This is just your assumption though..Nothing in that scan shows he just learned it especially on the the day of the Prem which throw s away that assumption.
There was a big hint he had it during the prep but was still hiding his full power
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Even if I give you the benefit of doubt, that doesn't even change Gai's statement since Neji cannot react to the speed to rotate when it comes at him
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I never said he learned it at that exact point but was training to attain/perfect it in the 2 months period between the prelims and finals similarly to sasuke/naruto with their training tho as u said its still a asumption so i will concede that point.
Yes , neji cannot "Physically" defend from such speeds , hence why gai said its a taijutsu that cant even be touched ," No way the sand can keep up"
The shield creates a valid defense since he creates a barrier between himself and the attacker , and unlike the sand it can be expeled from the users body at anytime he wishes and wont trail behind like gaara's sand.
Based on all noted examples of how kaiten works the shield is always described as wat stops/catches the attack , while the spin is always noted to "Repel" or knock away said attack , thats the simple function we were always given and based on that i can deduce that the shield should be capable of blocking the hits similarly to gaara's sand if it could "keep up".
It becomes no limit fallacy when you give the shield the ability to stop every attack without Neji being pushed or harmed. The spin makes it stronger not the shield itself. A punch would send him flying of he doesn't spin.
I never said he could not be pushed/harmed , the spin "Repels" while the shield "Stops"
Why would u assume that the spin if done on time could do its job by repeling them , yet refuse to consider the shield doing its primary function?
It was nevet noted that the spin makes it stronger , only that it repels after the shield stops the attack.
The large amount of chakra expeled is wat creates the stopping defense , then by rotating that same thick chakra they repel the attacks.
So why then did Neji have to spin every time when he could be hit from his blindspot? Why didn't he just stand for there shield to stop Kidomaru's arrows rather than rotate and have his blindspot attacked? He has to rotate whether or not to shield can intercept or else the enemy easily counters him.
Not to mention Neji releases a high amount while holding that up so Lee easily counters as Neji can't leave that shield on for a long period.
This scan proves neji never needed to rotate in order to "stop" most of kido's initial attacks/daggers
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By the time kido's arrow came into play neji was already badly injured and it became a dying pain for him to continually expel large amounts of chakra.
Be warned , im not taking into consideration neji's plot limitations of needin to spin or stay in one spot during his fight with kido , im using noted abilities and obvious capabilities which were already noted multiple times in manga and databook since their limits (hyuga ) were never shown.
All he would need to do is outlast the gates with his chakra shield which is enough to make it high diff even if he fails to completely outlast it.
Gaara's sand defend from what pounding? Because it was getting destroyed before the 5th Gate came out. Gaara had to switch rather than defend to evade primary lotus so how is his armor protecting him from a stronger attack? Not to mention Gaara's sand armor although is weaker than Kaiten, it's still in the same league and definitely not far off so nothing implies that Kaiten would completely save Neji when Gai said HL is the answer to beating Neji.
Getting destroyed and bein destroyed is not the same thing , gaara's armor defended him from lee's*gated punches and it can be asumed that his auto defense if it were able to "keep up" would do even better.
Your asking me how gaara's armor would have protected gaara from a stronger attack if he needed to switch for a weaker one (primary lotus ) , yet it did protect protect gaara from the full assault only needin to soften the fall by turning his gourd into sand meanin the armor did its job up until that point.
By expeling chakra neji can replicate this feat more effectively and tho it would take alot of chakra it would still serve its purpose in the end which is to reduce/block the damage from the assualt.
That same databook info u posted cements my theory :
"A taijutsu where one releases a large amount of chakra from their body's chakra openings to catch the blows from an enemy's attacks, while making one's body spin to repel them "
If gaara's sand or sand armor can defend against the gates , then its only logical to think that neji could do the same or even better using his defense
Im not saying it would completely save neji , but can be used to "survive" outlast the assault.
Neji does not need to "repel" the attacks , only block/catch.
You're mixing things around...If according to you the shield is all it takes, why then does whether it's incomplete even factor in?
Anyways, He did a 360 spin and as shown with what was created, there's no doubt that he spun. Not to mention there's hardly anything convincing that him still spinning would have stopped it.
Simple , to fully repel the attack/advance and add to the repeling power he needs to spin or be in a spining motion (blur ).
Its obvious he spun , no doubt , but its even more obvious that the kaiten was imcomplete hence the Giant gaps in the chakra dome cemented by that "red line" used to show that he rotated.
If the chakra pushed it back, how much more would a punch that was enhanced by the chakra? Which is pretty much the same case for Lee.
Lee in gates has no chakra cloak which can expand to match the dome but let me ask u this , if this punch which same as lee is enhanced by chakra connected with the same imperfect kaiten , would it have the same results as kuramas chakra burst?
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Gated lee is powerful no doubt but there is no proof he could trouble kaiten the same way naruto did using kuramas chakra cloak.
Like I said, reactions is what matters and this and you very well missed the point. Hiashi can track hypersonic speed? Can he react to that speed? Show me that as well. You're giving that dome no limits and based on the feats I've shown, that shield gets bypassed or rather Hiashi is sent flying if he's just holding up that thin Chakra. Eventually after rotating the first time, Gai easily exploits the stopping process.
He cant physicaly react but can react by expeling chakra , im not speaking of a thin layer , im speaking of a intense focused burst and here is proof it can be done and maintained , no rotation crater present meaning neji simply stood in place while the chakra protected him
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If u can assume that the spin would be capable of doing its job by "repeling " the attacks if successful , then why cant i assume the shield would do its own job which is to stop/catch the attack?
Even if they get sent flying , the chakra itself would still come between the attacks no matter wat and would reduce damage which is wat im saying.
Vacuum palm? Definitely not a smart choice in a close range fight. If they use it from a distance, then sure but Gai can easily cover the distance and overwhelm Hiashi in a CQC.
I respect yours as well.
U brought up the ranged peacock so i gave u a counter , i agree that gai would overwhelm hiashi but it does not he he cant defend and reduce damage done to himself even if he loses in the end high diff.
We agree on the outcome but not the difficulty Lol.
