Deidara and Ay vs Sasori and Jiraiya

[Sageflash]

Location: Sannin Showdown
Mindset: Normal
Knowledge: None
Restrictions: Jiraiya starts in Sage Mode, Sasori starts with 3rd Kazekage puppet out


Random encounter, teams start 70 meters apart. Who wins?

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasori and Jiraiya wins med high difficulty.

Deidara isn't going anywhere once the fire and oil combo comes out. Sound genjutsu takes out Ei and then Sasori poisons him. ​

 

[MasqueradeNX]

Sasori and Jiraiya wins med-high diff

 

[ARGUS]

Deidara and Ay win this high diff

 

[Beans2]

Deidara and Ay win this high diff

How? Jiraiya starts in SM

 

[ARGUS]

How? Jiraiya starts in SM

--Starting distance of 70m, means that deidara can evade all of their attacks just fine, katon and oil combo gets evaded when he was manoeuvring around gaaras sand which is faster, and when hee can send out C2 bombs to take out jiraiyas summons,

--Jiraiya is not reacting to Ay the moment hes within 30m to him, Frog Call gets evaded by V2 Ays shunshin as Ay moves around it as he gets slammed by a lariat, or held down and killed by a liger bomb

--Yomi Numa is also not restraining Ay when he can channel raiton chakra to nullify its doton sucking effect, and when deidara can just evade it just fine

--Jiraiya isnt counering C4 either, not when Ay can channel raiton chakra to counter it fine, and when he can divert jiraiyas attention towrads himself whilst deidara sets it up and finishes him off

--Sasori is non factor here, he isnt doing shit here when he isnt scratching Ays armor, he gets blitzed and killed by him the moment Ay gets close too him, he also has no means of countering deidaras large scale bombs so C3 is an automatic GG for him,

 

[super yang]

Jiraiya beats raikage & sasori beats deidara

sasori trolls deidara w/ the sand rain & Jiraiya will put down raikage eventually, whether he has to use a sword or a trap, or ninjutsu

 

[Beans2]

--Starting distance of 70m, means that deidara can evade all of their attacks just fine, katon and oil combo gets evaded when he was manoeuvring around gaaras sand which is faster, and when hee can send out C2 bombs to take out jiraiyas summons,

--Jiraiya is not reacting to Ay the moment hes within 30m to him, Frog Call gets evaded by V2 Ays shunshin as Ay moves around it as he gets slammed by a lariat, or held down and killed by a liger bomb

--Yomi Numa is also not restraining Ay when he can channel raiton chakra to nullify its doton sucking effect, and when deidara can just evade it just fine

--Jiraiya isnt counering C4 either, not when Ay can channel raiton chakra to counter it fine, and when he can divert jiraiyas attention towrads himself whilst deidara sets it up and finishes him off

--Sasori is non factor here, he isnt doing shit here when he isnt scratching Ays armor, he gets blitzed and killed by him the moment Ay gets close too him, he also has no means of countering deidaras large scale bombs so C3 is an automatic GG for him,

Jiraiya can close the gap between himself and Deidara by summoning Gamabunta who jumps to Deidara's level, then Ma or Pa uses their tongues to

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and cause an imbalance which results in Deidara falling to the ground. As Deidara is falling he gets grappled by Shima's tongue, or cut in half by Bunta's sword. C2 is not doing shit to boss summons seeing as CM2 Sasuke tanked C2, whereas Gamabunta tanked Shukaku's wind bullet and survived a large-scale Shinra Tensei despite breaking many bones.

Shima can spit out her smokescreen to block Ay's vision so he wouldn't know where to target Jiraiya. Sensing Barrier allows Jiraiya to detect Ay's location when he comes in range and with frog kata he can easily react to V1 Ay and can mentally react to V2 Ay even if not physically. Yomi Numa would slow him down and shadow clones can be used as diversions so when he attacks one, the others counterattack. Ay has a linear fighting style when he goes in to attack so he can definitely be caught by Frog Call especially if the dust cloud is used first and he can't see it coming, and once he's paralyzed he gets obliterated by Chou Oodama Rasengan

C4 nano bombs are sensed by Jiraiya as well as the other toad sages and Fukusaku can blow it back with his fuuton or Gamabunta can just jump out of C4's range seeing as Sasuke monkey hopped out of its range without trouble.

Sasori isn't non factor, since Jiraiya can attack Ay as he blitzes Sasori. lol. I think Jiraiya can potentially solo this though.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Sasori and Jiraiya win this medium difficulty... Honestly Jiraiya has a chance to solo this since he starts in sage mode.

>The weakest link here is actually Deidara, not Sasori. Sasori matches Deidara's flight with his own on the Iron Sand. C1/C3 bombs are a non factor, and C2 gets countered by a shield of IS. The only problem here is C4, but he won't have time to prep it while facing IS drizzle barrages. A nendo bunshin feint won't work since the sand would pierce through Deidara's bird.
>Jiraiya can also swiftly handle Deidara by having a boss summon leap to the latter's altitude, and from there on, it's GG Deidara with the numerous ways Jiraiya can kill him.
>Ay may be faster than Jiraiya, but the latter has several ways to end the former as well. Ay's a rather linear fighter and doesn't exactly use his brain during battle. A simple strategy would be to utilize Shima's Fūton dust cloud to inhibit Ay's vision + trap him in Yomi Numa to buy some time, then make several kage bunshins to combat him while he's getting out of the distractions. All of these clones can use a sensing barrier (whose range should be much wider due to the senjutsu enhancement) to track Ay's movements. The real Jiraiya can just have Ma and Pa prep Frog Song while Ay's screwing around with the clones, then it's GG for the raikage

 

[ARGUS]

Jiraiya can close the gap between himself and Deidara by summoning Gamabunta who jumps to Deidara's level, then Ma or Pa uses their tongues to

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Deidara or Fukusaku can use his

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and cause an imbalance which results in Deidara falling to the ground.

Except the starting distance is 70m to begin with, and deidara can fly much higher than gamabuntas jumping range, thus enabling him to evade the above attacks,
he can also send in clay bombs to stop bunta from closing the distance, as a C3 kills jiraiya right there, or Ay can also assist in hitting jiraiya or his summon thus stopping them from getting close to deidara

As Deidara is falling he gets grappled by Shima's tongue, or cut in half by Bunta's sword. C2 is not doing shit to boss summons seeing as CM2 Sasuke tanked C2,

C2 is still a hindrance to bunta regardless of whether he could tank it or not, and deidara can send in multiple clay bombs to prevent them from coming close to him,
or Ay can just stall jiraiya as deidara preps C4 and finishes him off, whilst Ay surivves thanks to his raiton affinity

whereas Gamabunta tanked Shukaku's wind bullet

Im pretty sure

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instead of tanking it
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and survived a large-scale Shinra Tensei despite breaking many bones.

He was completely one shotted by it, and was unable to even move,
not seeeing why C3 is not a GG for him here when nothing suggests that he could tank a nigh village buster

Shima can spit out her smokescreen to block Ay's vision so he wouldn't know where to target Jiraiya.

Dust cloud only lasts a certain amount of time, as once the dust disappears, jiraiya gets blitzed

Sensing Barrier allows Jiraiya to detect Ay's location when he comes in range

Sensing barrier only gives a rough indication of where Ay would be, it wont pinpoint Ays llocation compeltely,
Jiraiya knowing the rough whereabouts of Ays location isnt helping him react any better

and with frog kata he can easily react to V1 Ay and can mentally react to V2 Ay even if not physically.

does Jiraiya even have frog kata? and would his use even be sufficient enough to ''easily'' react to V1 Ay?

and @Bold - No he's not doing shit against V2 Ay, not mentally and certainly not physically
he isnt reacting to him when even MS sasuke was blitzed by Ay,

not to mention that what good is mental reaction doing to jiraiya?, if he cant react physically?
especially when he doesnt have any sort of defense like susanoo to prevent himself from getting wrecked by Ay,

Yomi Numa would slow him down

its still a doton jutsu, so it gets countered by Ays raitons affinity

and shadow clones can be used as diversions so when he attacks one, the others counterattack.

Except the shadow clones can even be countered by deidaras clay clones or bombs, and when Jiraiyas shadow clones have no attack that would even land on Ay so they are not doing much

Ay has a linear fighting style when he goes in to attack so he can definitely be caught by Frog Call especially if the dust cloud is used first and he can't see it coming, and once he's paralyzed he gets obliterated by Chou Oodama Rasengan

That is good and all, however frog calls range is quite minimal when the peins paths were out of its range by it

C4 nano bombs are sensed by Jiraiya as well as the other toad sages and Fukusaku can blow it back with his fuuton

Fuuton would only blow back a minimal amount of bombs,

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or Gamabunta can just jump out of C4's range seeing as Sasuke monkey hopped out of its range without trouble.

there is no need of using C4 with bunta present,
the summmon can be taken out by C3, or its time limit can just be outlasted
so once the summon disappears, than Deidara can finish him off, and with Ay diverting jiraiyas attention away from deidara, means that he can precisely land his attack on him,

Sasori isn't non factor, since Jiraiya can attack Ay as he blitzes Sasori.

Nope sasorri is non factor,
his attacks are garbage to Ays RNY, and they lack the speed to get to deidara,
and he also lacks the durability to tank either of their attacks,,

and in your scenario jiraiya would just get attacked by deidaras clay bombs in that interval
deidara isnt just standing there and doing nothing

whats worse is that all of jiraiyas attacks are still reacted and evaded by Ay, he isnt landing a single hit on him here

lol. I think Jiraiya can potentially solo this though.

Nope, Deidara and Ay together would rape him

C1/C3 bombs are a non factor

explain why this is the case?,
not seeing how sasori could counter this, so he gets vaporised by it

 

[MasqueradeNX]

Sasori and Jiraiya mid diff....

 

[Unorthodox]

Jiraiya solos

 

[wael reda]

Sasori and jiraya mid-high diff

 

[Zexion~]

Yomi Nura is a doton right? If so Deidara and Ay win medium difficulty

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Jiraiya and Sasori wins high diff

 

[Beans2]

Except the starting distance is 70m to begin with, and deidara can fly much higher than gamabuntas jumping range, thus enabling him to evade the above attacks,
he can also send in clay bombs to stop bunta from closing the distance, as a C3 kills jiraiya right there, or Ay can also assist in hitting jiraiya or his summon thus stopping them from getting close to deidara


C2 is still a hindrance to bunta regardless of whether he could tank it or not, and deidara can send in multiple clay bombs to prevent them from coming close to him,
or Ay can just stall jiraiya as deidara preps C4 and finishes him off, whilst Ay surivves thanks to his raiton affinity


Im pretty sure

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instead of tanking it
im going to need a scan for this one


He was completely one shotted by it, and was unable to even move,
not seeeing why C3 is not a GG for him here when nothing suggests that he could tank a nigh village buster


Dust cloud only lasts a certain amount of time, as once the dust disappears, jiraiya gets blitzed


Sensing barrier only gives a rough indication of where Ay would be, it wont pinpoint Ays llocation compeltely,
Jiraiya knowing the rough whereabouts of Ays location isnt helping him react any better


does Jiraiya even have frog kata? and would his use even be sufficient enough to ''easily'' react to V1 Ay?

and @Bold - No he's not doing shit against V2 Ay, not mentally and certainly not physically
he isnt reacting to him when even MS sasuke was blitzed by Ay,

not to mention that what good is mental reaction doing to jiraiya?, if he cant react physically?
especially when he doesnt have any sort of defense like susanoo to prevent himself from getting wrecked by Ay,


its still a doton jutsu, so it gets countered by Ays raitons affinity


Except the shadow clones can even be countered by deidaras clay clones or bombs, and when Jiraiyas shadow clones have no attack that would even land on Ay so they are not doing much


That is good and all, however frog calls range is quite minimal when the peins paths were out of its range by it


Fuuton would only blow back a minimal amount of bombs,

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there is no need of using C4 with bunta present,
the summmon can be taken out by C3, or its time limit can just be outlasted
so once the summon disappears, than Deidara can finish him off, and with Ay diverting jiraiyas attention away from deidara, means that he can precisely land his attack on him,


Nope sasorri is non factor,
his attacks are garbage to Ays RNY, and they lack the speed to get to deidara,
and he also lacks the durability to tank either of their attacks,,

and in your scenario jiraiya would just get attacked by deidaras clay bombs in that interval
deidara isnt just standing there and doing nothing

whats worse is that all of jiraiyas attacks are still reacted and evaded by Ay, he isnt landing a single hit on him here


Nope, Deidara and Ay together would rape him


explain why this is the case?,
not seeing how sasori could counter this, so he gets vaporised by it

You're right. SM Jiraiya can't take on a speedster on the ground and simultaneously deal with getting assaulted from the air with bombs. Sasori is too useless so Deidara and Ay win.

Bunta tanks wind bullet:

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[Lariatoo]

With Jiraiya starting in SM and no knowledge on Sasori's poison team two definitly wins.

 

[Zexion~]

They have no way of touching Deidara in the air, if Jiraiya tries to use toads Ay blitzes the shit out of them and slams them to the ground and he can survive the fall back down

 

[Sageflash]

Jiraiya can close the gap between himself and Deidara by summoning Gamabunta who jumps to Deidara's level, then Ma or Pa uses their tongues to

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Deidara or Fukusaku can use his

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to

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and cause an imbalance which results in Deidara falling to the ground. As Deidara is falling he gets grappled by Shima's tongue, or cut in half by Bunta's sword. C2 is not doing shit to boss summons seeing as CM2 Sasuke tanked C2, whereas Gamabunta tanked Shukaku's wind bullet and survived a large-scale Shinra Tensei despite breaking many bones.

Shima can spit out her smokescreen to block Ay's vision so he wouldn't know where to target Jiraiya. Sensing Barrier allows Jiraiya to detect Ay's location when he comes in range and with frog kata he can easily react to V1 Ay and can mentally react to V2 Ay even if not physically. Yomi Numa would slow him down and shadow clones can be used as diversions so when he attacks one, the others counterattack. Ay has a linear fighting style when he goes in to attack so he can definitely be caught by Frog Call especially if the dust cloud is used first and he can't see it coming, and once he's paralyzed he gets obliterated by Chou Oodama Rasengan

C4 nano bombs are sensed by Jiraiya as well as the other toad sages and Fukusaku can blow it back with his fuuton or Gamabunta can just jump out of C4's range seeing as Sasuke monkey hopped out of its range without trouble.

Sasori isn't non factor, since Jiraiya can attack Ay as he blitzes Sasori. lol. I think Jiraiya can potentially solo this though.

Just pointing out, Jiraiya does not know Frog Kata. Interesting change of heart though.

Yomi Nura is a doton right? If so Deidara and Ay win medium difficulty

Correct, it is a doton technique.

 

[TRE MERCER]

--Starting distance of 70m, means that deidara can evade all of their attacks just fine, katon and oil combo gets evaded when he was manoeuvring around gaaras sand which is faster, and when hee can send out C2 bombs to take out jiraiyas summons,

You realize 70m isn't enough that isn't even the size of a Football field which the oil and Fire combo can cover atleast 13 football fields.(

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).Deidara get roasted and that's not even including the time it takes Deidara to make the clay into bird form and the make it bigger. ​

They have no way of touching Deidara in the air, if Jiraiya tries to use toads Ay blitzes the shit out of them and slams them to the ground and he can survive the fall back down

Yep he going to blitz Gamabunta when he can jump miles into the air.(

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). ​