[Question] How strong is "prime" Tsuru?

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Doflamingo negged a VA like smoker

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, But he wanted no part in fighting an elderly Tsuru!

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How powerful was she in her prime? Imo she was probably close to grap and sengoku in strength.
 

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Or maybe Doflamingo wasn't in his prime then?
 

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Doflamingo already had his ultimate move back then(bird cage), so he was pretty strong already, albeit it was town level instead of island level. Not to mention she was always close to Garp and Sengoku and even much older she was mocking Doflamingo during the shichibukai summit and during the war wiped the floor with multiple Whitebeard pirates while leaving the war unharmed. Pretty sure she is among the strongest VA. I think only Garp and maybe John Giant are above her in her prime. The rest are weaker, at least from what we know
 

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Back at that time I actually think Doflamingo made more of a wise and strategic choice. He wasn't up against only Tsuru, but her whole fleet. He also had comrades to think for, including kids. IMO he could actually have beaten her with high-extreme difficulty.

Now OT, I think that Prime Tsuru is like low-mid admiral level. Probably a bit stronger than Doflamingo. About Marco level I'd say. I don't think she was as strong as Sengoku or Garp. v_v
 

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In fairness Smoker was injured when he was attacked by Doflamingo...I doubt it would have been a neg diff fight if Smoker had been at 100%.

However I think some people maybe overhyping Tsuru...I doubt Doflamingo was anywhere near as experienced as he was back then to what he is now. Now I'm not saying Tsuru is weak I'm just saying just because one character walks away doesn't mean they're weaker.
 

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In fairness Smoker was injured when he was attacked by Doflamingo...I doubt it would have been a neg diff fight if Smoker had been at 100%.
Doubtful:

 

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Doubtful:


I get your point but if you actually read the panels it has nothing to do with healing one's body but rather recover stamina. I forgot Sanji's cooking makes all damage negated. I suppose the crew won't be needing Chopper anymore with Sanji's ability of healing. After taking multiple Haki blows from a Haki monster like Vergo it would take more than just some food to completely recover...think you're underrating Smoker a little here...as usual.

Not saying Smoker would win however I think he'd have been able to put up a better fight had he been at 100% and also had his primary weapon, I'm leaning to a low - mid diff fight I'm more inclined to go with a high low diff battle however.
 
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I get your point but if you actually read the panels it has nothing to do with healing one's body but rather recover stamina. I forgot Sanji's cooking makes all damage negated. I suppose the crew won't be needing Chopper anymore with Sanji's ability of healing. After taking multiple Haki blows from a Haki monster like Vergo it would take more than just some food to completely recover...think you're underrating Smoker a little here...as usual.
Read the second page i linked. Kinemon says his strength is returning. It's not just stamina

Also oh please, just stop getting defensive on any Smoker subject? I was only replying to your post about a matter i wasn't certain myself, hence i used the term "doubtful"
 

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Read the second page i linked. Kinemon says his strength is returning. It's not just stamina

Also oh please, just stop getting defensive on any Smoker subject? I was only replying to your post about a matter i wasn't certain myself, hence i used the term "doubtful"

Again, strength isn't the same as healing one's body...I mean Kinemon to my knowledge wasn't injured during Punk Hazard was he? Other than the irrelevant Sanji comedic scenes by strength I think it implies he was talking about his stamina rather than his physical condition.
 

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In the flashback Doffy was 28 and Tsuru was 65. Doffy birdcage in the flashback could only cover an entire town but in the present, it can cover an entire country. Doflamingo clearly got stronger while Tsuru got weaker. Anyways, Tsuru is a special VA just like Garp and she was probably a serious threat for someone of Doffy's level back then.

Doffy is currently 41 and Tsuru is 78 incase you wanted to know. She's 5 years older than Garp and Sengoku.....damn shes old....shes 8 years older than LAO G!
 

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I think, Tsuru to Garp is similar with Hina to Smoker.

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