How it should have went: Rinnesharingan Madara vs Rikudou Duo

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Actually I change my mind Madara wins this.

-Madara makes Chibaku Tensei and to compensate he makes them bigger than before
-While the Chibaku Tensei is happening Madara makes Mokuton Clones to hold off the Kyuubi Susano'o Fusion long enough so he can charge up his TBB
-After the TBB are finished charging up, Madara uses Red Yang Barrier and Pulls the Two inside it with BT and then he Nukes them which would eradicate both the Susano'o and Kyuubi Avatar
-Naruto could potentially survive if he wraps himself in a Truth Seeking Ball Shield but Sasuke would be gone and without him Naruto can't take on Madara

Naruto also puts Sasuke in a gudou dama shield. Sasuke Amenotejikara's outside the barrier. Mokuton Clones couln't hold off Kyuubi Susanoo.

Is it strange how all JJ Madara debates end up using JJ Obito's feats?

 

[Holy God]

Madara wins here with low-mid difficulty. Naruto doesn't have flight here, nor his three-headed Kurama avatar, and Sasuke doesn't have any Rinnegan feats besides Amenotejikara. Their only way of fighting back would be to combine their tailed beast mode and Perfect Susano'o, in which case Madara covers Sage Art: Wood Style: True Several Thousand Hands with Susano'o, which over-powers the duo.

 

[Kaguya Rabbit Goddess]

Madara with rinne sharingan wins

 

[Omar19992010]

Naruto also puts Sasuke in a gudou dama shield. Sasuke Amenotejikara's outside the barrier. Mokuton Clones couln't hold off Kyuubi Susanoo.

Is it strange how all JJ Madara debates end up using JJ Obito's feats?

Mokuton Clones that could use all the Abilities as the Original.

How is it strange? Obito was able to pull of those feats thanks to him being the Juubi Jinchhuriki and Madara is also the Juubi Jinchuuriki.

 

[wael reda]

Madara wins with no more than mid diff

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Rikkudo duo wins this still. Individually, they loose, but together, they win. Your set-up for them being inexperienced is irrelevant. They had the same inexperience against Kaguya, and they adapted. They aren't having as much trouble against Madara as Kaguya, and Naruto, at least, was holding his own temporarily. Naruto and Sasuke win by default.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Mokuton Clones that could use all the Abilities as the Original.

How is it strange? Obito was able to pull of those feats thanks to him being the Juubi Jinchhuriki and Madara is also the Juubi Jinchuuriki.

But the wood clones are weaker than the original, and haven't been shown using Rinnegan powers before, and without rinnegan powers Naruto and Sasuke were ragdolling Madara.

And it is strange, because JJ Madara's entire list of abilitys seems to be comprised of something he did before becoming Juubi Jin, Or something Obito did as juubi jin. It's just slightly pathetic that JJ Madara got such treatment. Ragdolled by everyone he fought, one chapter of awesome them Black Zetsu.

 

[Beans2]

Juubi encased in Double Rinnegan Madara's Iso Susanoo, spamming PS enhanced juubidamas...massive CTs can be used as diversions...I think Madara wins med diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Actually I change my mind Madara wins this.

-Madara makes Chibaku Tensei and to compensate he makes them bigger than before

And then Naruto nukes them with his Avatar instead of using BDFRS.

-While the Chibaku Tensei is happening Madara makes Mokuton Clones to hold off the Kyuubi Susano'o Fusion long enough so he can charge up his TBB

Except Madara's PS isn't anywhere near the level of a fusion between Naruto and Sasuke's Avatars, so we can forget about his Mokuton clones holding them off, especially since his Susanoo were weaker than they normally were when he used them with Mokuton Clones as an Edo Tensei.

-After the TBB are finished charging up, Madara uses Red Yang Barrier and Pulls the Two inside it with BT and then he Nukes them which would eradicate both the Susano'o and Kyuubi Avatar

Then Sasuke warps out of the barrier.

-Naruto could potentially survive if he wraps himself in a Truth Seeking Ball Shield but Sasuke would be gone and without him Naruto can't take on Madara

Or he wraps them both in Gudo Dama.

 

[Omar19992010]

And then Naruto nukes them with his Avatar instead of using BDFRS.


Except Madara's PS isn't anywhere near the level of a fusion between Naruto and Sasuke's Avatars, so we can forget about his Mokuton clones holding them off, especially since his Susanoo were weaker than they normally were when he used them with Mokuton Clones as an Edo Tensei.

Then Sasuke warps out of the barrier.


Or he wraps them both in Gudo Dama.

Using the Kurama Avatar to nuke the Chibaku Tensei is a Bad Idea when Madara can pong that right back at him through the Usage of Moktuon.

Mokuton Clones that can theoretically use PS would be able to hold them off Long enough for Madara to form his Juubi TBB.

Sasuke warping Both the Perfect Susano'o and Kyuubi Avatar is a feat from the VOTE fight.

Limbo would be knocking on that Gudodama sheild.

 

[KidGamer65]

Using the Kurama Avatar to nuke the Chibaku Tensei is a Bad Idea when Madara can pong that right back at him through the Usage of Moktuon.

When Madara has a Mokuton feat good enough to let him redirect RSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama, then we can talk. When Madara can form Mokuton in mid air, to catch a Bijuu Dama aimed at his Chibaku Tensei...then we can talk.

Mokuton Clones that can theoretically use PS would be able to hold them off Long enough for Madara to form his Juubi TBB.

No, they wouldn't. They'd all get eradicated by their Avatar's fusion. No reason to believe that clones with Susanoo weaker than the original are going to hold off something on a completely different level than the original.

Sasuke warping Both the Perfect Susano'o and Kyuubi Avatar is a feat from the VOTE fight.

OP said that they don't get it if it's believed that it's too advanced for them to use. Neither of these feats are something too advanced for them to use.

Limbo would be knocking on that Gudodama sheild.

And that's the best it'd do since it won't get through it.

 

[Omar19992010]

When Madara has a Mokuton feat good enough to let him redirect RSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama, then we can talk. When Madara can form Mokuton in mid air, to catch a Bijuu Dama aimed at his Chibaku Tensei...then we can talk.


No, they wouldn't. They'd all get eradicated by their Avatar's fusion. No reason to believe that clones with Susanoo weaker than the original are going to hold off something on a completely different level than the original.



OP said that they don't get it if it's believed that it's too advanced for them to use. Neither of these feats are something too advanced for them to use.



And that's the best it'd do since it won't get through it.

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Hashirama was going to redirect a Juubi TBB. This is his Clone we're talking about.
JJ Madara's Mokuton>>>>Hashirama's by light years. Unless you believe that Hashirama is better at Mokuton than JJ Madara then Madara or Madara's Clones can easily redirect or pong Naruto's TBB right back at him.

It's not just Susano'o Clones that are keeping them busy there's also the Chibaku Tensei raining down on them and like I said before Madara's gonna make them bigger than before to compensate for the extra fire power Naruto and Sasuke have or he can just Make One Giant Chibaku Tensei.

Even if Sasuke can Teleport the Susano'o outside the Barrier Madara's going to light the Area up with
Fire Style: Hidden in Ash Jutsu to make Amenotejikara useless since Sasuke can't swap with what he can't see.

If Naruto and Sasuke wrap themselves in an Gudodama shield then Limbo's are going to bust it wide open and even if you believe that's not the case it's not that hard for Madara to use Storm Release Light Fang to break open the Shield.

 

[KidGamer65]

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Hashirama was going to redirect a Juubi TBB. This is his Clone we're talking about.
JJ Madara's Mokuton>>>>Hashirama's by light years. Unless you believe that Hashirama is better at Mokuton than JJ Madara then Madara or Madara's Clones can easily redirect or pong Naruto's TBB right back at him.

Nope. Read the scan in it's entirety. Context and all. Hashirama AND the Shinobi alliance were going to deflect the Juubi's Bijuu Dama to the sea, not catch it and redirect it like you claim Madara would do, not to mention that doesn't change the fact that he can't use Mokuton in mid air, so he can't catch Bijuu Dama aimed at his CT, something you clearly ignored when replying to my post.

Shinju is the largest scaled Mokuton related thing that Madara will EVER produce, and Lava Rasen Shuriken one shotted it. You can forget about Mokuton being any factor in this fight, at all.

It's not just Susano'o Clones that are keeping them busy there's also the Chibaku Tensei raining down on them and like I said before Madara's gonna make them bigger than before to compensate for the extra fire power Naruto and Sasuke have or he can just Make One Giant Chibaku Tensei.

1. They can warp right to Madara's tree and obliterate it and then take care of all the "distractions"

2. They'd blow past the clones. They aren't even a factor here. They'd blow through CT. If Madara makes it larger, they still rape it considering PS Slash was getting blocked by Naruto's tails, and PS slash took out those Meteors. Bijuu Dama>>PS Slash. A standard Bijuu Dama would obliterate more than one CT Meteor at a time, let alone a barrage of Bijuu Dama blades or a Flash Bijuu Dama. Madara's CT will never get to a size where they can't obliterate it, not to mention they can destroy the tree and destroy Madara's CT, no reason they need to focus exclusively on one thing.

Even if Sasuke can Teleport the Susano'o outside the Barrier Madara's going to light the Area up with
Fire Style: Hidden in Ash Jutsu to make Amenotejikara useless since Sasuke can't swap with what he can't see.

When you can show me any feat that proves the following, then we can talk.

1. Prove that Sasuke needs to see what he needs to warp to.

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Unless he has X-Ray vision, there is no way that he saw that area he warped to.

2. Prove that Madara can create a Hidden in Ash Jutsu large enough to cover the entirety of the barrier, which dwarfs the Juubi in size.

If Naruto and Sasuke wrap themselves in an Gudodama shield then Limbo's are going to bust it wide open and even if you believe that's not the case it's not that hard for Madara to use Storm Release Light Fang to break open the Shield.

I'm noticing one major flaw with your argument. Feats and actual gauges of Madara's strength. Anyone who reads the manga knows that Limbo bypassing the Gudo Dama is false. Gudo Dama tank Bijuu Dama, unless you can show me Limbo producing something stronger than a Bijuu Dama, there is no denying that Gudo Dama tank it.

And Ranton Kouga isn't going to do anything either. Not stronger than a Bijuu Dama, nor does cutting a staff=cutting a shield.

 

[Scryed]

Kurama PS obliterates Madara's Rikudou PS.

Madara loses to them High dif if he switches with Limbos to prevent being sealed. Unless Naruto makes 100 clones to fight his Limbo.

It will start perhaps in Madara's favor until Nardo and Sauce get used to their powers. Naruto learns he can fly, etc.