Kid Kakashi vs Kid Neji

[Icelerate]

The thread proves nothing, 60% voted for Kakashi and 40 % for neji
Between jonin kid kakashi and chunin exam neji is a wide gab.
Look at the statement of t bogard, comment number 16, this sums it up very good !

That post proves that kid Kakashi is superior to pre Yin Seal Sakura but part one Neji is too so how does that prove anything in regards to this matchup? Not to mention Bogard was grasping at straws.

The poll isn't what I want you to look at. It is the arguments and the debaters giving the arguments.

 

[ATD]

That post proves that kid Kakashi is superior to pre Yin Seal Sakura but part one Neji is too so how does that prove anything in regards to this matchup? Not to mention Bogard was grasping at straws.

The poll isn't what I want you to look at. It is the arguments and the debaters giving the arguments.

i read a few arguments, there was the people who supported Kakashi and the people who supported neji, i don't now where i find this special post, you only linked me to the thread itself.

 

[super yang]

neji wins both scenes, SRA neji isn't even necessary vs 2-tomoe either, just CE neji

 

[KingHashirama]

Implying IJM Naruto wouldn't beat Kid Kakashi w/o Sharingan ? Yeah, alright.

Neji had one on-screen fight on a mission against an actual enemy, Kidomaru. Who was strong enough to take down Konoha Jonins. And we all know Konoha Jonins > Iwa Jonins.

Neji own in both scenarios. Kid Kakashi is slower, and weaker in taijutsu.

Konoha jounin > Kidomaru in a 1 vs 1...

 

[makosheva7]

Kakashi high diff for sc 1. Kakashi low-mid diff for sc 2.

 

[maniaoqan]

Lord Kakashi takes this without Sharingan. He blitzes so hard its not even funny.

 

[neosmith500]

Neji low diffs the first scenario and mid diffs the second.

That jonin title given in a time of war and struggle is not winning kakashi this battle , gai directly compared young kakashi to chunin prelims sasuke.

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Kakashi as a adult was in awe when he saw only a small sample of neji's power despite having recently said the hyuga were konoha's greatest bloodline and it was confirmed by hiruzen abd how the general public viewed the hyuga that they were a clan of expected genius and skill.

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Kid kakashi would have a hard enough time beating a rested chunin prelims sasuke who kept up with haku and orochimaru , same haku who was hyped by zabuza who kicked adult kakashi into prison to bein above his level and bein a very capable ninja.

Sharingan would able sasuke to see kakashi's jab and react to which kakashi who had no sharingan could not see the counter , ib4 kakashi fans claim he has lee speed so he will blitz , lee himself noted this

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The reason why his raikiri was incomplete in the first place , so kid kakashi loses to prelims sasuke who adult kakashi noted stood no chance against neji who only gave a sample of his power as noted by kankuro

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So kid kakashi gets low diffed when he decides to chidori blizt neji , cant see neji's lightning fast counter then bam!! Low diff

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Scenario2 : Neji will barely flex his powers and kakashi gets sent flying by kaiten sooner or later and when that happens kakashi will die mid diff since neji kept up with KN0 Naruto in a battle of speed , while adult kalashi noted that naruto's base chakra was many times the size of his own meaning naruto's speed/power in KN0 would be wayy above that of kid kakashi since naturaly more enhanced chakra activity would equal more speed/power/stamina , lee himself needed hidden lotus to bypass neji's reaction , kakashi stands zero chance in this battle.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol. Didn't wood spikes breach the Almighty huuga rotation? And ppl think Raikiri can't?

 

[KidGamer65]

^ Wood spikes broke through because of there were too many coming too quickly for Rotation to block, Raikiri can't achieve anywhere near that same effect.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

^ Wood spikes broke through because of there were too many coming too quickly for Rotation to block, Raikiri can't achieve anywhere near that same effect.

That makes absolutely 0 sense seeing as Rotation is a continuous defense. If that's truly the case then raikiri isn't needed Just quickly thrown kunai. :|

 

[KidGamer65]

That makes absolutely 0 sense seeing as Rotation is a continuous defense. If that's truly the case then raikiri isn't needed Just quickly thrown kunai. :|

It actually makes perfect sense.

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"So many". Number is the reason he can't deflect them all, because he can't spin fast enough to do so, which would also mean that the spikes are fast. Can Kakashi throw as many Kunai as the Juubi can spit out spikes? At the same speed? No and no, so he can't counter Rotation like that.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

It actually makes perfect sense.

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"So many". Number is the reason he can't deflect them all, because he can't spin fast enough to do so, which would also mean that the spikes are fast. Can Kakashi throw as many Kunai as the Juubi can spit out spikes? At the same speed? No and no, so he can't counter Rotation like that.

It goes against rotation's dynamics/physics. He's not countering each spike individually. the chakra itself Is acting on them as a whole. Even when his rotation speed is slow(as shown vs Kidomaru) as long as he's emitting chakra it can still be deflected.

Kakashi doesn't have to throw out that many If what you're saying is correct. He'd only have to throw enough for it to become"too many" it's not like neji was the only one on the reciving end of that attack nor was it pinpointed to him.

Based on the scan itself it would be 5. Since that's how many contact marks were shown on his sphere for him to complain About it being "too many". then you'd scale it back down to part 1 neji's ability.

 

[KidGamer65]

It goes against rotation's dynamics/physics. He's not countering each spike individually. the chakra itself Is acting on them as a whole. Even when his rotation speed is slow(as shown vs Kidomaru) as long as he's emitting chakra it can still be deflected.

Yeah, but it's not hitting every spike that's being fired at once, because every spike that's being fired doesn't hit it's target at the same time. It's a continuous rain of spikes, and Neji's rotation can keep up with the speed or the numbers.

If he's not producing enough force, then it won't be able to deflect it. He was able to divert the trajectory of Kidomaru's attacks because that's all that was necessary. Not proof that emitting chakra alone can deflect all those spikes...if it could, Neji wouldn't be dead right now.

Kakashi doesn't have to throw out that many If what you're saying is correct. He'd only have to throw enough for it to become"too many" it's not like neji was the only one on the reciving end of that attack nor was it pinpointed to him.

Based on the scan itself it would be 5. Since that's how many contact marks were shown on his sphere for him to complain About it being "too many". then you'd scale it back down to part 1 neji's ability.

5 is what you saw him deflect at that instant, there's everything before, and everything in the two panels afterwards. Not to mention that doesn't account for the speed of the spikes.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Yeah, but it's not hitting every spike that's being fired at once, because every spike that's being fired doesn't hit it's target at the same time. It's a continuous rain of spikes, and Neji's rotation can keep up with the speed or the numbers.

it's a continuous stream of chakra as I already said. At the core of the technique it's centrifugal force.

If he's not producing enough force, then it won't be able to deflect it.

but If that's the case then numbers should matter. Since they come with the same force.

He was able to divert the trajectory of Kidomaru's attacks because that's all that was necessary.

I'm not talking about Kidomaru's arrows. I'm talking about before he even pulled it out. When Kidomaru slowed down his rotation via spider webs then thrown spikes at him. Since he was still emitting chakra said spike still got deflected.

Not proof that emitting chakra alone can deflect all those spikes...if it could, Neji wouldn't be dead right now.

neji's death was thoughtless, and isn't a reflection of the possibilities in that situation.

5 is what you saw him deflect at that instant, there's everything before, and everything in the two panels afterwards.

There's no indication that the juubi sped up, or change'd the nature of it's attack. So everything beforehand is irrelevant to the point.

Not to mention that doesn't account for the speed of the spikes.

They couldn't be moving that fast since kakashi was able to cover for both himself and sakura. Same goes for hinata covering herself and Naruto (without rotation mind you)

 

[KidGamer65]

it's a continuous stream of chakra as I already said. At the core of the technique it's centrifugal force.

Yeah, we know that, and they achieve that by spinning. If something is repeatedly pouring down on them at a fast rate, they won't be able to rotate fast enough to block all of them. Rotation being kept up by the user spinning is pretty much the main reason why Neji couldn't block all those spikes.

Then there's the fact that rotation is kept up by the user's spinning, and the user can't spin indefinitely.

Don't know why we are even disputing this when it's in the manga. Lol

but If that's the case then numbers should matter. Since they come with the same force.

And they do, so what do you mean with this point?

I'm not talking about Kidomaru's arrows. I'm talking about before he even pulled it out. When Kidomaru slowed down his rotation via spider webs then thrown spikes at him. Since he was still emitting chakra said spike still got deflected.

Like I said above, because that alone had enough power to deflect something with that little force. He couldn't do the same against Kidomaru's arrow, he could only change the trajectory, because it was faster with more force behind.

neji's death was thoughtless, and isn't a reflection of the possibilities in that situation.

Yes, it is. No reason why it wouldn't.

There's no indication that the juubi sped up, or change'd the nature of it's attack. So everything beforehand is irrelevant to the point.

Doesn't change the fact that everything afterwards is relevant, which doesn't change my point.

They couldn't be moving that fast since kakashi was able to cover for both himself and sakura. Same goes for hinata covering herself and Naruto (without rotation mind you)[/QUOTE]

People being able to dodge them doesn't change the fact that they are fast. Hinata (Nor Neji) used rotation when it came to saving Naruto because of one reason, it was too fast. Definitely faster than Kid Kakashi can throw any Kunai, so you have no point here.

 

[Conspirator.]

I think Neji can win.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Raikiri is made of chakra, Wooden spikes are not. The best feat Neji's Rotation [in an incomplete form] has shown is knocking away Kyuubi chakra, so a small amount of lightening won't be an issue.