obito kamuing back to life is not BS

[legarcon]

Obito kamuing back to life is not BS, let me start explaining.

First of all the concept that chakra links both worlds the pure world(afterlife) and impure world(world of the living) had been introduced before obito kamui himself back to the impure world, in fact the concept was introduced in part 1 when orochimaru introduced to us the edo tensei.

The edo tensei as we know is a summoning technique which summons the souls from the pure world back to the impure world. But what is a summoning technique?? a summoning technique is a kind of spacetime technique, so with edo tensei we did get a confirmation that chakra linked both worlds, we also confirmed that using chakra and a spacetime technique you can travel through such worlds.

So now obito got back to the impure world using kamui, but what is kamui? kamui is a spacetime technique that is been praised as a far superior technique than that of the second and forth hokages and is probably the most haxxed technique of NV. Then if an inferior spacetime technique as a summoning technique can bring back people from pure world why kamui shouldnt if kamui is far superior?

So the concepts were there ever since oro fought hiruzen, kishi had already showed us dead people can come back to life through spacetime techniques and kamui being the most superior of all spacetime techniques, it should make sense obito could bring himself back from death.

 

[Vapids Will]

lol Let your fav enjoy the afterlife

 

[Torche]

I can explain it much more simpler...

Obito transmigrated into Kakashi. Obito was once a Rikudou Sennin and did the same thing as Hagoromo, to "Kamui back".

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[Pirate King]

edo doesnt bring people back to our world, it basically makes them in a new body, thats why they need a sacrifice

 

[Ventuis]

I can explain it much more simpler...

Obito transmigrated into Kakashi. Obito was once a Rikudou Sennin and did the same thing as Hagoromo, to "Kamui back".

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^^ Essentially this.

 

[Angelic.]

he got it from kabutos explanation

 

[Venomous Cobra]

10/10 threaad ,i agree it ain't an asspull,people have no prove whatsoever that heaven/pure world isn't just a dimensions

 

[Joon]

The fact Kishi said "Chakra connects both worlds" later in the manga makes it bullshit. It should have been explained earlier.

 

[legarcon]

edo doesnt bring people back to our world, it basically makes them in a new body, thats why they need a sacrifice

edo tensei summons their souls with a summoning technique which is a spacetime technique, but since in the pure world they dont have a physical body when they come back they need a vessel to be put if they want to stay in this world, besides when they died their bodies decayed so they cant go back to ther own bodies that why they need a new body

The fact Kishi said "Chakra connects both worlds" later in the manga makes it bullshit. It should have been explained earlier.

it wasnt explained directly but when orochimaru edo tensei the first and second in part one, the fact chakra connected both worlds was implied, how could orochimaru summon a soul from heaven if heaven and the world of the living were not connected?
if both worlds werent connected edo tensei wouldnt have worked as the chakra orochimaru used to summon wouldnt have gotten there, so the fact edo tensei works well is a prove on its own

 

[Torche]

The fact Kishi said "Chakra connects both worlds" later in the manga makes it bullshit. It should have been explained earlier.

Better late than never.

How did you think the Edo Tensei retrieved the souls of the deceased if it wasn't in some way connected? :|

 

[DoubleKamui]

Seems legit but I still find Kakashi gaining PS BS.

 

[Char Aznable]

Obito coming back from limbo (where Rin's soul was apparantly having never crossed over) to give Kakashi the temporary DMS was an asspull. Just like Madara using Susanno without eyes.

 

[Torche]

Obito coming back from limbo (where Rin's soul was apparantly having never crossed over) to give Kakashi the temporary DMS was an asspull. Just like Madara using Susanno without eyes.

I'll copy 'n' paste too. Lol

Funily enough, I've explained both cases numerous times.

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I can explain it much more simpler...

Obito transmigrated into Kakashi. Obito was once a Rikudou Sennin and did the same thing as Hagoromo, to "Kamui back".

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^If you can't grasp it from that I won't bother, and there is no hope.

 

[Joon]

Better late than never.

How did you think the Edo Tensei retrieved the souls of the deceased if it wasn't in some way connected? :|

I wasn't thinking of Edo Tensei at the time. Nothing was ever implied its concept was similar to/ the same as Edo Tensei when Obito said "the worlds connect".:|

 

[Torche]

I wasn't thinking of Edo Tensei at the time. Nothing was ever implied its concept was similar to/ the same as Edo Tensei when Obito said "the worlds connect".:|

Soul to DNA (DNA contains chakra as seen when Madara bit off some of Hashirama's flesh) which forms their body on a sacrifice. It's all there if you think about it.

 

[Conspirator.]

Seems legit but I still find Kakashi gaining PS BS.

I have to go with this.

 

[Torche]

Seems legit but I still find Kakashi gaining PS BS.

I have to go with this.

Explained that in my post. :|

Another example would be thinking of Kakashi as Nagato's paths, and Obito's chakra which transmigrated as Nagato.

 

[legarcon]

Explained that in my post. :|

Another example would be thinking of Kakashi as Nagato's paths, and Obito's chakra which transmigrated as Nagato.

he's right when nagato and obito used the chakra transmiters to create the 6 paths of pain, even though the original bodies didnt have a rinnegan, they acquired a rinnegan through the chakra of nagato and obito

 

[Torche]

he's right when nagato and obito used the chakra transmiters to create the 6 paths of pain, even though the original bodies didnt have a rinnegan, they acquired a rinnegan through the chakra of nagato and obito

They didn't acquire a legitimate Rinnegan, it was like when MT was cast, or when Bijuu are controlled. It shows they are under control. But, they could use the abilities of the eyes through the chakra which was connected to the original.

 

[KidGamer65]

OP actually has an excellent point.