[Discussion] Pica Army vs Diamante Army vs Trebol Army

Which team?

  • Pica Army

    Votes: 10 62.5%
  • Diamanté Army

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • Trebol Army

    Votes: 1 6.3%

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Uzumaki Macho

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Pica Army:
Pica
Gladius
Baby 5
Buffalo

Diamanté Army:
Diamanté
Lao G
Dellinger
Señor Pink
Machvise

Trebol Army:
Trebol
Sugar
Jora
Violet
Which team wins? I think the Pica Army wins.
 

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Diamante army wins

Senor Pink can swim through Pica until he finds the real body, and Pink stood toe to toe with Franky, metal is stronger than rock.
I still stand by Vise beating Gladius and even if he can't Diamante, Vise, Dellinger and Lao G could bum rush him and remove him from the equation.
Buffalo wouldn't put up much fight Dellinger could take him out.
Lao G can beat baby 5 if in his super mode(forget name)
 

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Diamante army wins

Senor Pink can swim through Pica until he finds the real body, and Pink stood toe to toe with Franky, metal is stronger than rock.
I still stand by Vise beating Gladius and even if he can't Diamante, Vise, Dellinger and Lao G could bum rush him and remove him from the equation.
Buffalo wouldn't put up much fight Dellinger could take him out.
Lao G can beat baby 5 if in his super mode(forget name)
Gladius starts Punk Rock Fest. Then, Gladius and Baby 5 get on Buffalo and fly away from the explosion's range. Pica manipulates the ground around it and traps everyone else within the explosion's range. Pica, Gladius, and Baby 5 janitor the survivors. ROFL seriously??? Gladius low diffs Machvise.
 

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Gladius starts Punk Rock Fest. Then, Gladius and Baby 5 get on Buffalo and fly away from the explosion's range. Pica manipulates the ground around it and traps everyone else within the explosion's range. Pica, Gladius, and Baby 5 janitor the survivors. ROFL seriously??? Gladius low diffs Machvise.
Diamante could just make the ground ripple negating Gladius Punk Rock Fest. We've been over this simply saying someone beats someone else doesn't make it a fact it makes it your unbending opinion. Vise has shown more durability than Gladius and so has Pink, both took hits from stronger opponents than Gladius took hits from.

Diamante and Pink use their DF's to throw Gladius out of balance and make him touch Pica thus exploding Pica. See we can both play the hypothetical game.
 

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Trebol has the weakest team. He only has hax users. As long as their hax is neutralized, they are close to useless. The fight would be more entertaining between Pica and Diamante's army. However, at one point in battle, Pica will just go golem mode and smash everyone into oblivion
 

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Diamante could just make the ground ripple negating Gladius Punk Rock Fest. We've been over this simply saying someone beats someone else doesn't make it a fact it makes it your unbending opinion. Vise has shown more durability than Gladius and so has Pink, both took hits from stronger opponents than Gladius took hits from.

Diamante and Pink use their DF's to throw Gladius out of balance and make him touch Pica thus exploding Pica. See we can both play the hypothetical game.
1. Diamante's fruit doesn't negate Gladius's fruit.
2. Gladius tanked a Jet Stamp, and Machvise's belly hurts whenever he slams the ground. He is definitely not more durable. Pink is the only Executive that has more endurance than Gladius.
3. Please reread that last sentence of yours and then reread the entire arc because that is just plain stupid.
 

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1. Diamante's fruit doesn't negate Gladius's fruit.
2. Gladius tanked a Jet Stamp, and Machvise's belly hurts whenever he slams the ground. He is definitely not more durable. Pink is the only Executive that has more endurance than Gladius.
3. Please reread that last sentence of yours and then reread the entire arc because that is just plain stupid.
1. Says who? You? We have no inclination as to which fruit would affect which.
2. We've been over this Hajrudin has a stronger hit than Luffy, just because Luffy's the MC doesn't mean he has the strongest attacks it just means he'll always end up winning. Jet Stamp hasn't shown anything close to pushing back 10,000 ton so that's a stronger hit than surviving jet stamp plus Vise's body hit birdcage which is razor sharp and wasn't cut. Gladius fought Bartholomew and Cavendish, now I know you aren't saying either of them is stronger than Franky so please explain how either of them s stronger than an Elbaf Giant.
3. No more stupid than your scenario about Pica trapping a team with two people known to manipulate the earth inside an earth wall. Yeah that's real educated. Diamante could just make the wall like a flag and drop it to the ground and escape Punk Rock Fest. Pink can pull people into the ground so what stops him from pulling his team through the wall and escaping the blast?
 

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1. Says who? You? We have no inclination as to which fruit would affect which.
2. We've been over this Hajrudin has a stronger hit than Luffy, just because Luffy's the MC doesn't mean he has the strongest attacks it just means he'll always end up winning. Jet Stamp hasn't shown anything close to pushing back 10,000 ton so that's a stronger hit than surviving jet stamp plus Vise's body hit birdcage which is razor sharp and wasn't cut. Gladius fought Bartholomew and Cavendish, now I know you aren't saying either of them is stronger than Franky so please explain how either of them s stronger than an Elbaf Giant.
3. No more stupid than your scenario about Pica trapping a team with two people known to manipulate the earth inside an earth wall. Yeah that's real educated. Diamante could just make the wall like a flag and drop it to the ground and escape Punk Rock Fest. Pink can pull people into the ground so what stops him from pulling his team through the wall and escaping the blast?
1. Diamante's fruit has never shown the ability to negate Gladius's fruit, so for now it doesn't negate his fruit.
2. Hajrudin got one shotted by Luffy, do I really need to explain why Cavendish and Bartolomeo are stronger than him? Machvise didn't hit the Birdcage, and since when is getting one shotted by an attack a feat? Please reread this arc if you honestly believe Machivse>Gladius and Hajrudin>Bartolomeo and Cavendish, because that's BS. Machvise's attacks are slow and Gladius can just step aside since he is pretty fast. Machvise's belly hurts whenever he misses and hits the ground, so Gladius can just use Punk Hair to paralyze him and then finish him off with Landmine Punc.
3. Pica controls stone, so anything Diamante does to it can easily be reverted. Pink cannot carry people along with him, and even if he can, he can only carry one person at a time since he only has two hands. Assuming he can swim away on time and he is able to carry someone through, it would be an injured Trebol vs Gladius, Baby 5, Buffalo, and Pica vs Senor Pink and Diamante.
 
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1. Diamante's fruit has never shown the ability to negate Gladius's fruit, so for now it doesn't negate his fruit.
2. Hajrudin got one shotted by Luffy, do I really need to explain why Cavendish and Bartolomeo are stronger than him? Machvise didn't hit the Birdcage, and since when is getting one shotted by an attack a feat? Please reread this arc if you honestly believe Machivse>Gladius and Hajrudin>Bartolomeo and Cavendish, because that's BS. Machvise's attacks are slow and Gladius can just step aside since he is pretty fast. Machvise's belly hurts whenever he misses and hits the ground, so Gladius can just use Punk Hair to paralyze him and then finish him off with Landmine Punc.
3. Pica controls stone, so anything Diamante does to it can easily be reverted. Pink cannot carry people along with him, and even if he can, he can only carry one person at a time since he only has two hands. Assuming he can swim away on time and he is able to carry someone through, it would be an injured Trebol vs Gladius, Baby 5, Buffalo, and Pica vs Senor Pink and Diamante.
1. His fruit can make the ground ripple and lose rigidity, if the grounds shape changes then the pressure can't build up thus it can't explode.
2. Durability and strength aren't the same thing, what about that are you not able to get? Hajrudin got one shotted by Luffy fine, but his attacks are still stronger than Cavendish or Barts. Vise took hits from a stronger opponent not a more durable one. Like I told you before Vise DID hit Bird Cage
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and you talk about me needing to re-read. Speeds not all that matters, Pink can trap Gladius like he did Luffy and Vise can smash him and unlike Luffy Gladius isn't rubber so he'll be crushed.
3. Pink pulled Luffy into the ground using his DF maybe you're the one who needs to re-read the chapter. If he has two arms he can carry two at a time btw, he can swim with his feet. Plus you act like Punk Fest is instant he'd have time to make a trip or two.
 

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Diamante army wld take this for reasons of having more experienced combatants in this kind of battle.

Pica army is great but they r more what u bring when yo enemy has barricaded themselves in a fort n u want to wreck n mow it down. Diamante army r for when u know who in yo enemy's camp is a real threat n u don't need to destroy or go thru some fort/barricades but u need the pple wreckt. Trebol army us best for when yo enemy doesn't know u r coming n u infiltrate them, get all close n personal then the finishing blow all before pple can react.

The only way Pica army wins is if they go nuclear right a the start n bury everyone. For Trebol army they wld need to disappear then within the crossfire of the two battle prone camps take out pple one by one.

Chances of victory
Diamante army- 50%(probably 99% if its head to head n no tricks)
Pica army- 40%
Trebol army- 10%(turn their own pple into toys have them close then undo and takedown though Trebol stays as guard to Sugar).
 

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Pica beats them all.
Diamante army would win because he has the power to make the ground and thus stone Pica is made of flutter like a flag at will. So Pica would be quite useless in a battle against diamante army also considering senor Pink can just swim in and get him out.

Besides Dressrosa with a castle of stone on a stone tower is Pica favoured, in other places he would never be able to make giants of himself that have that size with his surroundings. Think about what would happen if Pica was on Punk Hazard, everything was made out of metal there.

That is what difference it makes where Pica fights, he wouldn't be as impressive as he is in DR in 99% of other islands.
 

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Diamante army would win because he has the power to make the ground and thus stone Pica is made of flutter like a flag at will. So Pica would be quite useless in a battle against diamante army also considering senor Pink can just swim in and get him out.

Besides Dressrosa with a castle of stone on a stone tower is Pica favoured, in other places he would never be able to make giants of himself that have that size with his surroundings. Think about what would happen if Pica was on Punk Hazard, everything was made out of metal there.

That is what difference it makes where Pica fights, he wouldn't be as impressive as he is in DR in 99% of other islands.
If Diamanté flutters the ground, Pica can unflutter it as long as it is stone. Also, Pica can move through stone, so Pink isn't catching him.
 

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Diamante can barely flutter the surface of a minor plateau. Good luck in him fluttering massive mountains of rocks(in terms of size and volume) that Pica showed the capacity to level up. He also lacks the scale and power in his swordsmanship move. While his "half moon" attack displayed in this chapter was relatively impressive, not only it requires a little prep time, but infront of the giant, the slash won't really maneuver too deep and far. His best chance would be to dodge.

However with Pica's complete control over the ground environment, he can easily block Diamante into a specific location by manipulating the ground environment and why not taking advantage to also destabilize his balance, while creating some mini golems and smash him into pieces(and considering the little prep time of his moves, he won't manage to counter them all in time, if even one of them).

Also, for Senor Pink to actually catch Pica inside the rock with his ability, he actually has to make it to Pica first, so knowing his exact location(who can anywhere in the rock) and actually catch him all that before Pica can switch location(he has night instantaneous transport inside rock). Meanwhile, Pica can use the rock environment to burry him in the stone or simply cut him into multiple pieces with the amount of bladed weapon he can take around the environment with his superior combat ability

And defensively, he is difficult to beat with the night instantaneous rock regeneration through environmental rock assimilation. You will have to go through a massive amount of rock even before trying to catch his real body(assuming you even know his real location), something not even guaranteed considering he can instantaneously switch from one place to another(from afar) without you realising

Pica really has the capacity to solo this if he plays his cards right. No wonder he seemed so confident in his power relative to the rest of his family. Gladius as well has been portrayed as the strongest executive and his attacks frankly speaking are even comparable to Diamante's in terms of scale. With Gladius ground bombs implantation, in combo with Pica's environmental alteration, it can easily be a deadly combo. Baby5 and Buffalo also showed great teamwork and are the ones Doffy actually chosed for the external mission to recover Caesar. It's funny in the end how it's Pica's division that showed the best amount of teamwork and good combat abilities with only Lao G and Dellinger clearly competing in the area
 
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If Diamanté flutters the ground, Pica can unflutter it as long as it is stone. Also, Pica can move through stone, so Pink isn't catching him.
Pink is faster than Pica, seriously as much as you tried to tell me to re-read, I suggest it back to you, Pink swims through the ground fast.

Also I'll leave this here though you'll probably ignore it

This fruit does not seem to have any specific weaknesses, aside from the standard Devil Fruit weaknesses.

One weakness of the fruit is that the user needs to be merged with the stone to control it, as seen when Pica's real body emerges from the stone giant, the giant stopped moving. Because this power is not Logia, the user's body does not transform into stone, but instead resides within it, and that portion is as vulnerable as any normal person.[3] Indeed, Pica had to shift his conscious human part away to avoid Roronoa Zoro's slash.[5] The user is also vulnerable against the standard Devil Fruit weaknesses.

Diamante can use his power whenever and wherever. Everytime Diamante used his power on Pica's rock, Pica would have to make a new layer of rock until Diamante could flutter every inch.
 
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