Hokage Kakashi vs Kages

[LuckyMan]

Location: VoTE
Distance: 5 Meters (they start on the lake)
Intel: Full for both sides.
Intent: To kill.


>Mei

>Hiruzen

>Jiraiya *starts in Base* (Not a kage but was originally voted to be 5th)

>Darui

>Tsunade

Who does he beat?

 

[Lariatoo]

If Darui did not gained any new techniques after the war, Kakashi can defeat him... High diff...

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Nome or them can react to a raikiri blitz from that range

Yeah... In all seriousness I agree with what EliteKakashi says about these type of threads. I guess he loses to everyone except Darui, maybe, if you just take away the sharingan

 

[KidGamer65]

Probably only Mei...dunno about Darui and Tsunade (she probably wins way more times than not)...definitely loses the rest.

 

[Xlad]

He only wins against Mei and Darui. Maybe Tsunade.

 

[EliteKakashi]

I don't get the point of "Hokage Kakashi" threads. His fighting style is going to be drastically different without the sharingan. You could develop several different ways he could engage in combat, but in the end the argument would be it's just "fanfiction".

 

[LuckyMan]

Nome or them can react to a raikiri blitz from that range

5 meters is standard for most fights so I didn't think it needed to be more than that. If you think it needs to be more for an actual fight then consider the distance 15 meters.

If Darui did not gained any new techniques after the war, Kakashi can defeat him... High diff...

Well I'm sure everyone has proved since all the current Kage were relatively young during the war but I guess in this case we can use their actual feats they've shown.

Probably only Mei...dunno about Darui and Tsunade (she probably wins way more times than not)...definitely loses the rest.

How does he survive acid mist? How does he dodge Laser Circus? Tsunade mid difficulties him in my opinion, so not going to go there.

I don't get the point of "Hokage Kakashi" threads. His fighting style is going to be drastically different without the sharingan. You could develop several different ways he could engage in combat, but in the end the argument would be it's just "fanfiction".

I was actually planning on giving him Futon feats of Danzo and Katon feats of Itachi since the DB did say he knew all of them. I think those are pretty good because its not way overpowered like Madaras Katons and Temaris Futon but its not weak either and can still be effective.

 

[KingHashirama]

- Jiraiya was never voted to be the 5th.

Loses to all..

Especially the sanin.. and in particular Tsunade.

 

[super yang]

they all beat him except Darui

 

[EliteKakashi]

- Jiraiya was never voted to be the 5th.

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[Beans2]

He loses to all of them.

 

[LuckyMan]

- Jiraiya was never voted to be the 5th.

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@EliteKakashi lol you posted before me.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Hokage Kakashi calls up Sasuke and they get a dose of Konoha justice

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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Lmfao. Hand out them L's


OT:He beats tsunade, darui, old Hiruzen, and maybe mei.

Only person he flat out looses to would be jman

 

[ATD]

mei is to slow and her attacks are dodged or blocked with doton, Kakashi wins high diff

Darui equals Kakashi in some areas, but Kakashi is able do clones and got 3 element types, in addition he is much more intelligent, kakashi wins high diff

Hiruzen is to old to keep up with Kakashis speed,reflexes,taijutsu and strength, he equals him in ninjutsu and knowledge, but Kakashi is the better battle tactician and i am sure Kakashi got more chakra than old hiruzen,so he also wins high diff.

Tsunade is a strong opponent due to katsuyu, but kakashi has his chances, i think it can go either way

j-man is just on another level, Kakashi loses med diff

 

[ATD]

I don't get the point of "Hokage Kakashi" threads. His fighting style is going to be drastically different without the sharingan. You could develop several different ways he could engage in combat, but in the end the argument would be it's just "fanfiction".

Hokage Kakashi differs not much from 3T Kakashi, he got both of his normal eyes, which gives him much more chakra and doesn't handicap him anymore.
he lost the ability to copy, to foresee an incoming attack,to see the color of chakra and to analyzes hand seals, but that doesn't matter really much because he knows a lot of jutsus, so he doesn't need to copy anymore, he got more chakra to do more clones, so he is able to balance the lost of the 3T prediction a bit, he still got very good senses and he has his non-ken to smell chakra, sensing air vibrations and so on...
The point of Hokage Kakashi threads are to find a new suitable fighting style for Kakashi which is compatible with his shown feats.
Kakashi is a master of Ninjutsu and now without the sharingan he can spam many dangerous jutsus and last longer in battle.
People don't want to see the advantages Kakashi has got now, they can't let go the sharingan, because its so damn hyped.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Hokage Kakashi differs not much from 3T Kakashi, he got both of his normal eyes, which gives him much more chakra and doesn't handicap him anymore.
he lost the ability to copy, to foresee an incoming attack,to see the color of chakra and to analyzes hand seals, but that doesn't matter really much because he knows a lot of jutsus, so he doesn't need to copy anymore, he got more chakra to do more clones, so he is able to balance the lost of the 3T prediction a bit, he still got very good senses and he has his non-ken to smell chakra, sensing air vibrations and so on...
The point of Hokage Kakashi threads are to find a new suitable fighting style for Kakashi which is compatible with his shown feats.
Kakashi is a master of Ninjutsu and now without the sharingan he can spam many dangerous jutsus and last longer in battle.
People don't want to see the advantages Kakashi has got now, they can't let go the sharingan, because its so damn hyped.

It has nothing to do with Kakashi not having abilities outside of the sharingan. I can create a hundred different ways for him to fight without it. It's just that there's no feats of him fighting without it, and anything you or I or anyone else claims he does in a fight without it has nothing to back it up, and holds little water in a debate unless the person or people you're debating with give you the freedom to do that, which most vs threads won't.

 

[LuckyMan]

It has nothing to do with Kakashi not having abilities outside of the sharingan. I can create a hundred different ways for him to fight without it. It's just that there's no feats of him fighting without it, and anything you or I or anyone else claims he does in a fight without it has nothing to back it up, and holds little water in a debate unless the person or people you're debating with give you the freedom to do that, which most vs threads won't.

If we go strictly by feats though with what hes already shown, but just take away the sharingan, he is the weakest Kage besides the absolutely featless ones, but we're not counting them.

 

[EliteKakashi]

If we go strictly by feats though with what hes already shown, but just take away the sharingan, he is the weakest Kage besides the absolutely featless ones, but we're not counting them.

Yes. The only real competition he has here, IMO, in terms of being the weakest going off feats is Darui, and even then Kakashi still probably loses that.

 

[ATD]

It has nothing to do with Kakashi not having abilities outside of the sharingan. I can create a hundred different ways for him to fight without it. It's just that there's no feats of him fighting without it, and anything you or I or anyone else claims he does in a fight without it has nothing to back it up, and holds little water in a debate unless the person or people you're debating with give you the freedom to do that, which most vs threads won't.

The most manga scans show Kakashi fighting with his 3T i know, but that doesn't mean he can't use his jutsus anymore without the sharingan. Okay some debaters are very strict, than its not possible backing Kakashi up with manga scans, but most of the people know that Hokage Kakashi can use all of his jutsus still as fine as without the sharingan, except the proper use of raikiri.
There are still manga scans where Kakashi shows what he have got, without the sharingan or the sharingan covered.

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(to show that he has excellent senses like listening to air vibrations , or smelling)

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( proves that he can aim sth small like a hand while falling perfectly with a kunai, while saving sakura and himself)

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(to prove that his reflexes are still good in base)

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(taijutsu in base is fine)

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(speed in base is still fine, kept up with obito and managed to get in front of an ash bone, while the gravity was stronger)

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( he is able to use the rasengan in base without the sharingan, is a good alternative to raikiri)

I know there are not many manga scans of him where he uses techniques or moves without the sharingan, but its safe to say that he can use all other raikiri variants or his other shown ninjutsus without the sharingan, i doubt the debaters will be this strict.