What is the difference between this two?

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  • Both are different abilities

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Sage Mode and Senjutsu, basically this two abilities is about manipulating Natural Energy.

But why RSM(Rikudou Sage Mode)can exist?, were not Rikudou power(Senjutsu) and Sage mode basically a power to manipulate Natural energy.

When Tobirama speculated only Senjutsu power can harm Juubito because he saw GamaKichi oil was not cancel by TSB, and his speculation is true.

That is mean Sage Mode Naruto is using Senjutsu power same as Rikudou power that is Senjutsu.

From that, there shouldn't exist any differences between Normal Sage Mode and Rikudou Mode.

My theory is Normal Sage Mode is lowest form of Senjutsu power while Rikudou Mode is the highest form of Senjutsu power.

I question this because I saw below picture
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Its show Naruto had Frog Sage mode pupil, that is mean he is on Sage Mode. But Rikudou mode itself is Sage Mode(Hagoromo own). How 2 Sage mode can combine in one person?

Or I'm wrong here. And what is your opinion?
 
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Senjutsu is Sage Jutsu, Jutsu are Techniques. In other words, the Jutsu or "techniques" used in Sage Mode or enhanced with Natural Energy. Before you ask, Senpou is Sage art.

Sennin Modo is Sage Mode too, while I'm at it.
 

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Senjutsu is Sage Jutsu, Jutsu are Techniques. In other words, the Jutsu or "techniques" used in Sage Mode or enhanced with Natural Energy. Before you ask, Senpou is Sage art.

Sennin Modo is Sage Mode too, while I'm at it.
OK, from that what can I say is, Sage Mode is lowest form of Nature Energy manipulation while Rikudou power is highest form of Natural energy manipulation.

Sage Mode user(Hashirama, Naruto) can use low level Senjutsu attack and Rikudou power(Hagoromo) can use high level Senjutsu attack
 

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Senjutsu is the entire arsenal of techniques in said mode. Sage Mode is the state of the body/mind. You don't seem to understand the concept of "sage" at all.
 

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OK, from that what can I say is, Sage Mode is lowest form of Nature Energy manipulation while Rikudou power is highest form of Natural energy manipulation.

Sage Mode user(Hashirama, Naruto) can use low level Senjutsu attack and Rikudou power(Hagoromo) can use high level Senjutsu attack
Sage Mode is Sage Mode... :|
 

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Sage mode is when you collect nature energy from nature
Rikudo sage mode is when you get the nature energy that the juubi is said to be made of
 

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Senjutsu is the entire arsenal of techniques in said mode. Sage Mode is the state of the body/mind. You don't seem to understand the concept of "sage" at all.
Yeah! I'm actually very confused about Senjutsu information.

Sage mode is when you collect nature energy from nature
Rikudo sage mode is when you get the nature energy that the juubi is said to be made of
I see it like this

OK, I understand Senjutsu=Natural energy base attack/technique.

Sage Mode=Lowest form of Nature energy state/mode

Sage of Six Path mode/Rikudou mode=Highest form of Nature energy state/mode

Its because I saw RSM(Rikudou Sage Mode) Naruto with frog eye pupil

Rikudou mode from Hago power up already a sage mode+Naruto own frog Sage mode. How two Nature mode can combine or coexist?

What do you think?
 
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There are actually two types of things NV using which you can use to gather natural energy. First thing is, Senjutsu/Normal sage mode which is affiliated with animals from the NV, second type of sage mode is associated with sage of Six paths and is associated with Bijuu/Tailed Beasts, which are actually related to Shinju, which itself is said to be one of the superior living creatures out there.
So in a way, they are related. Other sage modes are weak, because they are based upon the characteristics of the animals(Dragon sage mode of Kabuto gives him additional abilities related to snakes, Naruto's frog sage mode related to characteristics of Frog etc).
 

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Frog Senpou- high jump, frog kumite, senjustu, and frog summoning

Rikudou Senpou- flying, able to touch black rods/TSB, senjustu, and truth seeking orbs/power of nine bijuus.


As you know senjustu means natural energy, all different types of Senpou utilizes natural energy.

The chakra of all nine bijuus combined utilizes natural energy like the juubi.

Only through Ashura's incarnate will the result of rikudou Senpou will appear.

Indra's incarnate can't unless they follow some guidelines.
 

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Frog Senpou- high jump, frog kumite, senjustu, and frog summoning

Rikudou Senpou- flying, able to touch black rods/TSB, senjustu, and truth seeking orbs/power of nine bijuus.


As you know senjustu means natural energy, all different types of Senpou utilizes natural energy.

The chakra of all nine bijuus combined utilizes natural energy like the juubi.

Only through Ashura's incarnate will the result of rikudou Senpou will appear.

Indra's incarnate can't unless they follow some guidelines.
Can 2 Senpou coexist or combine with each other?

Like RSM Naruto as my scan above show, he has Frog Sage mode activated plus Rikudou Sage Mode activated.

That is mean two Sage mode combine or I wrong here?

Can Normal Sage mode users achieve Rikudou mode level without Bijuus power?
 
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