Sibce on my previous thread (Nagato and Itachi vs Team Kage) it was an agreement between everybody that the duo would win mid diff, I woul like to raise the stakes a little. This time only Nagato will go up against them.
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Location: Konoha Crater.
Distance: 50 meters.
Intel: Manga.
Conditions: Everyone is alive and healthy. Nagato is mobile with Deva Paths speed and agility feats.Only shown feats. No hype or implied techniques
Restrictions: None.
Scenario 2: Everyone is Edo. The fourth Kazekage will have Gaara's sealing feats
CST kills Mu and Gaara's dad once Mu is out of the picture Chibaku Tensei ends this. Nagato simply uses his summonings to stall Joki and 3rd Raikage until he can use Chibaku Tensei.
Nagato swarms them with summons at the start of the match and hides in his chameleon. If the Raikage tries to blitz Nagato during this time he simply gets his Raiton Armor absorbed off of him and Soul Ripped. Besides that, the Kages have no way of detecting Nagato's chameleon, which means they have to deal with summon spam, ST + chakra cannon ambushes even if Mizukage hides himself and the rest with the clam. Mizukage's genjutsu won't be much help either, as Nagato simply makes it rain to get the general location of the clam, then promptly destroys it with a summon/chakra cannon.
The only person capable of taking out the Cerberus is Mu with Jinton, and he can't launch that without becoming visible, or being sensed building chakra for it by Nagato, which means he runs the risk of getting BT and stabbed with a chakra rod/Soul Ripped. Multiple viewpoints from the summons and Nagato growing extra faces with Asura Path also makes it impossible for Mu to sneak and physically attack Nagato without him reacting.
Mizukage's arsenal is nothing to worry about once the clam is destroyed, the Kazekage's Gold Dust gets repelled by a Healthy Nagato's casual STs or a chakra cannon, and the Raikage isn't fast enough to blitz Nagato at any instance due to Nagato's reflexes being good enough to react to V2 Bee (which would be enhanced by his sensor abilities and extra viewpoints). Once Mu is defeated, there's nothing stopping Nagato from ending the rest with CST or CT. Or he could just pick them off one by one by chameleon ambush + BT + Soul Rip/ST.
Second Scenario is a stomp in Nagato's favour as ST/Preta Path stops him from being sealed, and Soul Rip/Soul Dragon from Gedo Mazo takes them all out.
--Rain tiger at will is a means of contact sensing and helps him locate Muu and the mizukages clam, as once that happens, the clam gets taken out by shurado missiles or ST, whilst muu gets taken out by either a large scale ST or BT+Ningendo
--Third Raikage is not doing much here,, his speed gets tracked by nagato, his RNY gets absorbed by preta, and he ends up getting restrained by shurado therefore enabling nagato to kill him with ningendo
--With muus invisibility attacks being moot infront of nagatos contact sensing and his jinton being negated by preta,there isnt anything that hes doing at all, then theres also the fact that nagato can hide himself in chameleon which even KCM naruto failed to sense, allowing nagato to catch muu off guard and finish him off more efficiently
--Fourth Kazekage is garbage here, he gets foddered by missiles, summmons and large scale STs
--With muu down, nagato can just finish the kages off with CT, and with third raikage down, a CST is also a GG
CST kills Mu and Gaara's dad once Mu is out of the picture Chibaku Tensei ends this. Nagato simply uses his summonings to stall Joki and 3rd Raikage until he can use Chibaku Tensei.
Mu lightening the Third Raikage means that Nagato stands absolutely no chance at reacting to that speed. Lightened Third Raikage is around V2 Ay level's speed which was too fast for Sasuke to track with MS. He gets blitzed and killed by Nukite. Being a sensor doesn't help because his sensing feats aren't high enough to allow him to react to an attack on that level of speed.
ST does nothing since the Raikage tanks that attack, and his body acts as a shield for Muu (who is on his back) so Muu doesn't take any damage from ST either as Raikage protects him. Then Raikage blitzes him during the 5-second cooldown time. Mizukage can tank ST also with hydrification though he isn't needed here. CST isn't doing anything either since Raikage's durability ≥ V4 Susanoo so even though his RnY would be removed as a result he still tanks the attack, as his physical body is the main reason Raikage is so durable. At worst, Raikage takes the damage from the attack and Muu (on Raikage's back) survives. After using CST Nagato loses Deva Path abilities so nothing stops him from going invisible and slicing Nagato's head off.
BT + Soul Rip being used on the Raikage is suicide for Nagato since drawing him into close range just leaves him vulnerable to getting torn apart with Nukite which extends far from the Raikage's fingertips (
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) and kill him before Nagato can physically touch him. Shurado arms are never restraining the Raikage as Raikage can see them coming out react accordingly by cutting the arms apart before they make contact with him. Using BT also leaves Nagato vulnerable to attacks from the other kage so if he draws in the Raikage, Muu (on his back) can fly off of Raikage's back, go up to Nagato while invisible, then kill him with a sword.
If Chibaku Tensei is used, lightened Raikage can jump from rock to rock until he reaches the CT core where he destroys it with Nukite. Also, Mu can lighten the CT to counter it's gravitational effects just by touching it like Onoki did with Madara's meteor.
Nagato swarms them with summons at the start of the match and hides in his chameleon. If the Raikage tries to blitz Nagato during this time he simply gets his Raiton Armor absorbed off of him and Soul Ripped. Besides that, the Kages have no way of detecting Nagato's chameleon, which means they have to deal with summon spam, ST + chakra cannon ambushes even if Mizukage hides himself and the rest with the clam. Mizukage's genjutsu won't be much help either, as Nagato simply makes it rain to get the general location of the clam, then promptly destroys it with a summon/chakra cannon.
The only person capable of taking out the Cerberus is Mu with Jinton, and he can't launch that without becoming visible, or being sensed building chakra for it by Nagato, which means he runs the risk of getting BT and stabbed with a chakra rod/Soul Ripped. Multiple viewpoints from the summons and Nagato growing extra faces with Asura Path also makes it impossible for Mu to sneak and physically attack Nagato without him reacting.
Mizukage's arsenal is nothing to worry about once the clam is destroyed, the Kazekage's Gold Dust gets repelled by a Healthy Nagato's casual STs or a chakra cannon, and the Raikage isn't fast enough to blitz Nagato at any instance due to Nagato's reflexes being good enough to react to V2 Bee (which would be enhanced by his sensor abilities and extra viewpoints). Once Mu is defeated, there's nothing stopping Nagato from ending the rest with CST or CT. Or he could just pick them off one by one by chameleon ambush + BT + Soul Rip/ST.
Second Scenario is a stomp in Nagato's favour as ST/Preta Path stops him from being sealed, and Soul Rip/Soul Dragon from Gedo Mazo takes them all out.
Summons are absolute non factor as not a single one of them can keep up with lightened raikage level speed and can be oneshotted by Nukite. Nagato is not summoning the chamaleon and crawling in its mouth before Raikage can close the gap between them and target the general area, not to mention the 4th Kazekage can detect the chamaleon by spreading gold dust around like how Gaara detected the Mizukage's clam. If Nagato makes it rain to reveal the general location of Mizukage's clam then he also reveals his own location inside the chamaleon. Cerberus does not need to be taken out, it can literally be ignored here or Raikage cuts off all its heads in one sweep just like he cut off all the Hachibi's tails in one strike. Large-scale jinton can be used to eradicate summons and if Mu uses jinton behind the Raikage who can be used as a human shield, Nagato can't hurt him even if he can detect him when he goes visible.
@Bold, uh what? Nagato got
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, him reacting to lightened Raikage is a joke as his sensing doesn't have the feats to prove he can react, and the extra viewpoints are non factor when they can't visually track him.
--Rain tiger at will is a means of contact sensing and helps him locate Muu and the mizukages clam, as once that happens, the clam gets taken out by shurado missiles or ST, whilst muu gets taken out by either a large scale ST or BT+Ningendo
--Third Raikage is not doing much here,, his speed gets tracked by nagato, his RNY gets absorbed by preta, and he ends up getting restrained by shurado therefore enabling nagato to kill him with ningendo
--With muus invisibility attacks being moot infront of nagatos contact sensing and his jinton being negated by preta,there isnt anything that hes doing at all, then theres also the fact that nagato can hide himself in chameleon which even KCM naruto failed to sense, allowing nagato to catch muu off guard and finish him off more efficiently
--Fourth Kazekage is garbage here, he gets foddered by missiles, summmons and large scale STs
--With muu down, nagato can just finish the kages off with CT, and with third raikage down, a CST is also a GG
Rain Tiger at Will ain't contact sensing, it's chakra-based
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It can give him a general idea of where the Mizukage's clam is by seeing where the raindrops aren't hitting, but he won't be able to see clearly enough to detect Mu the same way. RTAW also reveals Nagato's position if he hides inside the chamaleon. Muu isn't getting taken out with Raikage acting as a human shield.
Lightened Raikage's speed is not getting tracked by Nagato. RnY getting absorbed by Preta is irrelevant since the moment Raikage makes physical contact with Nagato, he gets his head smashed in by his physical power. Muu is also there on his back to make his punches heavier so they do extra damage, so close combat isn't getting Nagato anywhere.
Muu will be in formation on the Raikage's back in this battle, who can use his body as a shield to protect Mu from ST or CST. If Nagato draws in Raikage with BT, Mu asassinates him. If Nagato uses CST and loses Deva abilities, Mu still asassinates him. Bold is only thing I agree with.
Nagato isn't picking off Muu if he's in formation with the Raikage, and CT can be countered as I described above. CST most likely won't even kill the Raikage but if it does, Raikage's body acts as a shield for Muu and takes the damage from CST whereas Mu remains unscathed, and can go in for an asassination since Nagato doesn't have Deva abilities to repel Mu away from him.
K. Look, I don't think Im going to reply to everything because:
A. Im kinda busy (going back to my University!)
B. Its really too bothersome
Mu lightening the Third Raikage means that Nagato stands absolutely no chance at reacting to that speed. Lightened Third Raikage is around V2 Ay level's speed which was too fast for Sasuke to track with MS.
First of all, did Muu ever shown to do anything regardind weightning or making something lighter besides his own flight? I just think is a little far fetched apply all of Oonoki's feats to him seeing as he could not even light himself up after being weightened down by Oonoki.
He gets blitzed and killed by Nukite. Being a sensor doesn't help because his sensing feats aren't high enough to allow him to react to an attack on that level of speed.
Rain. Tiger. At. Will. And even if you keep denying is contact sensing, He can just watch the rain drops ricochet from his body Lol
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See this "aura" of water that forms around you while you are on the rain? Yeah... He can't hide.
And Im pretty sure Rinnegan can see him...
BT + Soul Rip being used on the Raikage is suicide for Nagato since drawing him into close range just leaves him vulnerable to getting torn apart with Nukite which extends far from the Raikage's fingertips (
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) and kill him before Nagato can physically touch him.
Actually, this combo works because out dear Nagato can do something called multy-task. Meaning: He can keep his preta path shield, that covers all around him. Nukite won't ever touch him. Fun facto is, He did all that while simultaniously ripping Naruto's soul out. So when his Nukite and Raiton cloak is out (seeing that the entirety of Bee's v2 cloack got sucked in one touch), He then proceeds to grab and rio his soul out.
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@Bold, uh what? Nagato got
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, him reacting to lightened Raikage is a joke as his sensing doesn't have the feats to prove he can react, and the extra viewpoints are non factor when they can't visually track him.
He got "blitzed" But still managed to take zero damage from an attack that busted Kisame's ribcage open (and don't come saying that's because he was an Edo. We did not see any paper or signos He was damaged by said attack) and He managed to rio Bee's cloak on the process
Thats just the things that I tought required a comeback...
Just saying...
Nagato wins this. I didn't even mentioned things like Gedo Mazo, Chibaku Tensei and Cho Shinra Tensei...
Nope its a means of contact sensing, the rain drops themselves are imbued with nagatos chakra so they are directly linked to him, as any one with a chakra different from nagato that gets into contact with the rain drops would be located,
muu hides his chakra but its still there, so when the rain drops hit him, nagato detects an invisible chakra and attacks muu
It can give him a general idea of where the Mizukage's clam is by seeing where the raindrops aren't hitting,
Not seeing why the rinnegan cant see through the clam genjutsu,
and even then Rain tiger at will helps him get an idea of the clams location so it gets taken care of
but he won't be able to see clearly enough to detect Mu the same way
yes he will as already explained above,
the very moment when the rain drops hit muu, nagato would be able to sense his presense and since the rain drops are directly imbued with nagatos senses, he would be able to locate him and take him out
there is also the fact that unlike other dojutsus,
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so muus invisbility can also be countered througgh that, though thats not the only thing nagato could do
. RTAW also reveals Nagato's position if he hides inside the chamaleon.
both of them get drawn in by BT and then restrained by shurado, as once that happens its a GG,
the human shield only prevents him from large scale ST, however thats not needed when nagato can kill 2 birds with one stone
Lightened Raikage's speed is not getting tracked by Nagato.
nagatos sensing feats are comparable to his if not even better, seeing how he was
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not seeing why he gets blitzed by raikage
and unlike muu, he doesnt need to physically evade his attacks, to counter them,
RnY getting absorbed by Preta is irrelevant since the moment Raikage makes physical contact with Nagato, he gets his head smashed in by his physical power.
its relevant because preta would completely diminish the power of the raikages attacks,
and itll make it moot just how it did to bees lariat which could have wrecked nagato yet it clearly didnt
Muu is also there on his back to make his punches heavier so they do extra damage, so close combat isn't getting Nagato anywhere.
I wont consider muu to have the aggravated rock technique but even if he does it wont do much
mainly due to the fact that to do that, the raikage needs to get heavier,, which decreases his speed, and allows nagato to blow him back with ST or restrain him with shurado
Muu will be in formation on the Raikage's back in this battle, who can use his body as a shield to protect Mu from ST or CST.
and how is he going to do that?
his invisiblity is moot infront of RTAW and Rinnegan, so any attempts that he might have at attacking him get him restrained the same way that it would to the raikage
and his jinton iis also moot infront of preta,
so no matter how you look at it, muu is not doing much at all
If Nagato uses CST and loses Deva abilities, Mu still asassinates him. Bold is only thing I agree with.
How is muu doing that? all you're telling me is that he assassinates him without an explanation
furthermore if CST takes out everyone bar Muu, than Deva is noot even needed to take muu out when he cant do shit here
muu gets located, and then attacked by multiple summons and missiles,
Nagato isn't picking off Muu if he's in formation with the Raikage,
if CT draws muu in towards it, than jinton wont be cutting it, since muu would be constantly getting hit by the rocks,
otherwise jinton can work, but CT is not needed here, its only a GG with muu out of the picture
CST most likely won't even kill the Raikage but if it does, Raikage's body acts as a shield for Muu and takes the damage from CST whereas Mu remains unscathed, and can go in for an asassination since Nagato doesn't have Deva abilities to repel Mu away from him.
so even if muu is behind the raikage,, nagato can focus his force on to both of them and they both die,
whats worse is that CST iis a repulsive force, so if muu is behind the raikage then they get pushed back, and muu would be the one falling flat under gravity with the raikage on top of him, so either way they pasted
moreover nagato ddoesnt even need deva to repel back muu from attacking him,
missiles do the trick just fine, or shurado limbs restrain him the moment he comes up close, and with chameleon aiding nagato into sneak attacks, means that muu gets restrained just how KCM naruto did,
Mu lightening the Third Raikage means that Nagato stands absolutely no chance at reacting to that speed. Lightened Third Raikage is around V2 Ay level's speed which was too fast for Sasuke to track with MS. He gets blitzed and killed by Nukite. Being a sensor doesn't help because his sensing feats aren't high enough to allow him to react to an attack on that level of speed.
Nagato can react to his speed when he can simply put Preta path up which would absorb his Ration armor and nukite. Nukite is nothing once Preta path comes up and unlike Samehada when Preta path absorbs something it doesn't take damage.(
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). Once Nukite and his ration armor is absorbed Nagato proceeds to blow them to bits. The 3rd Raikage might survive but Mu who is on his back is getting killed by this.(
ST does nothing since the Raikage tanks that attack, and his body acts as a shield for Muu (who is on his back) so Muu doesn't take any damage from ST either as Raikage protects him. Then Raikage blitzes him during the 5-second cooldown time. Mizukage can tank ST also with hydrification though he isn't needed here. CST isn't doing anything either since Raikage's durability ≥ V4 Susanoo so even though his RnY would be removed as a result he still tanks the attack, as his physical body is the main reason Raikage is so durable. At worst, Raikage takes the damage from the attack and Muu (on Raikage's back) survives. After using CST Nagato loses Deva Path abilities so nothing stops him from going invisible and slicing Nagato's head off.
Actually a CST kills Mu maybe not the third and that's once again spectacle. Once a CST hits them they'll go flying at insane speeds Mu who's on the 3rd Raikage is crushed once he hit the ground seeing as a CST sent boss summonings flying out of a village.(
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). now if humanoid figures are hit they'll fly even farther and hit the ground even harder. Mizukage water body is bombarded and vaporized via Missiles.(
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). also not his water body consist of oil which will make the missiles more explosive. Even if he did lose Deva path abilities Mu still could do anything once Mu tries to take his head off via Kunai Ashura metal body parts tanks it.(
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). then he gets raped up and get his soul removed.
BT + Soul Rip being used on the Raikage is suicide for Nagato since drawing him into close range just leaves him vulnerable to getting torn apart with Nukite which extends far from the Raikage's fingertips (
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) and kill him before Nagato can physically touch him. Shurado arms are never restraining the Raikage as Raikage can see them coming out react accordingly by cutting the arms apart before they make contact with him. Using BT also leaves Nagato vulnerable to attacks from the other kage so if he draws in the Raikage, Muu (on his back) can fly off of Raikage's back, go up to Nagato while invisible, then kill him with a sword.
If Chibaku Tensei is used, lightened Raikage can jump from rock to rock until he reaches the CT core where he destroys it with Nukite. Also, Mu can lighten the CT to counter it's gravitational effects just by touching it like Onoki did with Madara's meteor.
BT and Preta renders the nukite Combo useless. Once again useless he'll have his Ahura body complimented by Preta path so trying to stab will be useless. Not going to happen L0l @ Nukite ripping apart CT not happening. Chibaku Tensei build up is far to quick.(
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). as we see how little the Rasenshuriken and Bijuudama are the 3rd Raikage is cutting through that. Do you even hear yourself? If my tries to weigh down CT he gets smashed by incoming debris.
