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many people around the base claim this naruto had an ashura cloak

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but if you looking at the two things they are totaly different! I have never seen a bijju like the cloack on ashura! maybe it could be the juubi cloack but I doubt!

my question is could it be possible that the cloack was entirely ashura chackra
 

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It is speculated that Ashura's Chakra makes it the "golden cloak", but Minato having the same thing culls that idea. Kurama's chakra "purified" must be the golden/yellow/w/e colour it is Chakra, and Naruto's Avatar is merely his avatar, and two Kage Bunshin of the Avatar all which absorbed a ridiculous amount of Nature Chakra and merged.
 

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doubt kishi showed us the ashura cloak, revealed naruto was ashura's reincarnation, then had naruto use the technique just for the heck of it. naruto's just looks unstable and ashura's stabilized. nearly completely identical. was naruto's first attempt, so it was shaky. probably perfect it by part 3.
 

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doubt kishi showed us the ashura cloak, revealed naruto was ashura's reincarnation, then had naruto use the technique just for the heck of it. naruto's just looks unstable and ashura's stabilized. nearly completely identical. was naruto's first attempt, so it was shaky. probably perfect it by part 3.

oh so you one of those who hope for part 3! kishi will be dead by then
 

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many people around the base claim this naruto had an ashura cloak

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but if you looking at the two things they are totaly different! I have never seen a bijju like the cloack on ashura! maybe it could be the juubi cloack but I doubt!

my question is could it be possible that the cloack was entirely ashura chackra
Stop with this non sense.
 

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Well Hagoromo stated that Ashura was the reason that he created the Bijuu in the first place. I believe Ashura, like Naruto, got along with them.

So my assumption would be that in his fight against Indra, the Bijuu lent their power to Ashura.

Those black orbs are either the Gudoudama or TBB. Both of which require bijuu chakra, which would also explain the appearance.



As a side note, this would also mean that Indra was powerful enough to tie Ashura in battle since it was stated that both of their bodies were destroyed.
 
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many people around the base claim this naruto had an ashura cloak

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but if you looking at the two things they are totaly different! I have never seen a bijju like the cloack on ashura! maybe it could be the juubi cloack but I doubt!

my question is could it be possible that the cloack was entirely ashura chackra
Stop with this non sense.
hey you newbie shut your trap
 

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I think Ashura managed to stabilized his Kurama Avatar and using Rikudou power proficiently in his last fight against Indra before they both destroyed.

And also I think Hagoromo already dead at that time but still able to witnessed their fight from space/time dimension.

That's mean Ashura has borrowed Kurama chakra and merge him with his Rikudou power and as the result Full Kurama Avatar with Rikudou power for Ashura.

For Naruto, he still new with all this thing
 

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I think Ashura managed to stabilized his Kurama Avatar and using Rikudou power proficiently in his last fight against Indra before they both destroyed.

And also I think Hagoromo already dead at that time but still able to witnessed their fight from space/time dimension.

That's mean Ashura has borrowed Kurama chakra and merge him with his Rikudou power and as the result Full Kurama Avatar with Rikudou power for Ashura.

For Naruto, he still new with all this thing
borrowed kurama ????? that thing looks nothing like kurama!

I think that's his chakra (rikodou chakra)
 

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Yeah, that cloak is indeed ashura's chakra. He's the son of the sage afterall.
 

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borrowed kurama ????? that thing looks nothing like kurama!

I think that's his chakra (rikodou chakra)

But that Avatar got a number of tails and had similar form like Naruto Avatar.

If that Avatar created by Ashura power only, why need to look like Kurama Avatar of Naruto for 90%?

Why Ashura not create Avatar similar like PS or other form that's not Bijuu form?

Can you explain it.
 

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many people around the base claim this naruto had an ashura cloak

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but if you looking at the two things they are totaly different! I have never seen a bijju like the cloack on ashura! maybe it could be the juubi cloack but I doubt!

my question is could it be possible that the cloack was entirely ashura chackra

I would assume that the Ashura cloak is a composite of all Nine Bijuus merging their powers. At that point, Naruto had only Yang Kuruma, whereas the other Bijuus where with Sasuke. By absorbing Natural Energy, which is a part of the Juubi (Juubi's Energy = Natural Energy = Bijuu's Powers), Naruto was able to fill out the missing Bijuu chakra and form an incomplete Ashura Chakra Cloak.

The reason why the Naruto's avatar has Kuruma heads is because Naruto only had Yang Kuruma by that point. And No, Your comparison between the two shows that both are very similar and you can state Naruto's as "Unstabilised" whereas Ashura's as "Stabilized" using Susanoo as a template.
 

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It is speculated that Ashura's Chakra makes it the "golden cloak", but Minato having the same thing culls that idea. Kurama's chakra "purified" must be the golden/yellow/w/e colour it is Chakra, and Naruto's Avatar is merely his avatar, and two Kage Bunshin of the Avatar all which absorbed a ridiculous amount of Nature Chakra and merged.

Actually I think the golden cloak comes not from Ashura's chakara, but I think Kurama had a little of Hagoromo's chakara inside of him. Here is why: When Hagoromo appeared before the edo hokages, he said that he was able to appear from Madara because Madara had assimilated Indra's, Ashura's and Kurama's chakaras.
 

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Ashura's had a cape by the look of it.
 

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Well Hagoromo stated that Ashura was the reason that he created the Bijuu in the first place. I believe Ashura, like Naruto, got along with them.

So my assumption would be that in his fight against Indra, the Bijuu lent their power to Ashura.

Those black orbs are either the Gudoudama or TBB. Both of which require bijuu chakra, which would also explain the appearance.



As a side note, this would also mean that Indra was powerful enough to tie Ashura in battle since it was stated that both of their bodies were destroyed.

Hagoromo before becoming the Jyubi jin had TSB's...
 

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It has three heads and three arms, it's an Asura kyuubi cloak.

Like Sasuke to Indra, their Asura/Susanoo is not going to look the same as their predecessors.

Ashura didn't have any bijuus within in, so he is bond to look different.
 

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Hagoromo before becoming the Jyubi jin had TSB's...

That's because Kaguya ate the Shinju's Fruit and became one with the Shinju creating the Juubi. The power of the Juubi was inherited by her sons, Hagoromo and Hamura.
 

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It is speculated that Ashura's Chakra makes it the "golden cloak", but Minato having the same thing culls that idea. Kurama's chakra "purified" must be the golden/yellow/w/e colour it is Chakra, and Naruto's Avatar is merely his avatar, and two Kage Bunshin of the Avatar all which absorbed a ridiculous amount of Nature Chakra and merged.

I agree , this cloak must be Kurama's cloak when he allows the jinchuriki to use his chakra.

Given that Minato had that cloak and wasn't a transmigrant , it can't be a power of Ashura himself , but a power of someone that is cooperating with him , someone like baby Kurama.

The fact that Kurama was very young could explain the differences between Ashura's 3 headed avatar and Naruto's 3 headed avatar.
 
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