[Question] What if?

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Yeah, because fights in One Piece are all about power levels, and technique/luck/PIS/other factors don't matter. Just ask Sugar.
Power is incredibly important though, no matter how lucky you are nobody can defeat somebody higher up the tier ladder e.g. Buggy (with his Bara Bara no Mi) vs the likes of Post TS Zoro or Mihawk

Exactly, which is why, regardless of power levels, Law is going to use his technique to place Doffy in Bellamy's body? Your own logic got used against you hahahaah
 

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Power is incredibly important though, no matter how lucky you are nobody can defeat somebody higher up the tier ladder e.g. Buggy (with his Bara Bara no Mi) vs the likes of Post TS Zoro or Mihawk
Was Luffy really stronger than, say, Enel? He only won because rubber beats electricity. Same goes for Croc, Luffy had to exploit his DF's weakness and repeatedly got beaten by him before. Power levels aren't everything.
Exactly, which is why, regardless of power levels, Law is going to use his technique to place Doffy in Bellamy's body? Your own logic got used against you hahahaah
Nah. My logic says that plot prevents Law from cheating like that. He could've brought a no-name fodder along and do the personality swap from the beginning, but that's not going to happen.
 

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Of course it's the plots fault the plot dictates everything that happens so stop with that ridiculous excuse. Have you read OP? Water affects DF's, Laws room by the definition of a DF already established, can't reach under water. Meanin it's impossible to switch anyone with something underwater and as Oda gave powers of flight in a way to Doffy he can't just drop him in the water either.
Incorrect. Law's power lifted both the Marine ship, which is lined with Seastone, and some of the water it was in. If what you said was true, Law's power wouldn't have worked on either the ship or the water it was sitting in. Law's powers can definitely reach underwater.
 

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You're blind as bat, where do you think is the other end of that spheres?

and like I said Aokiji and Kizaru's DF powers already reached underwater how come Law's can't?

open your eyes bat XD

XD XD XD
Show Law using his room underwater or all your emoticons are nothing more than a cheap deflecting attempt. I may be "blind" but at least my brain can accurately assess what my eyes see. Oda has shown nothing that proves or even insinuates Law can switch objects from underwater.
 

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Incorrect. Law's power lifted both the Marine ship, which is lined with Seastone, and some of the water it was in. If what you said was true, Law's power wouldn't have worked on either the ship or the water it was sitting in. Law's powers can definitely reach underwater.
Laws room went around the ship, his power is control of anything in that room, because the seastone wasn't touching him that's a non factor.

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I don't see any water being picked up here, I see the meteor trail and impact but no water.
 

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Show Law using his room underwater or all your emoticons are nothing more than a cheap deflecting attempt. I may be "blind" but at least my brain can accurately assess what my eyes see. Oda has shown nothing that proves or even insinuates Law can switch objects from underwater.
but at least my brain can accurately assess what my eyes see
I don't think so XD XD

Answer my question

how come Aokiji and Kizaru's DF powers can reach underwater and Law's cant?

so Law's DF is curving when reaching water? XD XD

and I'm not saying using it underwater, I thought you use your brain?

Law can make big rooms that can reach underwater

that brain ain't working bud
 

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Show Law using his room underwater or all your emoticons are nothing more than a cheap deflecting attempt. I may be "blind" but at least my brain can accurately assess what my eyes see. Oda has shown nothing that proves or even insinuates Law can switch objects from underwater.
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Law's power clearly working in contact with water, even affecting the water itself.

There's also the fact that whenever Luffy was underwater, his fruit's powers weren't negated, he simply couldn't control his body(Such as when Arlong threw him into his pool thing, and Luffy's neck could still be stretched by that old man). and therefore his powers. If Law creates a Room near the coast of the beach, and it goes underwater, he can control things in the water because he retains control over his body(and by extension his powers) and water doesn't neutralize his powers.
 

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I don't think so XD XD

Answer my question

how come Aokiji and Kizaru's DF powers can reach underwater and Law's cant?

so Law's DF is curving when reaching water? XD XD

and I'm not saying using it underwater, I thought you use your brain?

Law can make big rooms that can reach underwater

that brain ain't working bud
Law and Aokijji/Kizaru are two different types of DF's did you really need that spelled out for you? Talk about using your brain.

"and I'm not saying using it underwater, I thought you use your brain?"
You said Law should just switch Doffy with a rock underwater so how again is that not saying use it underwater? ok we're done here.
 

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Of course it's the plots fault the plot dictates everything that happens so stop with that ridiculous excuse. Have you read OP? Water affects DF's, Laws room by the definition of a DF already established, can't reach under water. Meanin it's impossible to switch anyone with something underwater and as Oda gave powers of flight in a way to Doffy he can't just drop him in the water either.
- Luffy can stretch underwater
- Robin can grow limbs underwater
- Kizaru's light reaches underwater

Don't know where you got that "Law's DF doesn't reach underwater" from.
 

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Law's power clearly working in contact with water, even affecting the water itself.

There's also the fact that whenever Luffy was underwater, his fruit's powers weren't negated, he simply couldn't control his body(Such as when Arlong threw him into his pool thing, and Luffy's neck could still be stretched by that old man). and therefore his powers. If Law creates a Room near the coast of the beach, and it goes underwater, he can control things in the water because he retains control over his body(and by extension his powers) and water doesn't neutralize his powers.
Jesus @the bold part

how come I didn't thought of that earlier XD

good one
 

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Was Luffy really stronger than, say, Enel? He only won because rubber beats electricity. Same goes for Croc, Luffy had to exploit his DF's weakness and repeatedly got beaten by him before. Power levels aren't everything.
This doesn't change my point. Doflamingo doesn't even have weaknesses to exploit with Luffy's rubber powers. Power levels are still integral otherwise some fodder would be able to take down a Yonkou, it just doesn't work like that.

Nah. My logic says that plot prevents Law from cheating like that. He could've brought a no-name fodder along and do the personality swap from the beginning, but that's not going to happen.
Well, it isn't cheating by using his devil fruit power is it? There's Trebol as well as Bellamy there, and surely having a fodder would make it far less amusing or epic if Law does in fact pull it off. Bellamy has great significance to the plot and he is on the verge of death anyway (and since Oda didn't kill him off before, I doubt he ever will, hence life in Doffy's body in plausible). Luffy could quite easily get into real trouble and then Law swaps the two into different bodies, allowing Luffy to defend himself against "Bellamy" (with Doflamingo inside his body)

I just envision that as a badass way to pull it off. You can't refute it, it does make sense.
 

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Law and Aokijji/Kizaru are two different types of DF's did you really need that spelled out for you? Talk about using your brain.

"and I'm not saying using it underwater, I thought you use your brain?"
You said Law should just switch Doffy with a rock underwater so how again is that not saying use it underwater? ok we're done here.
So Law's powers can affect water and Seastone, which gives off the same energy as water, but his powers are neutralized by water when it comes to things underneath it? You do realize this is what you're saying, right?
 

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Law and Aokijji/Kizaru are two different types of DF's did you really need that spelled out for you? Talk about using your brain.

"and I'm not saying using it underwater, I thought you use your brain?"
You said Law should just switch Doffy with a rock underwater so how again is that not saying use it underwater? ok we're done here.
How come luffy's DF ain't negated? brain damage bud? XD

and oh

sorry about that Law can definitely switch flamingo w/ something underwater even if his DF power is underwater

yeah Law can definitely switch something
 
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Well that is the scan we were talking about when you joined the conversation buddy boy
It doesn't matter that that's the scan you were talking about when this started. All that matters is this scan.
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I noticed you directly avoided the first post that I made with this image. Will you do it again because it proves what you're saying is false?
 

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How come luffy's DF ain't negated? brain damage bud? XD

and oh

sorry about that Law can definitely switch flamingo w/ something underwater even if his DF power is underwater

yeah Law can definitely switch something
Than why has he not switched Doflamingo with a rock underwater?
Are u implying Oda is some noob writer ? Cause it sure as hell looks that way
 

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Than why has he not switched Doflamingo with a rock underwater?
Are u implying Oda is some noob writer ? Cause it sure as hell look that way
Like what I said in the first page

Plot is holding Law's HAX DF back

noob writer
If you want it to put that way

and like the other guy said

Law can just bring some fodder and do the swap personality thing w/ mingo
 
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Like what I said in the first page

Plot is holding Law's HAX DF back



If you want it to put that way
It just mean's Law's current strength is not capable of doing so
Don't give me that plot bull
Why is Doflamingo not using his hax powers to control Law and make him cut of his own head? I have not seen any proof that he can't
 

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It just mean's Law's current strength is not capable of doing so
Don't give me that plot bull
Why is Doflamingo not using his hax powers to control Law and make him cut of his own head? I have not seen any proof that he can't
Then plot is holding Mingo down too

Law's current strength is not capable of doing so
Nah Law's current strength is capable of mountain cutting rooms

plot is holding law down
 
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