Naruto's full power with Boil Release.

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We all know Naruto's a powerhouse. With his Sage Mode, his strength increases dramatically, so much that he could shatter stones (as seen against Preta Path). Combining that with RM, his physical strength improves even more, so much more that I think we can't actually calculate it.

What do you think his capabilities are when he goes even beyond that? With Boil Release, his strength increases much more. I'd say he's stronger than Sakura and Tsunade. Could he rival 8 Gates Gai in physical strength then? Don't get offended, I'm only asking about your opinions. Thanks.
 

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With the help of the 5 tails he was able to clearly get a huge power up. As seen in the manga he got his chakra to a boiling point, giving him an insane power up, strong enough to punch kaguya away with ultimate force. I could easily say that his strength is a lot bigger than Sakura's or Tsunades is, but wouldn't bet that he is as strong as 8th gate gai. After all his strength will be 100 folded, strong enough to break a gudou dama with raw force.
 

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With the help of the 5 tails he was able to clearly get a huge power up. As seen in the manga he got his chakra to a boiling point, giving him an insane power up, strong enough to punch kaguya away with ultimate force. I could easily say that his strength is a lot bigger than Sakura's or Tsunades is, but wouldn't bet that he is as strong as 8th gate gai. After all his strength will be 100 folded, strong enough to break a gudou dama with raw force.

Is there a way we can calculate or compare their raw strength anyway? Is activating the gates actually more powerful than Sage Mode, Bijuu's chakra and Boil release altogether? I somehow doubt that.
 

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I'd say that the force released through might guy/night moth is higher than any physical attack shown before and after that. I mean it obliterated a part of Madaras body which was also empowered by Rikoudo Sage mode.
 

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I'd say that the force released through might guy/night moth is higher than any physical attack shown before and after that. I mean it obliterated a part of Madaras body which was also empowered by Rikoudo Sage mode.

Agreed there. It's just that Naruto never concentrated his entire power on a raw, physical move (unlike Gai). He just showed how much strength he has in general.
 

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Agreed there. It's just that Naruto never concentrated his entire power on a raw, physical move (unlike Gai). He just showed how much strength he has in general.

He is at least way stronger than Tsunade or Sakura. I think it depends on how fast Naruto moves. If he would be able to land a punch with the same speed as Gai, he would probably turn everything into dust.
 

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He is at least way stronger than Tsunade or Sakura. I think it depends on how fast Naruto moves. If he would be able to land a punch with the same speed as Gai, he would probably turn everything into dust.

In other words, it would be more powerful than Gai's Moth? I'd like to think so. I mean the 8 Gates are awesome, but I think the full capacity of Rikudou's raw strength is indeed stronger. It's borderline godly power.
 

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In other words, it would be more powerful than Gai's Moth? I'd like to think so. I mean the 8 Gates are awesome, but I think the full capacity of Rikudou's raw strength is indeed stronger. It's borderline godly power.

Guy was able to warp space with pure physical output... Nothing else even comes close.
 

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In other words, it would be more powerful than Gai's Moth? I'd like to think so. I mean the 8 Gates are awesome, but I think the full capacity of Rikudou's raw strength is indeed stronger. It's borderline godly power.

Naruto's full power with boil release is not stronger than Night Moth... Just impossible, even with all that raw power i don't think Naruto can distort the space.
 

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In other words, it would be more powerful than Gai's Moth?

Sure. Narutos body is stronger due to sage mode like you said, but I doubt that he could reach the speed of Gai. Even Madara couldn't keep up with that speed.
 

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I thin naruto's strength in sage mode alone is beyond any character in the manga except 8th gate gai. I don't see any other shinobi stopping a rampaging giant rhino(while standing still) like it was nothing.

Sakura and tsunade could undoubtedly lift and throw throw the rhino but I'm not sure they could stop the rhino in its tracks. Sakura and tsunade get extreme strength through precise chakra control to pre-arranged spots on their body. Naruto's strength is through his whole body(arms, legs, fingers, head, etc.)
 

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Guy was able to warp space with pure physical output... Nothing else even comes close.

Naruto's full power with boil release is not stronger than Night Moth... Just impossible, even with all that raw power i don't think Naruto can distort the space.


Agreed, but we don't know if Naruto can or can't do the same. That's why I said it's a shame he never concentrated all his power into a raw, physical move like Gai did.

Sure. Narutos body is stronger due to sage mode like you said, but I doubt that he could reach the speed of Gai. Even Madara couldn't keep up with that speed.

Hmm, a good question now would be is Gai's speed faster than Hiraishin? I assume Naruto's has a "better" or "faster" version of Hiraishin than Minato.

I thin naruto's strength in sage mode alone is beyond any character in the manga except 8th gate gai. I don't see any other shinobi stopping a rampaging giant rhino(while standing still) like it was nothing.

Sakura and tsunade could undoubtedly lift and throw throw the rhino but I'm not sure they could stop the rhino in its tracks. Sakura and tsunade get extreme strength through precise chakra control to pre-arranged spots on their body. Naruto's strength is through his whole body(arms, legs, fingers, head, etc.)

Agreed. But his Sage Mode is amplified with RM and Boil Release. Kinda unimaginable.
 
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He will have unrivaled strength compare to anyone else. It isn't really debatable.
 

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Hmm, a good question now would be is Gai's speed faster than Hiraishin? I assume Naruto's has a "better" or "faster" version of Hiraishin than Minato.

No, Hiraishin is instant, but the incoming attack would have finite speed. That's why Madara was able to react to Minatos attack.

Naruto doesn't have Hiraishin btw. He uses shunshin. Not sure quite sure what the difference is tho. Tobiramas Hiraishingiri seems to work differently than other versions.
 

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No, Hiraishin is instant, but the incoming attack would have finite speed. That's why Madara was able to react to Minatos attack.

Naruto doesn't have Hiraishin btw. He uses shunshin. Not sure quite sure what the difference is tho. Tobiramas Hiraishingiri seems to work differently than other versions.

Hmm, I see what you mean. Sage Mode and RM do amplify the speed, but to the point of distorting space? Yeah, that's doubtful.

Well, whichever it is, it was fast enough to evade Raikage.
 

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Guy was able to warp space with pure physical output... Nothing else even comes close.

He didn't warp space, he warped the space.

He created a quantum fluctuation; a focus of energy to a single point, it's the same principle used to create Hirudora and Evening Elephant but elevated by the fact that Gai's energy capacity is dramatically higher in the Eighth Gate and that the gathered energy forms a vacuum of maintained energy that spirals towards himself in a spiral as opposed to going outwards as one short sharp blast.. 空間 refers to the physical space, not the kind of space (space time = 時空) it's been misinterpreted as. If Gai had warped space around himself, he would have been ripped to shreds.
 
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^why are you applying logic to fiction? He distorted space that's it.
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^why are you applying logic to fiction? He distorted space that's it.
OT. Far above than any ces user.

I'm not "applying logic to fiction"; it's simple science AND what the exact language expresses.

空間 = Physical space
時空 = Space-time

Believe it or not though, Kishi does apply the fundamentals of physics. And your statement is witless anyway; if we didn't apply logic, how would anything work? C'mon, get a grip.
 
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I thin naruto's strength in sage mode alone is beyond any character in the manga except 8th gate gai. I don't see any other shinobi stopping a rampaging giant rhino(while standing still) like it was nothing.

Sakura and tsunade could undoubtedly lift and throw throw the rhino but I'm not sure they could stop the rhino in its tracks. Sakura and tsunade get extreme strength through precise chakra control to pre-arranged spots on their body. Naruto's strength is through his whole body(arms, legs, fingers, head, etc.)

I have to disagree with all of it. First Saying SM naruto has the best strenght behind 8th Gates Gai is so false, SM Hashi and a lot of chars have a better strenght. Also Byakugo Sakura has a better strenght too (imo)
 

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I have to disagree with all of it. First Saying SM naruto has the best strenght behind 8th Gates Gai is so false, SM Hashi and a lot of chars have a better strenght. Also Byakugo Sakura has a better strenght too (imo)

With SM alone, you're right. None of them are a match with RM and Boil, though.
 
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