Tsunade is better at protecting Konoha than other Hokage

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This excludes Hashirama and Naruto, for obvious reasons.

The reason I'm making this thread is because I've seen posters flack, downplay, minimize, underestimate, and undermine Tsunade's ability and status as a kage and as a member of the Sannin left and right. Why do they do this?

The oher kage, and her Sannin counterparts, trump her in overall shinobi prowess, power, and skill. There's no getting around that. However, to say that Tsunade isn't kage level is rather outrageous when we consider her feats and prowess in medical ninjutsu, her intelligence, her strength, her durability, her reputation, her chakra reserves, Byakugō no Jutsu, and her relationship with Katsuyu. So saying that other shinobi are stronger than her isn't a good basis to argue against her title as a kage and as a Sannin. I would argue that she actually was a more fitting candidate for being Hokage than the likes of Jiraiya was. (the latter is still comfortably above her in power and skill, so lets not go overboard)

I think most knowledgable members of this forum know where I'm going with this, but I'll say it anyway. Replace Tsunade with Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen, Jiraiya, Kakashi, any Mizukage that we've seen, any Kazekage that we've seen, any Raikage that we've seen, and any Tsuchikage that we've seen during Pain's invasion of Konoha, and at least 80% of the village's citizens and shinobi would have died on top of the village getting destroyed, and the latter happening is insignificant compared to the former by a wide margin. No, the Hiraishin users would not have been able to teleport Tendō before he shot off Shinra Tensei, sorry. No, the Tsuchikages would not have been able to vaporize him with jinton. Chō Shinra Tensei would have deflected any attempt.

The fact that Tsunade was healing the injured citizens through Katauyu already, and that she was able to save most of the inhabitants from getting killed from Shinra Tensei via Katsuyu, while still having the strength to stand up in front of Tendō is a massive feat in terms of chakra reserves. This feat shouldn't even be surprising either due to Tsunade's Senju/Uzumaki heritage.

The point is, Tsunade's not only comfortably kage level, but she's also one of the best kages in the NV due to her sheer prowess as a medic alone and her ability to fulfill the burdens of a kage, which include her ability to protect a village. So please don't spit mindless hate about a character you probably don't understand very well.

Edit: Seem like some people have trouble with reading comprehension here, so let me say again that Tsunade's one of the best kages in the NV in terms of fulfilling her duties as a kage and protecting a village, not in terms of skill or shinobi prowess (though she's still kage level anyway). This is basically the point I'm making in this thread. Comprende? Do I need to spell it out for people?

Ty and Ero Sennin solos.
 
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What the hell never, she was took down by Kabuto and ashura path only....
 

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She managed to protect most of her people during Pains shinra tensei which completely wiped out Konoha. That's an incredible feat.
 

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Man, if she wanted she could've made Konoha the deadliest village of them all.

Mass poison production and so on.
 

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Minato and Hashirama would not have had the village in this stae in the first place fighting Pain head on and preventing injuries to villagers and destruction of village itself
 
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Minato diverted a Bijuu bomb of a full Kyubi, saving the village of something who could have wiped out the entire village in an equivalent or worse state than Pein.

Tsunade managed to save many, that's a excellent feat, but she is not better, she just proved that she had what it takes.
 

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Of course she's Kage level.. Whoever says she isn't is either trolling or just a hater.

However, She still get's soloed by any villain that ever invaded the Hidden Leaf Village during her Kage Reign.

+ She gets soloed by most Akatsuki members, So if it comes down to protecting the village (Without Naruto) She'll get beaten and Hidden Leaf = Gone. (Example: Pain, Itachi.)
 

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Pain says otherwise
[video=youtube;WflEKJg1SXw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WflEKJg1SXw[/video]
 

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Pain already thrashed the village when she was Hokage.
Mianto protected the village when Obi to attacked with 9 Tails. Remember Oito who is Nagato's boss.
So you claim is incorrect.

That being said, she made excellent use of her medic skills. But you are comparing her to other Hokages
 

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She wasn't better than Hiruzen, that's certain

And not better than Minato too...
 

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This is probably the first time I have ever agreed with you.
Too few people realize her feats.
 

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Is that why Tsunade ended up in a coma because she is the best at protecting her village? tf?
 

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I love me a good tsunade appreciation thread, but you tried it when you said her Kage counterpart and Sannin trump her.
 

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This is probably the first time I have ever agreed with you.
Too few people realize her feats.

Remind me her feats ? Being sliced in two by Edo Madara or not being able to fight against Pain until 16yo Naruto arrives ?
 

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Really? I must have missed something when I saw this scan then:

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Evaluate that's a lot of souls being spat out. And a lot of lives being revived.
 

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Remind me her feats ? Being sliced in two by Edo Madara or not being able to fight against Pain until 16yo Naruto arrives ?

How about being sliced in half summoning a massive slug ( chakra taxing) while sustaining her own injury, and healing 4 other nearly dead people.

Compare that to a uchiha who could barely ma manage a susanoo
 

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How about being sliced in half summoning a massive slug ( chakra taxing) while sustaining her own injury, and healing 4 other nearly dead people.

Compare that to a uchiha who could barely ma manage a susanoo

What's the difference ? It's a feat that she was still able to summon something let alone Katsuyu. She couldn't have protect Konoha in her Hokage era tho
 

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This excludes Hashirama and Naruto, for obvious reasons.

The reason I'm making this thread is because I've seen posters flack, downplay, minimize, underestimate, and undermine Tsunade's ability and status as a kage and as a member of the Sannin left and right. Why do they do this?

The oher kage, and her Sannin counterparts, trump her in overall shinobi prowess, power, and skill. There's no getting around that. However, to say that Tsunade isn't kage level is rather outrageous when we consider her feats and prowess in medical ninjutsu, her intelligence, her strength, her durability, her reputation, her chakra reserves, Byakugō no Jutsu, and her relationship with Katsuyu. So saying that other shinobi are stronger than her isn't a good basis to argue against her title as a kage and as a Sannin. I would argue that she actually was a more fitting candidate for being Hokage than the likes of Jiraiya was. (the latter is still comfortably above her in power and skill, so lets not go overboard)

I think most knowledgable members of this forum know where I'm going with this, but I'll say it anyway. Replace Tsunade with Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen, Jiraiya, Kakashi, any Mizukage that we've seen, any Kazekage that we've seen, any Raikage that we've seen, and any Tsuchikage that we've seen during Pain's invasion of Konoha, and at least 80% of the village's citizens and shinobi would have died on top of the village getting destroyed, and the latter happening is insignificant compared to the former by a wide margin. No, the Hiraishin users would not have been able to teleport Tendō before he shot off Shinra Tensei, sorry. No, the Tsuchikages would not have been able to vaporize him with jinton. Chō Shinra Tensei would have deflected any attempt.

The fact that Tsunade was healing the injured citizens through Katauyu already, and that she was able to save most of the inhabitants from getting killed from Shinra Tensei via Katsuyu, while still having the strength to stand up in front of Tendō is a massive feat in terms of chakra reserves. This feat shouldn't even be surprising either due to Tsunade's Senju/Uzumaki heritage.

The point is, Tsunade's not only comfortably kage level, but she's also one of the best kages in the NV due to her sheer prowess as a medic alone and her ability to fulfill the burdens of a kage, which include her ability to protect a village. So please don't spit mindless hate about a character you probably don't understand very well.

Ty and Ero Sennin solos.

You ignore a vital point which is that the other kages or kazekages or tsuchikages would be able to fight pain and stop him from even having the opportunity to use cho shinra tensei.

This is tsunade's weakness. She couldn't fight pain and stop him. She could only heal the citizens and hope they would defeat pain for her.

That's weakness.
 

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What's the difference ? It's a feat that she was still able to summon something let alone Katsuyu. She couldn't have protect Konoha in her Hokage era tho

Pein overpowered a weaken, chakra exhausted tsunade, who was busy channeling her chakra to protect the village. He used his strongest attAck and he still didn't hurt her, tsunade hurt herself.

The difference is that she was able to maintain it, and she was in a worst state than that said uchiha.
 
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