Would Naruto have defeated Pain if he had no intel?

[Jɑégar]

Just like Jiraya, he faces them without knowing anything about them. Would the outcome be the same?

 

[Laraib]

He wouldn't have managed to kill Tendou without the interval thing.

 

[Aznkidd]

Well he already had clones for experience, and he is good to observe thing too so it may takes a little bit longer.

 

[Goetia]

No. Naruto with intel was defeated by Pein in the end, only the Kyuubi's intervention saved him. Naruto's impending loss would only be hastened.

 

[YellowFang]

He could have hardly get two or three paths... Because with 'Linked-Vision' intact, Naruto can't land a hit easily and Naruto, in the end is neither enough experienced nor bright enough to figure it out himself...
P.S.
5 sec interval thing that came from Kakashi's intel, well he couldn't have make far enough to go against Tendo...

 

[Honord Sage]

Just like Jiraya, he faces them without knowing anything about them. Would the outcome be the same?

Let me let you in on a Secret, Naruto is the star of the Manga and the plot was for Naruto to win not lose.

 

[Shruikan]

Pain himself claimed that had Jiraiya known about his secrets he would have won the battle.Naruto knew about them and hence he won

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Naruto couldn't defeat Pain with Intel, do you know how stupid your question sounds?

 

[Jɑégar]

He could have hardly get two or three paths... Because with 'Linked-Vision' intact, Naruto can't land a hit easily and Naruto, in the end is neither enough experienced nor bright enough to figure it out himself...
P.S.
5 sec interval thing that came from Kakashi's intel, well he couldn't have make far enough to go against Tendo...

I somehow agree with this.

Let me let you in on a Secret, Naruto is the star of the Manga and the plot was for Naruto to win not lose.

Lel, I knew, but what if there was no plot, like Naruto can die?

Pain himself claimed that had Jiraiya known about his secrets he would have won the battle.Naruto knew about them and hence he won

Did he really say that?? I didn't see that tho!

Naruto couldn't defeat Pain with Intel, do you know how stupid your question sounds?

You're the only one who said it's stupid tho! Others are okay with it Well, anyways, thanx for ur answer

 

[Ambivalence]

No. There were alot of factors that helped Naruto bring down Pain, and if even one of them was missing the outcome wouldn't have been the same.

Naruto wasn't supposed to ''truly'' defeat him anyways. His fight with Pain was paralleled with Sasuke's fight with Itachi, who also couldn't defeat his opponent. Pain and Itachi were the obstacles that needed to be overcome by the heroes, one way or another, in order for Naruto and Sasuke to grow and fulfill their biggest and most important goal thus far.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

You're the only one who said it's stupid tho! Others are okay with it Well, anyways, thanx for ur answer

Dude, Naruto lost the fight before Hinata came for his butt :|
Even with Intel Naruto lost high-diff.
Take away the Intel and he loses low-diff.

Sorry for the strong language tho Lol

 

[Amaterasu]

He would have beat Pain, yes, and with Senjutsu, he could have sensed Nagato in his cave

 

[Meee]

No difference

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[Jɑégar]

No. There were alot of factors that helped Naruto bring down Pain, and if even one of them was missing the outcome wouldn't have been the same.

Naruto wasn't supposed to ''truly'' defeat him anyways. His fight with Pain was paralleled with Sasuke's fight with Itachi, who also couldn't defeat his opponent. Pain and Itachi were the obstacles that needed to be overcome by the heroes, one way or another, in order for Naruto and Sasuke to grow and fulfill their biggest and most important goal thus far.

Wow man! I never thought of it this way O_O Thanx for sharing this.

Dude, Naruto lost the fight before Hinata came for his butt :|
Even with Intel Naruto lost high-diff.
Take away the Intel and he loses low-diff.

Sorry for the strong language tho Lol

Lel np
I considered the Kyuubi a part of Naruto in the fight, so I thought that he didn't lose when he was impaled. That's why I asked Lol

He would have beat Pain, yes, and with Senjutsu, he could have sensed Nagato in his cave

But, how?

 

[Torche]

No. Naruto with intel was defeated by Pein in the end, only the Kyuubi's intervention saved him. Naruto's impending loss would only be hastened.

This exactly. Majority of the time whenever Naruto gets in a pickle, Kurama is there. Lol

 

[Shruikan]

Did he really say that?? I didn't see that tho!

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Deva Path says "If we hadnt kept our secret,we would have never won"

 

[Amaterasu]

But, how?

he didn't used intel that much for beating five of the six bodies of Nagato, the plot would have ended it (Hinata coming, Minato, etc)

 

[Torche]

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Deva Path says "If we hadnt kept our secret,we would have never won"

The next lot of text. :| It's hype. Either way Jiraiya gets shat on via the 6pop.

 

[Romy9]

Many people forget that Naruto achieved SM in a very short amount of time. His disadvantage was inexperience. Intel or not, he had balls to take him on.

 

[Blejziken]

Naruto garbage.