Minato vs Mū

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Minato can't sense Mu with him invincible. But Mu has to be visible to attack and Minato is a sensor as well, Mu can't sneak attack Minato. The moment Mu decides to attack he'll get the taste of a rasengan.
 

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Minato can't sense Mu with him invincible. But Mu has to be visible to attack and Minato is a sensor as well, Mu can't sneak attack Minato. The moment Mu decides to attack he'll get the taste of a rasengan.
No, he doesn't have to be visible to attack. He has to be visible to use chakra.

He would have blindsided Ōnoki while invisible if it wasn't for Gaara's sensor sand.

Mū was skilled in kenjutsu when he was alive, so imagine the amount of people he could kill just by going invisible and stabbing them
 

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Multiple shadow clones in order to cause confusion. Dozens of kunai scattered the across the battlefield. If there's even a twich or anomaly in the air, or a single clone goes poof, Minatos there in a flash.

Gamabunta to surround the area with oil, in the hope of catching Mu and therefore revealing his presence with sticky oil (making invisibility obsolete)

Honestly, Mu is better off if he stays visible. Otherwise it's just a waiting game.
 

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Multiple shadow clones in order to cause confusion. Dozens of kunai scattered the across the battlefield. If there's even a twich or anomaly in the air, or a single clone goes poof, Minatos there in a flash.

Gamabunta to surround the area with oil, in the hope of catching Mu and therefore revealing his presence with sticky oil (making invisibility obsolete)

Honestly, Mu is better off if he stays visible. Otherwise it's just a waiting game.
- Mū will sense the presense of several Minatos, so he'd just throw kunais at them instead of facing them directly
- The oil isn't touching Mū, not when the latter has superlative reflexes and good flight speed
- He'll get tagged with Hiraishin Second Step if he stays visible
 

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Good luck to Minato since he can't sense him while invisible, nor does he have any hightened senses like Kakashi and Hiruzen
Minato >> Both Of Them In Sensing.

- Mū will sense the presense of several Minatos, so he'd just throw kunais at them instead of facing them directly
Like They Gonna Get hit Lol
 
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Minato >> Both Of Them In Sensing.
He meant other senses. Not just chakra sensing, Minato is obviously better at chakra sensing than Hiruzen and Kakashi. But there are smell, sound and stuff. Kakashi and Hiruzen could locate Mu by smell for instance.

Mu isn't shown to be have silent killing or something like that. Minato was able to fly away from Raikage's punch which was inch away from his face. If Mu tries something like that even with invincible(his camouflage will be visible at that distance) Minato will know of his location, he can't run away from Minato like that and will get marked.
 

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He meant other senses. Not just chakra sensing, Minato is obviously better at chakra sensing than Hiruzen and Kakashi. But there are smell, sound and stuff. Kakashi and Hiruzen could locate Mu by smell for instance.

Mu isn't shown to be have silent killing or something like that. Minato was able to fly away from Raikage's punch which was inch away from his face. If Mu tries something like that even with invincible(his camouflage will be visible at that distance) Minato will know of his location, he can't run away from Minato like that and will get marked.
- Right, Mū going invisible, coming up behind you and stabbing you is probably more effective than silent killing
- Him being invisible isn't him camoflaging himself. He won't be visible from any distance before the naked eye.
- Ay was blitzing him head on, Muu is going to do anything but
- I'm not sure about this, but I think Muu can get around being marked by splitting himself, so that one body is marked and the other one isn't
 

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- Right, Mū going invisible, coming up behind you and stabbing you is probably more effective than silent killing
- Him being invisible isn't him camoflaging himself. He won't be visible from any distance before the naked eye.
- Ay was blitzing him head on, Muu is going to do anything but
- I'm not sure about this, but I think Muu can get around being marked by splitting himself, so that one body is marked and the other one isn't
Mu's technique works by manipulating water to bend to light arround him thus putting him in a camouflage. With close distance you could figure the distortion in the environment. This technique helps him hide his appearence not his smell of sound. Minato can still rely on other senses if Mu approaches from a blank point.
With Ay example I was pointing out Minato's reaction speed. He could avoid Mu's attempts with ease.

If Mu splits himself, considering he will use chakra Minato will sense there will be 2 Mu's. He would think its a kage bunshin or other elemental bunshin assuming he doesn't have any intel on this technique. It wouldn't caught him by suprise, he can respond with his kage bunshins.
 

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Mu's technique works by manipulating water to bend to light arround him thus putting him in a camouflage. With close distance you could figure the distortion in the environment. This technique helps him hide his appearence not his smell of sound. Minato can still rely on other senses if Mu approaches from a blank point.
With Ay example I was pointing out Minato's reaction speed. He could avoid Mu's attempts with ease.

If Mu splits himself, considering he will use chakra Minato will sense there will be 2 Mu's. He would its a kage bunshin or other elemental bunshin assuming he doesn't have any intel on this technique. It wouldn't caught him by suprise, he can respond with his kage bunshins.
- Mū is completely hiding his presence, including his body, so there wouldn't be any distortion. It sounds like you're referring to the jutsu that Taiseki used, which is inferior and can be seen at a close enough distance around his body. Like I said, Minato hasn't showed any hightened senses, so trying to locate Mū that way would be futile for him.
- Ok, but it'd be harder to avoid someone who you can't sense, see, or smell coming up from behind you and stabbing you. Specifically someone who is fast and has great reactions and reflexes
- Fission is a technique on a completely different level compared to cloning. He might sense the presense of another Mu the second he splits, but they'd immediately go invisible and change location. I already said why I think bunshins are rather useless here
 

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- Mū is completely hiding his presence, including his body, so there wouldn't be any distortion. It sounds like you're referring to the jutsu that Taiseki used, which is inferior and can be seen at a close enough distance around his body. Like I said, Minato hasn't showed any hightened senses, so trying to locate Mū that way would be futile for him.
- Ok, but it'd be harder to avoid someone who you can't sense, see, or smell coming up from behind you and stabbing you. Specifically someone who is fast and has great reactions and reflexes
- Fission is a technique on a completely different level compared to cloning. He might sense the presense of another Mu the second he splits, but they'd immediately go invisible and change location. I already said why I think bunshins are rather useless here
-Mu hides his appearence by manipulating water to bend lights around him. Something like that would be seen through from a close distance, if not Mu would've killed Ohnoki and Gaara by sneaking up on them.
-He also conceals his chakra to a point it cannot be sensed, not his smell nor his sound. Minato is a kage level shinobi, saying he can't sense someone by smell or sound is utterly ridiculous. The moment Minato senses Mu its not a problem to avoid the possible attack for Minato and the moment Mu tries something like that he'll seal his fate.
-I said Minato will assume Mu's technique is some type of Kage Bunshin since he has no intel on it as we know of. And he can counter that Split body with kage bunshins considering he'll have FTG with his Kage bunshins and can teleport to them or they can summon him.
 

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-Mu hides his appearence by manipulating water to bend lights around him. Something like that would be seen through from a close distance, if not Mu would've killed Ohnoki and Gaara by sneaking up on them.
-He also conceals his chakra to a point it cannot be sensed, not his smell nor his sound. Minato is a kage level shinobi, saying he can't sense someone by smell or sound is utterly ridiculous. The moment Minato senses Mu its not a problem to avoid the possible attack for Minato and the moment Mu tries something like that he'll seal his fate.
-I said Minato will assume Mu's technique is some type of Kage Bunshin since he has no intel on it as we know of. And he can counter that Split body with kage bunshins considering he'll have FTG with his Kage bunshins and can teleport to them or they can summon him.
- No, Mū kept his distance because he knew Gaara's sensor sand was spread around the area, and said sensor sand is what saved Ōnoki from getting killed. Mū's invisibility completely hides his presence and chakra signature Implicatively, if he's hiding his presence, he's hiding his scent as well. Also, since this technique is superior to Taiseki's camoflage, which can be sensed via smell and and seen with dojutsu (or by the naked eye from a short distance), it stands to reason that Mū cannot be seen by dojutsu, nor can he be sniffed out.
- Really? Well, Ōnoki, who is also kage level shinobi, wasn't able to smell Mū when he was right behind him ready to send the old guy to the afterlife.
- Ok, and I already said why I think kage bunshins are useless here.
 

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- Mū will sense the presense of several Minatos, so he'd just throw kunais at them instead of facing them directly
- The oil isn't touching Mū, not when the latter has superlative reflexes and good flight speed
- He'll get tagged with Hiraishin Second Step if he stays visible
it's a giant mass of oil that bunta can spit out. If he sprays it all over, there is a high chance it will him Mu. Superlative reflexes? Don't make me laugh.

What does sensing the presence of several minatos mean? You're acting like Mu can't see them or something. It doesn't matter if he can sense minato or see them, the point it taking them out.

Kunai aren't invisible, so throwing them will just help minato locate mu easily. That is a terrible tactic. Because not only will all minatos clones be watching every direction. Bunta with his giant self can also watch the area from greater height, Mu will just give his location away. Throwing visible kunai are easily reacted to, any high level ninja is aware of incoming kunai, even if it's from their blind spot

So no, throwing kuani to take out clones isn't gonna work. Don't forget all minatos clones can evade simply using ftg at the last second. Physical evasion isn't even needed.
 
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