luffy? Usopp saying that he's not a shipwright and he's help with the ship? Them joining the SHs AFTER they got a new ship?(Merry for Usopp, Sunny for Franky) Is that just a coincidence as well?

Kin'emon was never introduced tied to something or restrained though. Also, Luffy never directly saved something precious for Kinemon(not yet atleast). Luffy saved Zoro swords and Dr. Hiliuk's flag.

Both Sanji, Brooke an dSmoker were introduced with something that produces smoke. Smoker is the only person in OP who smokes multiple cigars at once and in Sabody, Sanji for the first and only time smoked multiple cigars and told Duval "What the hell is this disgusting list?" Sounds eerily similar to something Smoker would say.
So basically what you've just said here is that I'm technically correct in the fact colour schemes do not matter, and Kin'emon is definitely Orange and not Peach.

Kin'emon is introduced to be tied to Wanokuni, a feudal nation and therefore probably very hardline because of it.

Uhm, pretty sure lots of characters have been unveiled by a cloud of smoke, hahaha
 

Tomato God

Active member
Veteran
Joined
May 22, 2014
Messages
3,421
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
You must be registered for see images



You must be registered for see images


As I said before, Sanji is blue and Usopp is yellow.


Lufft pans changes color also. In Enies Lobby, Luffy ***** a red shirt and black pants. All of the SHs are represented by a SINGLE color. I said Brooke is black and white since he's always wearing a mix of both.

So...you just brush aside all that Robin foreshadowing as simple drawing parallels? Just mere coincidence? What about Usopp and Franky both being touble makers in their respective towns? Both getting into a serious fight with Luffy? Usopp saying that he's not a shipwright and he's help with the ship? Them joining the SHs AFTER they got a new ship?(Merry for Usopp, Sunny for Franky) Is that just a coincidence as well?

Kin'emon was never introduced tied to something or restrained though. Also, Luffy never directly saved something precious for Kinemon(not yet atleast). Luffy saved Zoro swords and Dr. Hiliuk's flag.

Both Sanji, Brooke an dSmoker were introduced with something that produces smoke. Smoker is the only person in OP who smokes multiple cigars at once and in Sabody, Sanji for the first and only time smoked multiple cigars and told Duval "What the hell is this disgusting list?" Sounds eerily similar to something Smoker would say.
Nami also Was wearing boa's first outfit Is boa gonna join?

Smoker also has spent his entire panel time hunting luffy and then helping him. Not something he can just stop doing at this point. Plus what is he gonna do with the men from the G-5?!
And then Double what is he gonna do about Tashigi who's dream is to take every great sword from pirates.
 

Vandenre1ch

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 27, 2012
Messages
4,256
Kin
6💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
So basically what you've just said here is that I'm technically correct in the fact colour schemes do not matter, and Kin'emon is definitely Orange and not Peach.

Kin'emon is introduced to be tied to Wanokuni, a feudal nation and therefore probably very hardline because of it.

Uhm, pretty sure lots of characters have been unveiled by a cloud of smoke, hahaha
Did you not understand what I said? Every SH has a single color they are represented by. It can be a different shade(Sanji and Franky) but never the exact same color. Kin'emon cannot be orange because Nami is orange. Peach is ok but you said that's Momonosuke.

Zoro and Chopper were introduced PHYSICALLY tied up/restrained. Like how Jinbe was introduced tied up and restrained in Impel Down. Viewed as a monster, has a long term goal, synergy with the SHs, Luffy directly saved his precious FI and Neptune, color scheme is Magneta( a shade of orange), Jinbe is a lock for the first male recruit in the NW.


Nami also Was wearing boa's first outfit Is boa gonna join?

Smoker also has spent his entire panel time hunting luffy and then helping him. Not something he can just stop doing at this point. Plus what is he gonna do with the men from the G-5?!
And then Double what is he gonna do about Tashigi who's dream is to take every great sword from pirates.
Nami wore Hancock's outfit? When? Besides, Boa loves Luffy and Oda isn't a fan of romance especially among the SHs.

Smoker's view of the WG gets weaker and weaker every time Luffy and him is involved with something. Smoker's gonna defect especially under Akainu's command. Smoker is gonna be a Rev first though and I see him as the final SH recruit.

Tashigi is gonna be the second female recruit. Tashigi wants to collect all the swords from BAD GUYS. Not necessarily pirates. Nami only wore reading glasses once in the seires and they were eerily similar to Tashigi's glasses. Her own quirks, a female melee fighter, completes the swordsman trio, has a long term goal, a color scheme(Indigo, a shade of purple) and a wavering view on the WG. Hell, she begged Nami, a pirate, to let her have the kids and Nami was reminded of Bellemere because of her.
 

24 12 11 to troll

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Dec 24, 2011
Messages
11,214
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Did you not understand what I said? Every SH has a single color they are represented by. It can be a different shade(Sanji and Franky) but never the exact same color. Kin'emon cannot be orange because Nami is orange. Peach is ok but you said that's Momonosuke.
Well that colourscheme bullshit is clearly wrong then, isn't it?

Zoro and Chopper were introduced PHYSICALLY tied up/restrained. Like how Jinbe was introduced tied up and restrained in Impel Down. Viewed as a monster, has a long term goal, synergy with the SHs, Luffy directly saved his precious FI and Neptune, color scheme is Magneta( a shade of orange), Jinbe is a lock for the first male recruit in the NW.
Kin'emon and Momonosuke were both introduced as being imprisoned.
 

Vandenre1ch

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 27, 2012
Messages
4,256
Kin
6💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Strawhats, because they CLASH.

Do you know what imprisonment is?
Its the official color scheme Oda uses. I don't see any problem with it...like at all.

Do you know what being tied up/restrained is? Kinemon was simply a head in jail and Momonosuke was simply in a scrap heap. Zoro and Chopper were first revealed tied up and same thing goes for Jinbe.
 

Tomato God

Active member
Veteran
Joined
May 22, 2014
Messages
3,421
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Its the official color scheme Oda uses. I don't see any problem with it...like at all.

Do you know what being tied up/restrained is? Kinemon was simply a head in jail and Momonosuke was simply in a scrap heap. Zoro and Chopper were first revealed tied up and same thing goes for Jinbe.
Kinemon was BOUND to a dragon.

And His son Momo was trapped in a lab.

Thats way more "Chained" than chopper was. Chopper was roaming around with Doc Trenu.
 
Top