DSM Kabuto vs KCM Naruto

Who wins?

  • Kabuto wins

    Votes: 10 47.6%
  • Naruto wins

    Votes: 11 52.4%

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Location: Snake cave.
Distance: 30 meters
Intel: Manga (Kabuto knows almost everything via Edo's and Naruto only that he fused with Oro)
Restrictions: Edo Tensei, mini TBB
 

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...Naruto wins this rather easily.
 

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Unbalance match up the moment you made it a cave. White Rage follow by xyz ends the match.
 

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Using variable as an expression, of the list of moves Kabuto can do to end the fight.

well white rage is absolutely useless. Naruto tracks Kabuto via negative emotions sensing and kills him with FRS or COR attached to a chakra arm...assuming he doesnt just blitz the snake orb with rasengan before it explodes.
 

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well white rage is absolutely useless. Naruto tracks Kabuto via negative emotions sensing and kills him with FRS or COR attached to a chakra arm...assuming he doesnt just blitz the snake orb with rasengan before it explodes.

What is up with you. Every new Kabuto thread I see, you all of the sudden become ignorant/arrogant with the character.

No White Rage isn't useless as being in the cave would mean the vibration paralyzes Naruto + won't be able to mold chakra properly. He can't move so the match is over then.

Naruto blitzing will never be effective here. He will need to create FRS first, FRS doesn't move the same speed as Naruto, so once again White Rage goes off and its over.

Naruto, nor anyone in NV will never ever ever ever attack a ninjutsu move, NEVER will that happen. Not in character, not with intel, not even with full intel.
 

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What is up with you. Every new Kabuto thread I see, you all of the sudden become ignorant/arrogant with the character.

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No White Rage isn't useless as being in the cave would mean the vibration paralyzes Naruto + won't be able to mold chakra properly. He can't move so the match is over then.

Uh, since when did being unable to move = you can't mold chakra properly? Itachi was maintaining Susanoo during WR, Naruto would be able to maintain his KCM cloak and therefore can use chakra arms.

Naruto blitzing will never be effective here. He will need to create FRS first, FRS doesn't move the same speed as Naruto, so once again White Rage goes off and its over.

Who said Naruto needs to use FRS? Chou Oodama Rasengan destroys the orb before it even goes off.

Naruto, nor anyone in NV will never ever ever ever attack a ninjutsu move, NEVER will that happen. Not in character, not with intel, not even with full intel.

*sigh* so I guess Itachi never attacked Sasuke's katon with Amaterasu, or Naruto never attacked Indra's arrow with his own jutsu, or Kakashi never attacked Zabuza's water dragon with another water dragon...If Naruto thinks Kabuto's jutsu poses a threat, he can try to attack it. Get this shit logic out of here. Lol.
 

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Uh, since when did being unable to move = you can't mold chakra properly? Itachi was maintaining Susanoo during WR, Naruto would be able to maintain his KCM cloak and therefore can use chakra arms.

Except Itachi =/= Naruto in the conditions. Sasuke = Naruto in these conditions since he has a real flesh body. . Having an Edo body isn't the same and wont have the same effect as a real body.

Who said Naruto needs to use FRS? Chou Oodama Rasengan destroys the orb before it even goes off.

Again thats never going to happen as its out of character to do, since the dragon isn't coming after him. Nor does he have intel on it. Nor is Naruto as smart as Itachi to analyze the move and counter it thoroughly.

*sigh* so I guess Itachi never attacked Sasuke's katon with Amaterasu, or Naruto never attacked Indra's arrow with his own jutsu, or Kakashi never attacked Zabuza's water dragon with another water dragon...If Naruto thinks Kabuto's jutsu poses a threat, he can try to attack it. Get this shit logic out of here. Lol.

NO this logic is the logic of exchange. It even has its own DB that characters attempt to overpower the others ninjutsu coming at each other.
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This isn't the same thing as White Rage doesn't attack the opponent while the opponents tries to outmatch it.
 

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Except Itachi =/= Naruto in the conditions. Sasuke = Naruto in these conditions since he has a real flesh body. . Having an Edo body isn't the same and wont have the same effect as a real body.

Except you have no proof that Itachi having an Edo body had anything to do with it, nor is that implied anywhere. White Rage removing Naruto's KCM cloak is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Again thats never going to happen as its out of character to do, since the dragon isn't coming after him. Nor does he have intel on it. Nor is Naruto as smart as Itachi to analyze the move and counter it thoroughly.

Naruto doesn't need to be smart or have intel to know that the jutsu Kabuto spat out of his mouth = bad, therefore Kabuto's jutsu needs to be destroyed.

NO this logic is the logic of exchange. It even has its own DB that characters attempt to overpower the others ninjutsu coming at each other.
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This isn't the same thing as White Rage doesn't attack the opponent while the opponents tries to outmatch it.

Lol I love how you try to argue that it's out of character for Naruto to attack the orb just because it's not fired off in Naruto's direction. I'm not going to respond to your fanboy posts anymore.
 

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Except you have no proof that Itachi having an Edo body had anything to do with it, nor is that implied anywhere. White Rage removing Naruto's KCM cloak is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Um yes I do. Edo Itachi was Edo. Sasuke was alive. Both has vastly the same move. Both have different effect in the vibrations.

When did I ever say KCM will be removed?? I clearly stated he will be paralized yet alone built chakra to protect himself for Kabuto's next attack.


Naruto doesn't need to be smart or have intel to know that the jutsu Kabuto spat out of his mouth = bad, therefore Kabuto's jutsu needs to be destroyed.

Base on what? did Itachi or Sasuke knew the jutsu need to be destroyed?

Lol I love how you try to argue that it's out of character for Naruto to attack the orb just because it's not fired off in Naruto's direction. I'm not going to respond to your fanboy posts anymore.

Thats because you have no argument. Everything you stated isn't supported. Then you want to leave it by ending your post with ad hominem.
 

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I'm thinking Kabuto mid-high diff.
 

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Naruto beats him mid diff.

-White Rage caused Susanoo to drop because the pain and vibration hurt so badly they couldn't actively maintain it. Naruto has no move he needs to maintain to use. If this is used, and Kabuto tries to finish him, Naruto kills him with a chakra arm and FRS. Chakra Arm can't be paralyzed since it's pure chakra.

-Sound Genjutsu is broken by Kurama.

-Manda II is useless due to the enclosed space. Not to mention a few FRS would obliterate it.

-Muki Tensei gets tanked or evaded.
 

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-White Rage caused Susanoo to drop because the pain and vibration hurt so badly they couldn't actively maintain it. Naruto has no move he needs to maintain to use. If this is used, and Kabuto tries to finish him, Naruto kills him with a chakra arm and FRS. Chakra Arm can't be paralyzed since it's pure chakra.

So Naruto can mold chakra under White Rage?
 

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Kabuto has literally many ways to rape Naruto, it's not even funny.
 

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Naruto, nor anyone in NV will never ever ever ever attack a ninjutsu move, NEVER will that happen. Not in character, not with intel, not even with full intel.
But itachi,bee and naruto attacked nagato's CT 's core when they realized it is the source of this gravity ,isn't that similar to the case here!!?
 

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Got proof that he can't? Cause I see no proof in the manga.

Are you asking me if a jutsu built of blinding light and deafening sound, due to the intensity of the resulting vibrations, paralysing pain is also induced, needs prove that it wont work? The jutsu canonically made a character unable to mold chakra property so why do I need proof that it won't work on another character? Are you asking me to remove deductive reasoning to prove something wrong? In every vs thread match up, with Kabuto using White Rage, do I also have to proof if the jutsu would wont on any character other then Sasuke?

I hope that isn't what your meant. I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt that it isn't.

Hopefully, you are at least asking me if Naruto doesn't need to mold chakra to use chakra arms and FRS. Even then I shouldn't have to back that up at its clear in the manga.

Kurama's chakra needs control: ,

And Rasengan is pretty clear[ ]. Not sure why you asking to prove these.

But itachi,bee and naruto attacked nagato's CT 's core when they realized it is the source of this gravity ,isn't that similar to the case here!!?

Are you asking me if these supports my point or yours/beans? Cause the full context of them countering it supports my point very clearly. Naruto had full intel, couldn't think of a counter. Itachi clams Naruto down and helps him think of a counter. Itachi was very intellectual about the situation and counter the jutsu thoroughly.

So how does this support Naruto destroying White Rage with manga intel? Yet alone full, when Itachi couldn't find White Rage predictable of its capability? Exactly why nothing supports Naruto doing this.
 
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