Edo Han vs Kisame

[Brother Numpsay]

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Location: Bee vs Kisame
Intel: Manga
Condition: Since he has reflection Rinnegan on his left eye (or right?), he can use 1/6 path move via Asura Path. Kisame has seals.


Who wins?

 

[Beans2]

Kisame beats him the same way he beat Roshi or Bee.

 

[LuckyMan]

Tailed Beast Ball??

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Kisame wipes the floor with him like he did with Bee. The samehada had a bit of a rough time against Rōshi due to Yōton, but still beat him handily.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kisame beats him the same way he beat Roshi or Bee.

Match is different.

Sharingan copies any water release from Kisame, can use genjutsu, and sharingan precog, etc.
Boil Release, enough built, canonically was used to evaporate Water/Ice, so that isn't too much of a problem.

So no theres literally no way he can't beat them the same way.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Match is different.

Sharingan copies any water release from Kisame, can use genjutsu, and sharingan precog, etc.
Boil Release, enough built, canonically was used to evaporate Water/Ice, so that isn't too much of a problem.

So no theres literally no way he can't beat them the same way.

???? The edo jinchūriki were never shown to be able to use the abilites of the sharingan like being able to copy techniques or cast genjutsu. The only benefits they had were getting shared vision via the Rinnegan and I believe they got precognition, though I'm not even sure about the last one.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

???? The edo jinchūriki were never shown to be able to use the abilites of the sharingan like being able to copy techniques or cast genjutsu. The only benefits they had were getting shared vision via the Rinnegan and I believe they got precognition, though I'm not even sure about the last one.

Thats because there was nothing to copy in their conditions, not to mention being controlled to act according to Obito's will.

 

[Zexion~]

Boil release can still be absorbed?

Asura paths missiles? Don't even harm Kisame with his healing unless its a direct hit which will never happen.

Kisame's already gone toe to toe with a jin in his water dome, taking down one that is going to have less mobility isn't really a problem.

EJBlack hyping the copying jutsu again

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Boil release can still be absorbed?

Not the way Kokuō uses it. Buijuu uses it much like how gates work. So maybe it can absorb the heat its produce around the casters body, buts the its main focus is to boost speed and physical prowess. So it would be useless.

Asura paths missiles? Don't even harm Kisame with his healing unless its a direct hit which will never happen.

Kisame escapes missiles, only to have a Rocket Punch (with boil release boost) coming at him, direct hit.

Kisame's already gone toe to toe with a jin in his water dome, taking down one that is going to have less mobility isn't really a problem.

Good thing Boil Release can be built to boil and evaporate the water/

EJBlack hyping the copying jutsu again

Lol theres no hype since thats the ability the Sharingan can do.

 

[Zexion~]

Not the way Kokuō uses it. Buijuu uses it much like how gates work. So maybe it can absorb the heat its produce around the casters body, buts the its main focus is to boost speed and physical prowess. So it would be useless.

Once he does that Kisame puts up GWD and then fuses, meaning he can absorb any chakra around Han whenever he comes into contact with it meaning the boil release won't do anything. Han's already slow for even the normal Shinobi, underwater I doubt he's going to be a swim star.

Kisame escapes missiles, only to have a Rocket Punch (with boil release boost) coming at him, direct hit.

Samehada would move to intercept it easily. Which means the boil chakra would be absorbed making a normal punch that the sword can tank.

Good thing Boil Release can be built to boil and evaporate the water/

Good thing it cant as Kisame can keep it in constant supply, and saying that a tine human aura sized boil chakra can boil the WD out of shape is ludicrous

Lol theres no hype since thats the ability the Sharingan can do.

On basic jutsu, to copy advanced jutsu you must master it. Claiming it can copy the likes of 1000 sharks is again...hype

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Once he does that Kisame puts up GWD and then fuses, meaning he can absorb any chakra around Han whenever he comes into contact with it meaning the boil release won't do anything. Han's already slow for even the normal Shinobi, underwater I doubt he's going to be a swim star.

Again producing alot of it can evaporate the water. On top of that he can use Asura Beam.

Samehada would move to intercept it easily. Which means the boil chakra would be absorbed making a normal punch that the sword can tank.

Lol not when he is already dodging missiles. You might want to read up on the move again

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Good thing it cant as Kisame can keep it in constant supply, and saying that a tine human aura sized boil chakra can boil the WD out of shape is ludicrous

Since can Kisame constantly supply more water for waterdome?

I didn't say tiny aura was going to boil it either. DB stated "The exact amount of force produced is proportional to the quantity of steam released, as the greater the volume of steam utilized, the larger the pressure that can be built up."

Meaning the caster can manipulate the volume of steam to produce.

On basic jutsu, to copy advanced jutsu you must master it. Claiming it can copy the likes of 1000 sharks is again...hype

Boil Release is an advance KKG. You have to be efficient in the two elements you combining. Boil Release is Fire+Water. [

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]. So no nothing in Kisames Suiton is advance (he may not be able to copy the absorbing chakra Suitons) and he clearly has the chakra since he is Buiju level chakra.

 

[HENI]

Kisame wins neg diff.

 

[Zexion~]

Again producing alot of it can evaporate the water. On top of that he can use Asura Beam.

Asura beam? Has shown nothing at all to hint at evaporating water. Producing a lot? It would all be sucked into Kisame who would then absorb all of it. Not to mention he won't have time, at the last GSB smacks him and his boil release upside the head.

Lol not when he is already dodging missiles. You might want to read up on the move again

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And you might want to read the manga again Samehada can move on its own

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Able to extend and swirl and then retract quick enough to block Bee

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So while Kisame's dodging the missiles Samehada can casually block the fist. Thanks for linking that btw, "Hand portion is protected with chakra" Samehada absorbs that chakra and its useless.

Since can Kisame constantly supply more water for waterdome?

Since he has near unlimited chakra limites .-.

I didn't say tiny aura was going to boil it either. DB stated "The exact amount of force produced is proportional to the quantity of steam released, as the greater the volume of steam utilized, the larger the pressure that can be built up."

Force =/= Volume, either way Kisame absorbs it all before it gets more then two feet from Han.

Boil Release is an advance KKG. You have to be efficient in the two elements you combining. Boil Release is Fire+Water. [

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]. So no nothing in Kisames Suiton is advance (he may not be able to copy the absorbing chakra Suitons) and he clearly has the chakra since he is Buiju level chakra.

Omg :dead: No do you not realize what exactly the differences are between elemental jutsu?

If this is true tell me why Kakashi didn't just "Copy" Every jutsu of Kakuzu's? Because even with the copying you need to have mastered an element.

1000 sharks is an advanced suiton that only can be used with mastery of it. This is the type of wank you simply can't debate against. Next you're going to say Sharingan can copy GWD Lol

 

[Brother Numpsay]

IM going to sleep. Ill reply later

 

[Conspirator.]

Kisame easily wins.

 

[Lariatoo]

The tough thing is that Kisame wins his matches against the higher tiers by absobing their chakra until they can't fight anymore. And Edos have unlimited chakra...

 

[DMT]

BM Han spam BD

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Asura beam? Has shown nothing at all to hint at evaporating water. Producing a lot? It would all be sucked into Kisame who would then absorb all of it. Not to mention he won't have time, at the last GSB smacks him and his boil release upside the head.

Samehada has never shown to do what you stated, as your making his absorption look limitless or even close to Pretra Path. Fact remain, and I know you know the scans I would bring, that Samehada can't take in mass amount of chakra all at once. Or volume size.

Plus common sense shows that Laser produces heat. Not to mention Kisame cant do GSB with WaterDome.

And you might want to read the manga again Samehada can move on its own

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Able to extend and swirl and then retract quick enough to block Bee

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So while Kisame's dodging the missiles Samehada can casually block the fist. Thanks for linking that btw, "Hand portion is protected with chakra" Samehada absorbs that chakra and its useless.

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Kisame loses Samehada from that attack.

Since he has near unlimited chakra limites .-.

Not gonna take this serious.

Force =/= Volume, either way Kisame absorbs it all before it gets more then two feet from Han.

Try reading the whole context. Not to mention going Buijuu Mode makes the attack size and volume increase even more Lol.

Omg :dead: No do you not realize what exactly the differences are between elemental jutsu?

If this is true tell me why Kakashi didn't just "Copy" Every jutsu of Kakuzu's? Because even with the copying you need to have mastered an element.

1000 sharks is an advanced suiton that only can be used with mastery of it. This is the type of wank you simply can't debate against. Next you're going to say Sharingan can copy GWD Lol

Um not a good example to support your claim since Kakuzu ninjutsu is base on EGF. You can't copy something thats built thourgh kinjutsu. If Kakashi actually has EGF then your argument would make sense. But EGF is as = to Hiden ninjutsu.

1000 Sharks was never implied to be too advance. Its only more powerful version of Suiton: Goshokuzame, DB stated.

So as I stated Han copies anything that isn't applied with absorption