[VS] Hashirama vs Team Overrated

[maniaoqan]

Polem takes care of Itachi. Shinsuusenju busts Minato. Hashirama takes this high diff.

 

[GiantShuriken]

Minato negs with ftg. Itachi Negs with tsukiyomi

 

[Great Master Minato]

Just Curious...Can Cloak Itachi Armor Kurama Avatar With Susanoo?

 

[Demonic.]

Ignore the fools like EJ Black that thinks Kabuto, EMS Sasuke and Edo Hiruzen solo Hashirama

OT - The Buddha Solos. No prepped marking outside of the battle means Minato can't port it away. Any TBB is caught, exactly how Wood Human caught a TBB.

Minato's 5 minutes of BM run out and it's GG. Hashirama high diff.

 

[Amaterasu]

Shinsuusenju negs.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Hashirama wins mid diff at best

 

[TheSages456]

amaterasu would not affect hashirama in the slightest. he could just grow wood from the affected part of his body to remove it. similar to this:

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its not like amaterasu would even hit him in the first place.

minato could take itachi inside kuramas body so he doesnt die instantly, but he wont be doing anything while he is in there.


the flower world will destroy any of minatos kunais, and the mokuryu will take out 50% kurama like it did in canon. the flower world puts minato and itachi to sleep and hashirama kills them at his leisure.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Just Curious...Can Cloak Itachi Armor Kurama Avatar With Susanoo?

No
Its not Canon and even though I made it Healthy Itachi he cannot use an EMS feat

 

[Brother Numpsay]

the flower world will destroy any of minatos kunais, and the mokuryu will take out 50% kurama like it did in canon. the flower world puts minato and itachi to sleep and hashirama kills them at his leisure.

amaterasu should be least of his worries and not necessary to waste chakra doing. A FTG port totsuka blade or tsukuyomi is much more useful to end the fight.

FTW is not covering the whole battlefield when the latter canonically was able to space the kunais to put Juubi in a barrier. The barriers length is much bigger then SS size field, which extends further then FTW.

 

[maniaoqan]

Just Curious...Can Cloak Itachi Armor Kurama Avatar With Susanoo?

Itachi can't do something like that. He doesn't even have legged Susanoo. Hashirama managed to tear PS out of Kurama, even if by some longshot he manages it wouldn't make any difference.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Itachi can't do something like that. He doesn't even have legged Susanoo. Hashirama managed to tear PS out of Kurama, even if by some longshot he manages it wouldn't make any difference.

Yep It Seems He Can't But If He Could...Teleporting Armored Kurama Avatar > Armored Kyuubi.

 

[TheSages456]

amaterasu should be least of his worries and not necessary to waste chakra doing. A FTG port totsuka blade or tsukuyomi is much more useful to end the fight.

doesnt make a shred of sense. you are assuming that minato will have a kunai near hashirama and you also assume that itachi is fast enough to stab hashirama before he can react.

FTW is not covering the whole battlefield when the latter canonically was able to space the kunais to put Juubi in a barrier. The barriers length is much bigger then SS size field, which extends further then FTW.

the flower world covers much more area than the juubi who is only the same size of PS. based on how big the juubi was compared to the barrier, shinsuusenju is bigger than the barrier.

you cannot verify the amount of time it took for minato to do what he did, so his off panel feats are irrelevant. he is not running out of the flower world.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

doesnt make a shred of sense. you are assuming that minato will have a kunai near hashirama and you also assume that itachi is fast enough to stab hashirama before he can react.

Na, I'm assuming a much faster character with Kurama chakra boost his body flicker, is going to tag Hashirama which makes the attack speed being ported faster.

the flower world covers much more area than the juubi who is only the same size of PS. based on how big the juubi was compared to the barrier, shinsuusenju is bigger than the barrier.

you cannot verify the amount of time it took for minato to do what he did, so his off panel feats are irrelevant. he is not running out of the flower world.

Um no it doesn't. Hashirama Mokuton field was canonically wipe away from a single Buijuudama blast field. Juubi size standing up is on par with SS and its Juubitails rival its backpack size. Plus PS and SS does rival each other size (excluding the backpack).

@Bold dont need to argue this since OP stated Kunais are prepped in the battlefield already.

 

[TRE MERCER]

This is basically Minato vs Hashirama. Replace Itachi with a fly and the battle tides will still be same as if Itachi never left.

Hashirama wins. ​

 

[TheSages456]

Na, I'm assuming a much faster character with Kurama chakra boost his body flicker, is going to tag Hashirama which makes the attack speed being ported faster.

by what feats can minato or itachi tag hashirama?

Um no it doesn't. Hashirama Mokuton field was canonically wipe away from a single Buijuudama blast field. Juubi size standing up is on par with SS and its Juubitails rival its backpack size. Plus PS and SS does rival each other size (excluding the backpack).

the black circle is where the juubi was. the red circle is where PS is.

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most of that space was taken up by its tails.

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the juubi being as big as shinsuusenju is a laughable notion. not taking its tails into account, it is as big as PS/mokujin. its bigger than the mentioned two only when its tails are taken into account, but its nowhere near the size of shinsuusenju.

@Bold dont need to argue this since OP stated Kunais are prepped in the battlefield already.

this doesnt change the fact that minato cannot get out of the flower world.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

by what feats can minato or itachi tag hashirama?

Feats? I not going read the manga for you. Minato is known from being the fastest Shinobi period. He has been compared to Naruto KCM from Yamato and Ay admitting inferiority to his speed. Theres nothing you can say otherwise to say he doesn't have the feats to tag Hashirama.

When did I ever mention Itachi tagging Hashirama? He doesn't have no form of fuinjutsu to begin with.

the black circle is where the juubi was. the red circle is where PS is.

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most of that space was taken up by its tails.

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Ok?

the juubi being as big as shinsuusenju is a laughable notion. not taking its tails into account, it is as big as PS/mokujin. its bigger than the mentioned two only when its tails are taken into account, but its nowhere near the size of shinsuusenju.

Um good that you have mention that its as big as PS/Mokujin since the Mokuton Edo Hashirama used is a SM boost version of itself.

this doesnt change the fact that minato cannot get out of the flower world.

- Um yes it does since the tags out reaches the extensions FTW locations.
- Not only that but a single leap is able to escape the FTW.
- And a single TBB clearing it up.

Just more overrating of the tech when Madara canonically couldn't be beaten by it, who is slower then Minato himself. Even a mindless Kurama counter it, who Minato has access of its power focused.

 

[Unorthodox]

Hashirama near neg diff

 

[TheSages456]

Feats? I not going read the manga for you. Minato is known from being the fastest Shinobi period. He has been compared to Naruto KCM from Yamato and Ay admitting inferiority to his speed. Theres nothing you can say otherwise to say he doesn't have the feats to tag Hashirama.

madara has the same choku tomoe as sasuke who traced obitos movements in his ten tails jinchuriki form. the same obito took minatos arm off before he could react. hashiramas reactions and combat speed are equal to madaras.

Um good that you have mention that its as big as PS/Mokujin since the Mokuton Edo Hashirama used is a SM boost version of itself.

the mokujin fits on the head of shinsuusenju, so by admitting that the juubi is as big as the mokujin, you are agreeing that it isnt close to the size of shinsuusenju.

- Um yes it does since the tags out reaches the extensions FTW locations.
- Not only that but a single leap is able to escape the FTW.
- And a single TBB clearing it up.

the basis of your statement was the juubi being as large as shinsuusenju which i already refuted, so no, minato cannot escape the flower world.

Just more overrating of the tech when Madara canonically couldn't be beaten by it, who is slower then Minato himself. Even a mindless Kurama counter it, who Minato has access of its power focused.

madara is stronger than minato so your comparison is awfully fallacious.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

madara has the same choku tomoe as sasuke who traced obitos movements in his ten tails jinchuriki form. the same obito took minatos arm off before he could react. hashiramas reactions and combat speed are equal to madaras.

Sasuke and Naruto were able to progressively traced obitos movements. They were blitz the first time. So I agree with the notion that SM Hashirama should be able to progressively react to Minato's blitz.

The match is Hashirama not starting in SM, which is a perfect position to blitz tag Base mode

the mokujin fits on the head of shinsuusenju, so by admitting that the juubi is as big as the mokujin, you are agreeing that it isnt close to the size of shinsuusenju.

Or you can re read what I said as I clearly mention the one Edo Hashirama used of Mokujin isn't the same size as the one at VOTE.

the basis of your statement was the juubi being as large as shinsuusenju which i already refuted, so no, minato cannot escape the flower world.

Address above.

madara is stronger than minato so your comparison is awfully fallacious.

Perfect Jin Minato is not a horrible comparison especially when without Kurama, Minato is still faster then Madara.

 

[TheSages456]

Sasuke and Naruto were able to progressively traced obitos movements. They were blitz the first time. So I agree with the notion that SM Hashirama should be able to progressively react to Minato's blitz.

nope. hashiramas reaction speed are already at the level where he can react to minato. he doesnt need to get used to minatos movements like naruto and sasuke needed to get used to obito.

The match is Hashirama not starting in SM, which is a perfect position to blitz tag Base mode

minato tries to blitz hashirama and he dodges. his reactions in base form are equal to madara who has the same choku tomoe as sasuke who could trace ten tails obito.

Or you can re read what I said as I clearly mention the one Edo Hashirama used of Mokujin isn't the same size as the one at VOTE.

the mokujin was the same size as from VOTE. there isnt any reason to believe otherwise.

Address above.

you dont have any proof that hashiramas mokujin from the war is larger than the mokujin from VOTE, so you do not have an argument.

Perfect Jin Minato is not a horrible comparison especially when without Kurama, Minato is still faster then Madara.

minato being faster than madara with hiraishin does not mean anything. he still cannot escape the flower world.