Is this really shonen manga concept?

[Ansatsuken]

In the end of the series in shonen type manga, all MC must be more powerful than their previously powerful characters even a godlike characters.

Not achieve that goal, it is mean those series will be a fail shonen manga.

DB achieve it as we can said End of Saga Goku has surpass Kid Buu

Toriko sure will surpass all very powerful beings in his verse in the future.

Bleach -Ditto-

Naruto not sure, but maybe he has surpass Kaguya already.

Is that really a Shonen manga concept in which MC will become all powerful in their respective series when its end?

Let say if the manga continue in new season, the MC will push themself and try to topple next powerful persons and on and on .

All thing is about MC, the center of everything.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Shonen manga are not defined by power levels.

 

[Gerkak]

Kid buu isn't the strongest buu, buuhan(the one vegito fought) is, I doubt naruto has surpassed kaguya.

But I agree it is a shonen thing

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Being a Shonen manga just refers to the target audience. They can also be unique.

 

[IceSlayer]

Don't think that's how it works

 

[Ansatsuken]

Kid buu isn't the strongest buu, buuhan(the one vegito fought) is, I doubt naruto has surpassed kaguya.

But I agree it is a shonen thing

Yes, although buuhan is the strongest but he is combination, but still before end of Saga, individually without combination, Kid Buu is the strongest of all. And End Saga Goku individually sure has surpass Kid Buu in power.

 

[Gerkak]

Yes, although buuhan is the strongest but he is combination, but still before end of Saga, individually without combination, Kid Buu is the strongest of all. And End Saga Goku individually sure has surpass Kid Buu in power.

I guess so.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Being a Shonen manga just refers to the target audience. They can also be unique.

Yeah, I want to see which shonen manga apart the completed one(DB, Naruto, R+V etc) not become be all and end all like TOAA, I mean MC is the most powerful in the end

One piece, bleach , Toriko, H×H, FT etc. I will wait for it

 

[Dockinabix]

Being a Shonen manga just refers to the target audience. They can also be unique.

Oh someone with common sense and some basic knowledge. It getting rare on this days full of retards.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes, although buuhan is the strongest but he is combination, but still before end of Saga, individually without combination, Kid Buu is the strongest of all. And End Saga Goku individually sure has surpass Kid Buu in power.

Super Buu and Kid Buu are about the same level.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

Shonen manga are not defined by power levels.

Unless they're over 9000

 

[Dockinabix]

Yeah, I want to see which shonen manga apart the completed one(DB, Naruto, R+V) not become be all and end all like TOAA, I mean MC is the most powerful in the end

One piece, bleach , Toriko, H×H etc. I will wait for it

Rurouni kenshin for the last sentence before examples.
Love hina, G.E, Kangoku gakuen, GTO, Domexkano... I can go on.

All shounen aren't only combat related or becoming strong. Saying the contrary is pure dumbness.

 

[Gerkak]

Super Buu and Kid Buu are about the same level.

Super buu is stronger than kid buu

ssj3 goku>kid buu

Goku admitted inferiority to super buu. Their power levels show this as well

ssj3 goku: 24 billion
super buu: 32 billion

 

[Ansatsuken]

Being a Shonen manga just refers to the target audience. They can also be unique.

Shonen is about fighting.

MC is the center of everything, unless good authors can write their MC not as center of gravity or not get anything manga can offer to them, is OK

I dont know what Luffy will become in the future but I can smell that Toriko will become the most powerful character in his series, Ichigo when I look at him, I can see the hint, Natsu sure is in the future.

 

[Dockinabix]

Shonen is about fighting.

This is the dumbest thing I've read this week ( And I happen to read lot of crap on facebook)

 

[Ansatsuken]

Rurouni kenshin for the last sentence before examples.
Love hina, G.E, Kangoku gakuen, GTO, Domexkano... I can go on.

All shounen aren't only combat related or becoming strong. Saying the contrary is pure dumbness.

OK, what about well known or very popular manga with million of manga sales?

I know there are shonen that has good story telling, but those manga is not top sale manga like what I list here

This is the dumbest thing I've read this week ( And I happen to read lot of crap on facebook)

I know Shonen is for boy while Shojo is for girl although there are girl that into Shonen.

But the most prominent theme of Shonen manga is fighting.

Let me rephrase back

Is this really one of Shonen manga concepts? I mean MC get all things or become more powerful than previous person?

 

[Dockinabix]

OK, what about well known or very popular manga with million of manga sales?

I know there are shonen that has good story telling, but those manga is not top sale manga like what I list here

Love Hina, G.E, Kangoku gakuen, Rurouni kenshin, GTO are millions sellers in japan and worldwide .

Love hina was ****in popular on his time ( winning multiple shonen awards), G.E too sold like hell.
Kangoku gakuen is taking all manga awards on shonen, Rurouni kenshin is one of the most known samurai shonen worldwide, they are still making movies even though it ended 15 years ago.
GTO is the most known school related shonen making millions, having drama recently even though it ended 13 years ago.

If you just know recent big names then you know nothing about manga nor shonen and have no place to act like an analyst ^^

I know Shonen is for boy while Shojo is for girl although there are girl that into Shonen.

But the most prominent theme of Shonen manga is fighting.

Let me rephrase back

Is this really one of Shonen manga concepts? I mean MC get all things or become more powerful than previous person?

Yep it happens.
Major. One of the biggest and respected sports shonen. Lots of strong characters are put away and only a very few keep with the MC.
Hajime no ippo: Biggest boxing and combat sports manga today. Lots opponents of the MC retired after fighting the MC or a few time after.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Shonen: a genre of Japanese comics and animated films aimed primarily at a young male audience, typically characterized by action-filled plots.

It has nothing to do with how strong the main character gets. However, the reason you see this often is because authors know that young boys prefer action and less plot. But it isn't a requirement.

 

[Dockinabix]

However, the reason you see this often is because authors know that young boys prefer action and less plot. But it isn't a requirement.

It's more the Editors who ask it ( even though authors do it too when they are aware). I met one, a few years ago while studying, and I was quite surprised by what he looked first.

 

[Lost Woods Denizen]

In Japan we have a saying that the three concepts of Shonen Jump (not shonen manga as a whole, as there are many different shonen manga not only found in that magazine) are hardwork, friendship, and victory. These are the the three themes that you will find in every Shonen Jump manga, dating back to the origins.

Because each manga is different, and each author's concept of "strength" is different, there will be times when the protagonist is not the strongest character shown in the manga by the end of the story (Goku most certainly was not.) However, that is not what we consider to be an important issue, and it is definitely not the "point" of the shonen manga. Strength by itself is not a lesson that we aim to teach children, and this is exactly WHY the protagonists win in SPITE of not always being stronger than the main antagonist.

What do you think?