[Discussion] my oppinion why yonkou is not the same lvl of fleet or admiral lvl

[Peace Maker]

Remember how shanks completely nulified akainu atack

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and the fact that the marines need their full force just to beat one yonkou is enough to lets say that yonkou are different lvl from the marines..

But what happen to whitebeard Why he got rekt? Just like marco said, his age.. not only that i do really think tthat after whitebeard was stab his enormous power went full down... even he said that it didnt.. thats all it doesnt make sense right? But it does in some way..

 

[A v i]

I don't know about others but Shanks and Wb are clearly above admiral level.

 

[Ōkami]

Whitebeard was old and ill.

It took the entire Navy and Blackbeard pirates to bring him down though.

Also keep in mind that Whitebeard had no intention of leaving Marineford alive.

 

[Anduril]

I have been saying this for a long time,

Yonkou are >>> Admirals (Even if the yonkou is big mom)

 

[Kiiszame]

Lets not forget Kaido. He's a monster with a massve army.

Yonko >>>>>>>> Admirals.
If the yonkos waged war on the navy at once it be game, set, match.

 

[YellowFang]

As per my opinion,

Yonko aren't recognized by their individuality but the influence of their whole crew on the seas, though both WB and Shanks are monsters on their own...
There are certain individuals who rival a Yonko or Admiral one on one...

So, it doesn't matter if someone is stronger or equal to a Yonko...

If the yonkos waged war on the navy at once it be game, set, match.

That's going overboard, it'll be end of the world... Even 2 Yonko can wreak havoc on the whole Navy...

 

[Olorin]

the ''full force'' of the Marines didn't just beat the WB Pirates, it ANNIHILATED them completely, WB was teh only one capable of fighting an Admiral seriously and Akainu almost killed the guy

Garp, Sengoku, Akainu, Kuzan, Kizaru and Mihawk, all people who could fight with WB, were virtually uninjured except Akainu, and even Akainu was basically okay, he still pushed back all the pirates including the commanders AND killed Ace and keep in mind that Akainu DID take a FULL point blank hit from the Gura Gura and (based on the 775 chapters we can safely conclude that) the fruits powers DO NOT decrease with persons age or whatever

and a stab, etc isn't as big of a factor in OPV as most people make it out to be, just look at Luffy, just one example is when croc made a hole (that was much nastier than WB's) in Luffy, Luffy got beat up (half dead) and than dried up and beat up again (worse than half dead) while Croc was just as fresh as in their first fight, but Luffy did a lot better in the third fight than in the first one

so what if Shanks stopped Akainus punch (which was aimed at a KID), Kuzan fought for him for days so we can safely assume he could do the same

so, I wholeheartedly disagree with this thread and think that the Admirals are severely underrated while certain pirates (Roger, WB and Shanks especially) are overrated

 

[Anduril]

the ''full force'' of the Marines didn't just beat the WB Pirates, it ANNIHILATED them completely, WB was teh only one capable of fighting an Admiral seriously and Akainu almost killed the guy

Garp, Sengoku, Akainu, Kuzan, Kizaru and Mihawk, all people who could fight with WB, were virtually uninjured except Akainu, and even Akainu was basically okay, he still pushed back all the pirates including the commanders AND killed Ace and keep in mind that Akainu DID take a FULL point blank hit from the Gura Gura and (based on the 775 chapters we can safely conclude that) the fruits powers DO NOT decrease with persons age or whatever

and a stab, etc isn't as big of a factor in OPV as most people make it out to be, just look at Luffy, just one example is when croc made a hole (that was much nastier than WB's) in Luffy, Luffy got beat up (half dead) and than dried up and beat up again (worse than half dead) while Croc was just as fresh as in their first fight, but Luffy did a lot better in the third fight than in the first one

so what if Shanks stopped Akainus punch (which was aimed at a KID), Kuzan fought for him for days so we can safely assume he could do the same

so, I wholeheartedly disagree with this thread and think that the Admirals are severely underrated while certain pirates (Roger, WB and Shanks especially) are overrated

This is a prime example of the admiral wank I have been talking about that is very much present on the base. Where is Bajram? He wanks the hardest though.

 

[bajram]

The "it took the entire navy to stop WB" is pretty stupid, WB pirates got actually rekt without being able to kill any noticeable fighter during marineford but let alone kill them, they werent able to keep down at least one of the big names, considering how handicapped were the marines fighting with 4 shichi and having a top-tier screwing around because he loves his grandson and having Sengoku out of the conflict most of the time, in a way or another the admirals wrecked they're enemies and by the end of the war still had over 6 top-tier fighters with only one of them being hurt and akainu was still being able to push away all the commanders by himself and the WB pirates had the strongest yonko as captain so the reason u just gave are pretty invalid because yonkos arent well known just because of their individual prowess but because of their huge man power and different commanders, WB had over 46 ships with full pirates in marineford, its the same way marines arent known because of admirals the same is for yonkos, neither are known just for their inividual power, a yonko isnt the only top-tier the crew has.

 

[Anduril]

The "it took the entire navy to stop WB" is pretty stupid, WB pirates got actually rekt without being able to kill any noticeable fighter during marineford but let alone kill them, they werent able to keep down at least one of the big names, considering how handicapped were the marines fighting with 4 shichi and having a top-tier screwing around because he loves his grandson and having Sengoku out of the conflict most of the time, in a way or another the admirals wrecked they're enemies and by the end of the war still had over 6 top-tier fighters with only one of them being hurt and akainu was still being able to push away all the commanders by himself and the WB pirates had the strongest yonko as captain so the reason u just gave are pretty invalid because yonkos arent well known just because of their individual prowess but because of their huge man power and different commanders, WB had over 46 ships with full pirates in marineford, its the same way marines arent known because of admirals the same is for yonkos, neither are known just for their inividual power, a yonko isnt the only top-tier the crew has.

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What did I tell ya? xD​

 

[Olorin]

This is a prime example of the admiral wank I have been talking about that is very much present on the base. Where is Bajram? He wanks the hardest though.

okay now would you care to explain what in my post was wrong?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes it took the Fleet Admiral and his Navy forces to fight a Yonko.....and his immense fleet. People confuse the preparations for a Yonko's crew and HIS ARMY for the single Yonko himself. If Whitebeard had went in there alone, they would have taken turns raping the hole Akainu clawed into his chest.

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What did I tell ya? xD​

Actually all I see with this and your reply to Algalon is someone completely inept at refuting why they've said he's wrong because, quite frankly, he lacks the debating ability to, or they're completely right. Actually, it's probably both in this case. You belong in NDS.

 

[Hexuze]

I don't think they're in another league/level. The yonko's would be in high tier of admiral level IMO, the only people above admiral level are Roger, Prime WB & Garp. Admirals are pretty underrated when compared to yonko's.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Yes it took the Fleet Admiral and his Navy forces to fight a Yonko.....and his immense fleet. People confuse the preparations for a Yonko's crew and HIS ARMY for the single Yonko himself. If Whitebeard had went in there alone, they would have taken turns raping the hole Akainu clawed into his chest.

So it's ok to compare one Yonko against all the admirals but not all of the Yonko's crew? IF this was a 1v1 nobody else around between WB and Akainu or WB and Aokiji or WB and Kizaru it wouldn't be a low or mid-dif like a lot of people like to act lately. This should be A yonko vs A admiral discussion a simple 1v1 but everybody likes to try and blow it out of proportion with claims like WB could destroy the whole navy alone or Akainu would melt all the WB Pirates at once on his own, which no neither of them would have done that.

 

[giostep]

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What did I tell ya? xD​

this is too funny lol

 

[giostep]

So it's ok to compare one Yonko against all the admirals but not all of the Yonko's crew? IF this was a 1v1 nobody else around between WB and Akainu or WB and Aokiji or WB and Kizaru it wouldn't be a low or mid-dif like a lot of people like to act lately. This should be A yonko vs A admiral discussion a simple 1v1 but everybody likes to try and blow it out of proportion with claims like WB could destroy the whole navy alone or Akainu would melt all the WB Pirates at once on his own, which no neither of them would have done that.

Agree with this. We hav yet to see a Yonkou vs an Admiral 1 v 1. Also there are a few people that are as strong if not stronger then Admirals and Yonkou who arent really titles, such as Rayliegh, Akoji, and as far as im concerned Enel as well and we dont know how strong the crews of the Yonkou are and there is also CP0 as well. Yonkou and Admirals are just titles in an Orginization. Buggy is a Shiki and as far as i see he is not the best of fighters...

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Ummm garp barely fought and was in emotional turmoil

They had to vacant spots in shuchibanki (croc jinbei) and boa was going against them as well


Plus WB had help from mid-high tiers (not top but ivan cut guy croc and luffy)


Mihawk and doffy obviously wwasnt fighting full strength and was playing around (doffy shown by dressrosa feats and mihawk by portrayal)

All of white beard commanders were trying hardest to keep marines at bay but we're outclassed (not by a lot talking bout jozu and Marco)
But yeah no way shape or form were the marines at full strength.. also u have to add sengoku not really fighting and u cannot rule out goykuki yet (I believe they are strongest in navy along with fleet admiral) and was Kong there ???

 

[Olorin]

did I just see someone say Enel is as strong or stronger than a Yonko?

 

[Punk Hazard]

So it's ok to compare one Yonko against all the admirals but not all of the Yonko's crew? IF this was a 1v1 nobody else around between WB and Akainu or WB and Aokiji or WB and Kizaru it wouldn't be a low or mid-dif like a lot of people like to act lately. This should be A yonko vs A admiral discussion a simple 1v1 but everybody likes to try and blow it out of proportion with claims like WB could destroy the whole navy alone or Akainu would melt all the WB Pirates at once on his own, which no neither of them would have done that.

I think you misunderstood my post. I was addressing the OP's logic that all of that preparation for WB means WB is stronger the admirals is faulty because if it was just WB, he would be raped. It's far more than what's necessary. A single Yonko would drive a single Admiral to extreme diff in a 1 vs 1.

 

[bajram]

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What did I tell ya? xD​

I gave my opinion, I couldnt care less about what u think but instead why dont u try proving me wrong or the people who gave away the same opinion instead of trying to spout crap like I or someone else wanks the marines or admirals or whatever.

If I am an example of admiral wanking u are an example of yonko wanking, the avatar and sig tells pretty much how much u ride shanks in almost all of the threads.