[VS] Orochimaru vs. Kisame

[Ghost in the Shell]

lol It's Cute you know nothing about Oru to say anything you just stated.

Quit talking shit and counter, then...

 

[makosheva7]

Kisame's Suiton beats out anything in Orochimaru's Arsenal

We all know Orochimaru has to use Oral Rebirth in this fight but from what Zetsu said it takes a lot of Chakra and what does Samehada do it absorbs Chakra so I doubt Orochimaru is gonna be able to use it when Samehada sucks away all his Chakra or he uses it once and then he becomes depleted in Chakra.

Manda?

 

[Draegod]

Quit talking shit and counter, then...

What is there to counter when I already Posted Multiple Ways an Armless Oru wins. Pay attention My guy! Plus I don't like to waste time when it isn't worth investing it into something "worth it." (No offense, but if you take offense.. #FuqIt!)

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

What is there to counter when I already Posted Multiple Ways an Armless Oru wins. Pay attention My guy! Plus I don't like to waste time when it isn't worth investing it into something "worth it." (No offense, but if you take offense.. #FuqIt!)

Sorry, but I haven't seen any of these posts.

 

[Draegod]

Sorry, but I haven't seen any of these posts.

Nothing to discuss then my guy, Keep it moving.

 

[super yang]

Kisame outlasts Orochimaru

- Kisame should start the match off by using Suiton: Daibakusui Shōha to gain the geographical advantage
oro can summon rashomon & merge w/ nature, hide like a mole
- Multiple Suikōdan, Five Feeding Sharks, and shark summons counter Orochimaru's snakes
water jutsu are countered by wind jutsu, shunshin & shin Kusanagi. kisame has only ever summoned 2 sharks, btw
- I don't know if Orochimaru can use the 8 Branches underwater, but it gets ravaged by Daikōdan in any case
oh, he can use an orthodox sui'ton ij spite of the dome maintenance? then nah, oro tanks that featless crap
- Kusanagi blade here is a sieve since the Samehada will continuously heal Kisame
except kusanagi has the power to obliterate him by feats, but U can wank no-limits-fal if U wish

- Orochimaru can't really put Kisame down, especially when he's fused with the Samehada, but Kisame can continually drain Oro's reserves.

you've got it backwards & he has to subdue his victim to suck chakra when he is already fused, there is a clear trade off there.

and lol at manda taking damage from orthodox ninjutsu.
...but 1,000 shark feast is water shape manipulation anyway, not real sharks

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Manda alone could solo tbh. You add that with the fact all of Kisame attacks are simply Blunt force, Oru laughs at all of the attempts. Snake poison makes his head a smooth target, Hyrda will literally overpower every single thing he has. Multiple Giant snakes overwhelm Kisame, and add to the fact most if not all Snakes can swim means GG.

And Keep in mind I'm using Oru with no arms... #Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnn #ChrisTuckerVoice #Friday

Lmaoooo, come back to planet earth my boy. What Kisame ever do to you?

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Nothing to discuss then my guy, Keep it moving.

...You haven't given me any reason to believe Orochimaru wins, but ok. Nothing to discuss, Kisame wins.

 

[Draegod]

Lmaoooo, come back to planet earth my boy. What Kisame ever do to you?

lmao Whats good Bro!?! Just got out the shower and saw this thread, you know I had to say something before you and your Kisame Crew show up talking shit and I wont be able to participate later. haha

I fuqs With Kisame, Just don't think he beats some of the ninjas you all thinks he beats, while I believe he beats some of the ninjas y'all think he cant beat.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

you've got it backwards & he has to subdue his victim to suck chakra when he is already fused, there is a clear trade off there.

and lol at manda taking damage from orthodox ninjutsu.
...but 1,000 shark feast is water shape manipulation anyway, not real sharks

- Hiding Like a Mole isn't saving him here when Kisame created a lake of water, and Orochimaru needs to be in contact with the ground to summon Rashōmon. Keep in mind that Kisame can form the giant water dome pretty quickly
- So Kisame only showing himself summoning 2 sharks in the manga means that he can't summon more than that in battle. Gotcha.
- Orochimaru's fuuton isn't strong enough, it'd get overwhelmed by the scale of Kisame's techniques
- What featless crap? Orochimaru simply can't counter Daikōdan. The more chakra it absorbs, the stronger it grows, and it'll eventually overpower the Hydra
- As long as there is chakra to absorb, the Samehada will keep absorbing it, considering it was sucking the Hachibi dry of chakra. I don't think the no limits fallacy applies here.
- Ok, then, Daikōdan shits on Manda, and so does Kisame, who is very fast underwater and drains chakra with every hit

 

[Forbidden Technique]

lmao Whats good Bro!?! Just got out the shower and saw this thread, you know I had to say something before you and your Kisame Crew show up talking shit and I wont be able to participate later. haha

I fuqs With Kisame, Just don't think he beats some of the ninjas you all thinks he beats, while I believe he beats some of the ninjas y'all think he cant beat.

Chillen dawg, at the gym walking on the tredmil haha... Gonna get this workout started. Lol, c'mon it's been a minute since the crew came in rolling deep in Kisames threads. Been a cool minute actually.

But I'm saying though, I don't think I've ever seen you state Kisame wins a matchup. Manda soloing the guy hyped up to be paralleled with perfect Jins? C'mon bro lol, Kisame feasts on that thing.

 

[super yang]

- Hiding Like a Mole isn't saving him here when Kisame created a lake of water, and Orochimaru needs to be in contact with the ground to summon Rashōmon. Keep in mind that Kisame can form the giant water dome pretty quickly
- So Kisame only showing himself summoning 2 sharks in the manga means that he can't summon more than that in battle. Gotcha.
- Orochimaru's fuuton isn't strong enough, it'd get overwhelmed by the scale of Kisame's techniques
- What featless crap? Orochimaru simply can't counter Daikōdan. The more chakra it absorbs, the stronger it grows, and it'll eventually overpower the Hydra
- As long as there is chakra to absorb, the Samehada will keep absorbing it, considering it was sucking the Hachibi dry of chakra. I don't think the no limits fallacy applies here.
- Ok, then, Daikōdan shits on Manda, and so does Kisame, who is very fast underwater and drains chakra with every hit

- U don't need to be in contact w/ the ground to summon
-no hiding loke a mole isn't invalid just because you say so
-yep, just because jiraiya, Tsunade & oro did something, doesn't mean kakshi, kisame, temari can do it
- no, fuu'ton daitoppa is much bigger & stronger than kisames offensive sui'ton w/ the exception of the daikodan from the ocean.
- yes, it is featless & no Kisame isn't going to ''trap'' oro in a ''daikodan-dome''. and daikodan is not animate, its linear, so it isn't going to ''overpower'' anything
-the no limits fallacy was about ''healing'' from Shin Kusanagi
- oro doesn't have a chakra cloak to freely absorb, nor does he use chakra flow.

kisame will have to grab him(impossible) then stab him w/ his fins, just like it happened in canon.
in that case he'd just get poisoned

-manda sheds his skin, goes underground or just tailwhips it

 

[Zexion~]

Summons are so overrated U_U

Kisame wins

 

[Draegod]

Chillen dawg, at the gym walking on the tredmil haha... Gonna get this workout started. Lol, c'mon it's been a minute since the crew came in rolling deep in Kisames threads. Been a cool minute actually.

But I'm saying though, I don't think I've ever seen you state Kisame wins a matchup. Manda soloing the guy hyped up to be paralleled with perfect Jins? C'mon bro lol, Kisame feasts on that thing.

SHid I remember When I was in the Gym hard after Hoopin with my bro, But some changes in life happened that mabe me postpone my work out schedule. I need to make more time, but I gotta take care of a few things in the meanwhile. Plus they ass keep charging me every month even though I haven't been in 3 months. (some Hoes I know. haha)

It's been an Even bigger minute The OG Tripple OG Oru fans (Me and my Boi BlazeKev90) came in the Vs Section To Show DaFuq out as well! haha

Don't underestimate Manda bruh, The Strength and speed it possess is simply on a Bijuu level. And I was supporting Kisame A long time ago and even represented with him in multiple tourneys. I think He can beat Itachi TBH. It's just when It comes to Some of the Kages he gets matched up with **Cough cough** Aye's **Cough cough** I don't see him winning more times then not.

Plus Just because his Chakra (along with a plethora of other ninjas) are comparable to a Bijuu doesn't mean they can take on a Bijuu. lol Manda on the Other hand Can stand his own to most of them besides 8 and 9 tails and win or high diff lose.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

- U don't need to be in contact w/ the ground to summon
-no hiding loke a mole isn't invalid just because you say so
-yep, just because jiraiya, Tsunade & oro did something, doesn't mean kakshi, kisame, temari can do it
- no, fuu'ton daitoppa is much bigger & stronger than kisames offensive sui'ton w/ the exception of the daikodan from the ocean.
- yes, it is featless & no Kisame isn't going to ''trap'' oro in a ''daikodan-dome''. and daikodan is not animate, its linear, so it isn't going to ''overpower'' anything
-the no limits fallacy was about ''healing'' from Shin Kusanagi
- oro doesn't have a chakra cloak to freely absorb, nor does he use chakra flow.

kisame will have to grab him(impossible) then stab him w/ his fins, just like it happened in canon.
in that case he'd just get poisoned

-manda sheds his skin, goes underground or just tailwhips it

- To summon the Rashōmon gates? Uh... Yeah, you do.
- I specifically said why Hiding Like a Mole isn't a factor in this match. Go back read what I said, or post a legitimate counter.
- ...What? I have no clue what you're saying, nor how that applies here. You mean to tell me that Kisame, with his chakra level, is incapable of summoning more then a couple of sharks simply because he's never shown it? He can create 1,000 sharks from water and spit out lakes within seconds, but he can't summon more than two sharks? Sure, ok.
- No, it really isn't. Try again.
- Kisame explained what it does and how it works when he used it. It just so happened that Hirudora is not a chakra based attack. If it was, it would have gotten absorbed, and the shark would have grown larger in size.
- Like I said before, the giant Water Dome forms itself very quickly, so it's probable that he'll end up getting caught inside
- I don't see how Kisame won't be able to heal himself from that, considering he got his chest busted open by a Lariat and subsequently healed the wound using the Samehada.
- So you're saying Orochimaru just doesn't use chakra, then? C'mon dude, at least try.
- Those weren't fins, those were bones from his body. And no, he doesn't have to do that to absorb Orochimaru's chakra
- Shedding his skin won't save him from anything, not when Daikōdan grows bigger as it absorbs chakra. So it won't get taken out by a tail whip, lol

Edit: Listen, you need to understand that there's more than just feats when talking about a character's abilites. Just because a character has never shown something that's within his/her ability to do, doesn't mean that he/she cannot do it. Same thing applies for my point about Daikōdan.

For example, I don't need feats to prove that Gengetsu Hōzuki can use all of the Hōzuki clans secret techniques, including Water Release: Demon Fish, even though he's never showed them. I don't need feats to prove that the Third Raikage can use Raiton: Kuropansa, even though he never showed it. I don't need feats to prove that Kisame can summon as many sharks as he wants to the battlefield.

 

[super yang]

- To summon the Rashōmon gates? Uh... Yeah, you do.
- I specifically said why Hiding Like a Mole isn't a factor in this match. Go back read what I said, or post a legitimate counter.
- ...What? I have no clue what you're saying, nor how that applies here. You mean to tell me that Kisame, with his chakra level, is incapable of summoning more then a couple of sharks simply because he's never shown it? He can create 1,000 sharks from water and spit out lakes within seconds, but he can't summon more than two sharks? Sure, ok.
- No, it really isn't. Try again.
- Kisame explained what it does and how it works when he used it. It just so happened that Hirudora is not a chakra based attack. If it was, it would have gotten absorbed, and the shark would have grown larger in size.
- Like I said before, the giant Water Dome forms itself very quickly, so it's probably that he'll end up getting caught inside
- I don't see how Kisame won't be able to heal himself from that, considering he got his chest busted open by a Lariat and subsequently healed the wound using the Samehada.
- So you're saying Orochimaru just doesn't use chakra, then? C'mon dude, at least try.
- Those weren't fins, those were bones from his body. And no, he doesn't have to do that to absorb Orochimaru's chakra
- Shedding his skin won't save him from anything, not when Daikōdan grows bigger as it absorbs chakra. So it won't get taken out by a tail whip, lol

-no, U don't
- no, U just said it was invalid & tried to make a nonsensical quantification 4 it
- - that's right. U can start by proving more than 2 even exist in the 'verse, let alone on his contract, Mr. kishimoto
- yeah, no I'm sure whatever ''suikodan'' even is, its inferior to daitoppa, as is shark bullet
- and oro ''explained'' that he is immortal so...
- no, U implied hed then turn the dome into daikodan w/o any recourse
- well shin kusanagi was rag-dolling KN4 Naruto & busting thru river valleys & bridge ravines. it multiplies & levitates too
- I never implied anything of the sort. if U didn't understand how the feats happened I can go over it again.
- same difference. of course he does, Mr. kishimoto. or don't U comprehend your own story~
- animals use nature energy, not chakra & it can't absorb what it cant ''chomp'' according to kisame.
so then, it is readily evadable & vulnerable to any type of counter attack, even 1 that is chakra-based~
...or do U have daikodan feats that show otherwise?~~

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

-no, U don't
- no, U just said it was invalid & tried to make a nonsensical quantification 4 it
- - that's right. U can start by proving more than 2 even exist in the 'verse, let alone on his contract, Mr. kishimoto
- yeah, no I'm sure whatever ''suikodan'' even is, its inferior to daitoppa, as is shark bullet
- and oro ''explained'' that he is immortal so...
- no, U implied hed then turn the dome into daikodan w/o any recourse
- well shin kusanagi was rag-dolling KN4 Naruto & busting thru river valleys & bridge ravines. it multiplies & levitates too
- I never implied anything of the sort. if U didn't understand how the feats happened I can go over it again.
- same difference. of course he does, Mr. kishimoto. or don't U comprehend your own story~
- animals use nature energy, not chakra & it can't absorb what it cant ''chomp'' according to kisame.
so then it is readily evadable & vulnerable to any type of counter attack, even 1 that is chakra-based~

Haha, ok dude, whatever.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

SHid I remember When I was in the Gym hard after Hoopin with my bro, But some changes in life happened that mabe me postpone my work out schedule. I need to make more time, but I gotta take care of a few things in the meanwhile. Plus they ass keep charging me every month even though I haven't been in 3 months. (some Hoes I know. haha)

It's been an Even bigger minute The OG Tripple OG Oru fans (Me and my Boi BlazeKev90) came in the Vs Section To Show DaFuq out as well! haha

Don't underestimate Manda bruh, The Strength and speed it possess is simply on a Bijuu level. And I was supporting Kisame A long time ago and even represented with him in multiple tourneys. I think He can beat Itachi TBH. It's just when It comes to Some of the Kages he gets matched up with **Cough cough** Aye's **Cough cough** I don't see him winning more times then not.

Plus Just because his Chakra (along with a plethora of other ninjas) are comparable to a Bijuu doesn't mean they can take on a Bijuu. lol Manda on the Other hand Can stand his own to most of them besides 8 and 9 tails and win or high diff lose.

Lol, that's what most gyms do though. If you're a member, you gotta pay the monthly payment every month regardless if you go or not. But yeah, feel you. It's kind off hard balancing between school, work, and gym... but I try to hit up the gym at least 4-5 days a week to get these gains lol.

I personally don't see Manda being on any Biju's level, considering TBB's and all their exclusive special abilities such as the Ichibis sand body that can seal Manda on contact or Saikens acidic body that would melt away Manda on contact. Two different pedestals, imo. In Kisames case, it isn't just his chakra that was said to be on par with Biju's. He was hyped up to

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effectively. He solo'd the 4 tails Jin with seemingly not too much effort, and went head to head with Killer Bee so the hype is justified.

Against Manda... well let's just assume the worst case scenario here. Snakes swallow their prey whole, so let's assume Manda mistakenly swallows Kisame. You realize Kisame is a ****in' savage, right? Just like Gin/Kin did to the Kyubi, Kisame would feast on Mandas insides, and absorb all it's chakra. That or he simply forcibly

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himself out with Bakusui Shōha. Hydras a whole nother *****, but it's slow and drowns in the WD, gets gradually eaten by a bunch of shark summons, and/or Kisame depletes his chakra completely.

 

[Xlad]

Kisame shits.

 

[Praydara]

Orochimaru, very high-diff. This is honestly a great match, but I think Kisame just doesn't have the tools to finish Orochimaru for good. The main thing Oro has to worry about is Samehada's chakra absorption and, of course, the water dome. I say the water dome of course because Orochimaru will have difficulty countering it, and without his chakra Orochimaru would get stomped. I say extremely high-diff because it honestly seems like an equal matchup, here, with Orochimaru winning just a little more often than Kisame.