Truth seeking balls and Bijuu

[Transcendence]

Then explain to me how TSB erase ninjutsu.

The way I see it, ninjutsu is chakra being used to achieve a desired effect. If the chakra from a ninjutsu gets drained, the ninjutsu disperses, as seen with preta path. Like wise if the chakra from a ninjutsu is erased, the ninjutsu is erased.

If this is correct then the only way to erase a ninjutsu completely, is to erase the chakra as well.

Because it erases Ninjutsu. What else would you like me to explain? Ninjutsu is weaponizing chakra to create jutsu (I.E. Rasengan, Chidori etc.). The Bijuu are pure chakra.

 

[AlphaScythian]

No they wouldn't. You can't correlate Edo Tensei as a Ninjutsu versus COAT creating the Bijuu. Edo Tensei at their core whether conscious or not (in control) are minions to the user of Edo Tensei and are proxies for their chakra; hence why Kabuto could transmit himself through Muu to talk to Edo Madara. They hold Ninjutsu properties as their bodies being sacrifices are part of the jutsu. COAT created the Bijuu from the Juubi's chakra but after that, they hold no connection to COAT at all like the Edo's do as the Bijuu have their own distinct properties, like number of tails, KKG, techniques etc.

@Bold This is all due to tag. Edo zombie has no connection to the user besides it, even if the user dies edo tensei still there.

Its really isnt much different from COAT.

Both would be erased.

 

[Gerkak]

Because it erases Ninjutsu. What else would you like me to explain? Ninjutsu is weaponizing chakra to create jutsu (I.E. Rasengan, Chidori etc.). The Bijuu are pure chakra.

You don't get it. Ninjutsu is made up of chakra, it doesn't have to be a weapon as it can be used to heal as well. Besides it being used for any particular purpose there is no difference between ninjutsu and chakra. If ninjutsu which is just chakra being used to do something can be erased, then so can raw chakra.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Ninjutsu is a normal chakra + affinity or any seal and mold them by using hand sign to create weapons.

Senjutsu is a Natural energy base weapon/weapon that using Natural energy

Bijuus is made of normal chakra unlike Juubi.

TSB can erase Ninjutsu(weapon base on chakra) and normal chakra but not Natural chakra/energy.

The conclusion is, Bijuus can be erase from existence and no more Kaguya.

 

[V h o]

Bijuu probably would still live. Assuming TSBs work on bijuu because it worked on ninjutsu is bad reasoning and logic, while also being a fallacy (slippery slope) since we're now assuming A causes Z.

 

[Conspirator.]

No they wouldn't. You can't correlate Edo Tensei as a Ninjutsu versus COAT creating the Bijuu. Edo Tensei at their core whether conscious or not (in control) are minions to the user of Edo Tensei and are proxies for their chakra; hence why Kabuto could transmit himself through Muu to talk to Edo Madara. They hold Ninjutsu properties as their bodies being sacrifices are part of the jutsu. COAT created the Bijuu from the Juubi's chakra but after that, they hold no connection to COAT at all like the Edo's do as the Bijuu have their own distinct properties, like number of tails, KKG, techniques etc.

I agree with this explanation.

 

[Ansatsuken]

The key point here is not COAT or Edo Tensei, but chakra

Other chakra that is not Natural chakra can be erase by TSB(Omnyodon)

Ninjutsu is one form of chakra manipulation but they are not Natural chakra/energy completely like Toad oil or Black chidori etc.

Unless Bijuus is made by Natural energy, they can be erase.

Show me the fact that Bijuus are made from Natural energy.

 

[Gerkak]

The key point here is not COAT or Edo Tensei, but chakra

Other chakra that is not Natural chakra can be erase by TSB(Omnyodon)

Ninjutsu is one form of chakra manipulation but they are not Natural chakra/energy completely like Toad oil or Black chidori etc.

Unless Bijuus is made by Natural energy, they can be erase.

Show me the fact that Bijuus are made from Natural energy.

This is what I've been saying. The bijuu are merely sapient chakra given form. TSB erase ninjutsu and therefore chakra as well, the bijuu will be erased by TSB.

 

[PureSkillz]

TSB erases chakra.

Rasengan is ninjutsu. But it's created by spinning pure chakra in a concentrated ball.

I would assume TSB can erase the pure chakra in a rasengan, so I see no reason it can't erase a Bijuu.


The bijuu shouldn't reform since the chakra won't exist to reform.

 

[A Perfect Orgasm]

Lol "balls"

 

[KidGamer65]

Saying that Bijuu would be killed and destroyed to never come back by the Gudo Dama, is like saying humans killed by the Gudo Dama die and can't be revived via Edo Tensei. Lol.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Saying that Bijuu would be killed and destroyed to never come back by the Gudo Dama, is like saying humans killed by the Gudo Dama die and can't be revived via Edo Tensei. Lol.

Kishimoto via Tobirama explanation is to vague, but I think Tobirama meant all thing that shape by chakra 100% will be erase completely.

That's mean like Edo Minato case, his body is made of 100% chakra(ninjutsu) and if his body get erase by TBB completely, he cant edo revive back unless other edo summoning ritual is perform

Alive human body is compose by flesh and chakra network different from Edo body that is pure chakra. Alive human body have DNA while Edo body don't have DNA same as Bijuus body.

Also human(alive or Edo) have soul that I think is not made of chakra and TSB cant erase them although Edo body get erase, that soul is keep save inside Pure World of NV.

Edo person that get erase by TSB can be summon back by ritual because their soul is still exist

What Tobirama afraid off is, if Minato get erase by Omnyodon he can't revive back in that time and continue fighting the war.

Bijuu body is pure chakra and Edo body also is pure chakra, that is the difference between them and alive human plus soul

 

[Gerkak]

Saying that Bijuu would be killed and destroyed to never come back by the Gudo Dama, is like saying humans killed by the Gudo Dama die and can't be revived via Edo Tensei. Lol.

TSB erase chakra which the bijuu are entirely made of. The bijuu reform after death because chakra disperses into the environment after death and since they have consciousness, the chakra recollects and their physical form is reformed.

If the chakra is erased completely, it should not be possible for them to reform.

As for humans they posses souls(so they can be revived by edo tensei and rinne tensei), the bijuu don't as far as I know, are just masses of sapient chakra given form.

 

[jiraiya nindo]

TSB erase chakra which the bijuu are entirely made of. The bijuu reform after death because chakra disperses into the environment after death and since they have consciousness, the chakra recollects and their physical form is reformed.

If the chakra is erased completely, it should not be possible for them to reform.

As for humans they posses souls(so they can be revived by edo tensei and rinne tensei), the bijuu don't as far as I know, are just masses of sapient chakra given form.

I'm not so sure. They are masses of chakra but kurama states, in the end of naruto, that he will give naruto the last of his chakra and that will make kurama go to sleep until he regains chakra again. So, that implies that they have actual bodies that are separate from their chakras. That might have been a consequence of how they were made with COAT.

But since we haven't gotten a full explanation of COAT, it's impossible to say that the bijuu are chakra and only chakra. They definitely are mostly chakra but they may have actual bodies that house all that chakra( like humans).

If they were chakra and chakra only, then kurama should've been able to give naruto chakra until he completely vanishes and was nothing more than just a sapient mind.

 

[Gerkak]

I'm not so sure. They are masses of chakra but kurama states, in the end of naruto, that he will give naruto the last of his chakra and that will make kurama go to sleep until he regains chakra again. So, that implies that they have actual bodies that are separate from their chakras. That might have been a consequence of how they were made with COAT.

But since we haven't gotten a full explanation of COAT, it's impossible to say that the bijuu are chakra and only chakra. They definitely are mostly chakra but they may have actual bodies that house all that chakra( like humans).

If they were chakra and chakra only, then kurama should've been able to give naruto chakra until he completely vanishes and was nothing more than just a sapient mind.

The bijuu are made completely of chakra.

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As you can see, the bijuu are made of chakra, they were formless masses of chakra when inside obito though they still possessed consciousness, however when removed they assume their material forms.

Remember when naruto first gained KCM? kurama was so drained that he looked emaciated and when he started to charge a bijuu dama his form began to lose his physical form. The point is the bijuu need a certain amount of chakra to maintain their physical form and not disperse, what dark kurama gave naruto was the maximum amount of chakra he could give without starting to lose his form.

It was clearly explained that the bijuu were created from the juubi's chakra, they are beings of chakra, completely different from human beings.

If the bijuu completely loses form it will "die" and needs to time to reform itself. And another thing to note is the bijuu lack souls.