Minato vs Mū

[TRE MERCER]

Minato low difficulty.

Minato makes clones and tag each of them. Once Mu attacks a clone Minato uses ftg to blitz him. If Muu uses fission Mu Minato simple creates more clones and await the process. Can fission Mu even use Jinton? ​

 

[Gold Lightning]

Minato low difficulty.

Minato makes clones and tag each of them. Once Mu attacks a clone Minato uses ftg to blitz him. If Muu uses fission Mu Minato simple creates more clones and await the process. Can fission Mu even use Jinton? ​

Divided Mu cannot use Jinton.

Also there is no need to mark clones, you can FTG straight to them due to the chakra link. Or for better precaution, each clone stands over a kunai, in order to quickly react to Mu's attacks.

 

[ARGUS]

Minato wins this high diff, i agree with what gold said

--forming a few clones and either having them within close proximity to the real minato or have them spread out enforces muu to eventually attack one or the other, and the instant he attempts to attack either of them, minato instantly teleports to the close markings and cuts him down with an FTG slash

--the probability of muu attacking the real minato right at the very beginning is bare minimal, and even if he does, then minato having the clones here can immediately attack him, by teleporting the instant he senses some air movement around him,

--buntas oil being a possible counter to muus water based invisibility is also likely, whilst jinton is non factor once minato spreads out his markings, or infont of the S/T barrier having the possiblity of backfiring muu

 

[DMT]

coming from Mu best fan, Minato wins high diff

speed + sensory abilities grants him the win

 

[Conspirator.]

Minato wins. Shadow clones + FTG allow him to evade all of Mu's attacks. S/T barrier could warp Jinton away in the worst case scenario. Bunta and his oil can be used to locate Mu as well if necessary. Once he's located, he drills a rasengan through Mu's skull.

 

[makosheva7]

Minato is too quick for Mu. Mid diff at most for sc 1. Low-mid diff at most for sc 2.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Alright, I'll agree with the consensus. I still don't think Bunta's oil is going to do him any good, but whatever

 

[Haizaki]

Minato most likely probably but struggles hard as Mu shouldn't be underestimated.

That oil strategy is indeed useless when:

- Mu can levitate slightly above ground level without touching it.

- How is Minato himself escaping the Range of this sticky oil? Not a wise choice when he has clones as well.

Toad Oil Bullet (蝦蟇油弾, Gama Yudan)
Ninjutsu, C-rank, Offensive, Supplementary, Short to mid-range (0-10m)
User: Jiraiya

A sticky bullet, overwhelming those unprepared*
A hell of movement-restricting oil!!

A technique that changes chakra prepared inside the body into oil and spits it out as a huge mass. When this extremely sticky oil touches the target, their entire body is covered, preventing them from moving. Furthermore, if a Fire Release technique is thrown at the target after this technique is used, they will be enveloped in flames in an instant.

[picture of Jiraiya performing the Toad Oil Bullet]
→↓The "Oil Bullet" covers Konan's body, making it stick!! Because it's oil, simply washing it away with just water won't be easy...!!
[picture of Konan being covered by Jiraiya's oil]

*The Japanese for this sentence is 「油断大敵粘着弾」 ("Yudan Taiteki Nenchakudan"). Nenchakudan means "sticky bullet". "Yudan Taiteki" is a Japanese proverb, meaning "unpreparedness is one's greatest enemy". There's a pun involved here: Yudan (油断, unpreparedness, negligence) is written with the kanji for "oil" and "failure" and is pronounced the same as "oil bullet".

- Mu goes invisible but can still see the real Minato while Minato can't see nor sense him.

- Mu doesn't have to be visible to hit Minato..Not at all especially when he was invisible, he made foot prints upon stepping on the ground which shows that he can still affect the visible while invisible. That makes things bad for Minato as he'll literally be attacked by what he can't see.

- Minato would literally have to be ready but when he's hit in Pain, does he really react that quick?

- Minato creates clones, Mu uses his fission technique and with Manga intel, Minato's clones can see the real Mianto being attacked but won't know when they themselves are attacked by the other Mu.

- Don't sleep on Mu's reflexes:

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- Highly doubt Minato's clones would be doing much against that Man when you consider someone like the 3rd Raikage was there.

- Highly doubt Minato's clones would attack what they can't see and if Mu ready to attack, he must be ready to evade at that second so he doesn't give away his position.

 

[maniaoqan]

- No, Mū kept his distance because he knew Gaara's sensor sand was spread around the area, and said sensor sand is what saved Ōnoki from getting killed. Mū's invisibility completely hides his presence and chakra signature Implicatively, if he's hiding his presence, he's hiding his scent as well. Also, since this technique is superior to Taiseki's camoflage, which can be sensed via smell and and seen with dojutsu (or by the naked eye from a short distance), it stands to reason that Mū cannot be seen by dojutsu, nor can he be sniffed out.
- Really? Well, Ōnoki, who is also kage level shinobi, wasn't able to smell Mū when he was right behind him ready to send the old guy to the afterlife.
- Ok, and I already said why I think kage bunshins are useless here.

-Ohnoki faced Mu alone for some time while Gaara dealed with his father. If his technique worked the way you described he would've killed Ohnoki within the minute.
-Databook clearly states how Mu's technique works. ''Utilises water vapour to bend the light around the user'' How is it concealing sound or smell ? It is simply a illusion of light to conceal your appearence, thus making you invisible not odorless. By 'presence' it is obvious what is meant.
-Despite his age he hold his ground for a time. He was almost getting caught if not Gaara's intervention.
And if you're thinking Ohnoki is unable to sense him you're mistaken. Because of his old age it was obvious he would've slipped any moment, fighting against someone like Mu requires constant focus in the fight, you can't afford to pant like this.

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He gave an opening because of exhaustion.
-Kagebunshins are not useless in this fight, when combined with FTG they're game changer.

 

[Zexion~]

Mu wins

Minato can't react with his kunai in time to stop jinton, he may be able to avoid it but after a while he'd be overwhelmed

Assuming this isn't BM

 

[Beans2]

Mu wins

Minato can't react with his kunai in time to stop jinton, he may be able to avoid it but after a while he'd be overwhelmed

Assuming this isn't BM

you just went full retard bro

I agree. Muu blitzes.

 

[Zexion~]

you just went full retard bro

I agree. Muu blitzes.

Wait... Whut?


I wouldn't say blitzes as Minato can still avoid the jinton, but finding out where Mu uncovers himself and then throwing a kunai far enough to reach him before he fires it off? Nah not happening Summonings may help here but they just make a bigger target

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

-Ohnoki faced Mu alone for some time while Gaara dealed with his father. If his technique worked the way you described he would've killed Ohnoki within the minute.
-Databook clearly states how Mu's technique works. ''Utilises water vapour to bend the light around the user'' How is it concealing sound or smell ? It is simply a illusion of light to conceal your appearence, thus making you invisible not odorless. By 'presence' it is obvious what is meant.
-Despite his age he hold his ground for a time. He was almost getting caught if not Gaara's intervention.
And if you're thinking Ohnoki is unable to sense him you're mistaken. Because of his old age it was obvious he would've slipped any moment, fighting against someone like Mu requires constant focus in the fight, you can't afford to pant like this.

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He gave an opening because of exhaustion.
-Kagebunshins are not useless in this fight, when combined with FTG they're game changer.

- Not really, Mū faced Ōnoki for about a minute and took out the Iwa Bunshins that he made off panel while Gaara was sealing his father

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- Like I said, here you can see Ōnoki being saved from certain death by Gaara's sensor sand.
- Never said it erases his sound, just that it hides his scent. Sound isn't something one ceases to make, but it should be noted that Mū's pretty silent when he flies considering Ōnoki didn't hear him either.
- No, Ōnoki can't sense him, and neither can Minato while he's invisible. Maybe shinobi with heightened senses like Kakashi or Hiruzen can, but no other kage has shown to have heightened senses like the former two.

 

[Beans2]

Wait... Whut?


I wouldn't say blitzes as Minato can still avoid the jinton, but finding out where Mu uncovers himself and then throwing a kunai far enough to reach him before he fires it off? Nah not happening Summonings may help here but they just make a bigger target

Minato is a sensor so he would detect Mu's position the instant he goes visible to use jinton. He doesn't need to throw a kunai then teleport to it every time he wants to teleport either, if he marks the battlefield or scatters his kunai.

 

[Zexion~]

Minato is a sensor so he would detect Mu's position the instant he goes visible to use jinton. He doesn't need to throw a kunai then teleport to it every time he wants to teleport either, if he marks the battlefield or scatters his kunai.

He can't mark the air? Nor can he scatter kunai in it.

Pretty sure his sensing requires concentration and its not instant. Doesn't invisibility negate sensing until he appears anyways and again Minato won't have enough time to sense and then ftg to stop him and harm him.

Especially with fission clone feints.

 

[maniaoqan]

- Not really, Mū faced Ōnoki for about a minute and took out the Iwa Bunshins that he made off panel while Gaara was sealing his father

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- Like I said, here you can see Ōnoki being saved from certain death by Gaara's sensor sand.
- Never said it erases his sound, just that it hides his scent. Sound isn't something one ceases to make, but it should be noted that Mū's pretty silent when he flies considering Ōnoki didn't hear him either.
- No, Ōnoki can't sense him, and neither can Minato while he's invisible. Maybe shinobi with heightened senses like Kakashi or Hiruzen can, but no other kage has shown to have heightened senses like the former two.

-So entire all touching moment Gaara had with his pops lasted a minute. Wow they sure speak fast.

-Like i said it was an opening Ohnoki gave considering his old age and exhaustion, it is understandable to slip. How come Mu couldn't catched Ohnoki this way right in the beginning and had to drag this fight until Gaara has his hearth moment ? I tell you, he couldn't. He only had that chance because Ohnoki couldn't keep his head on the fight because of exhaustion. Even Mu commented his age.

-And i say how come this erases scent ? It is manipulating lights to hide ones appearance. It only deceives eyes, and Mu suppressing his chakra along with this technique gave him the fame of invisible man not odorless man.

-If Ohnoki couldn't sensed Mu with his other senses, he would've died right in the beginning. It is a feat considering he managed to hold that long with that age and back problems. Minato is a kage level shinobi, even if his specialty isn't smelling like an Inuzuka he still has skill at all expertises of being shinobi which is required of a kage.