Non Jin Madara's PS can replicate Rinningan Sasuke's PS feats

[wael reda]

madara can indeed replicate sasukes feat if you actually look at how big the shinjus trunk is and madaras CT compared to it and the surrounding mountains.

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people saying that the rubble from one CT dwarfed mountain ranges are deluding themselves. the scan that people use clearly illustrates that so much rubble has collected from all of the CT being destroyed that the collective rubble dwarfs mountain ranges.

we already see how big the shinju is compared to mountains. we see how big madaras fully formed CT are compared to the shinju and mountains. the rubble of one CT does not dwarf mountain ranges. the CT and the shinjus trunk in width are simply multimountain sized.

However I won't use mountains argument
What do you think about my proof of the trunck being 1/2 or 1/3 the barrier size?

 

[TheSages456]

However I won't use mountains argument
What do you think about my proof of the trunck being 1/2 or 1/3 the barrier size?

the trunk of the shinju can fit inside obitos barrier. the only thing that wouldnt be able to fit are the roots that extend outward.

 

[wael reda]

the trunk of the shinju can fit inside obitos barrier. the only thing that wouldnt be able to fit are the roots that extend outward.

Exactly ,that is what I am trying to show

 

[wael reda]

@KG ,
If you still don't want to use the small circle ,you can use the larger circle and my point would stay there
Here ,you can compare between the tree's trunk 's diameter and the the larger circle's diameter

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And here you can compare between the barrier's size and the larger circle's size

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,you can see that the gab between the larger circle and the tree's trunk in terms of size is bigger than the gab between the larger circle and the barrier in terms of size ,meaning that the barrier is still at least 2x the trunk

The trunk size being overrated all this time is what makes agreeing with me hard ,you can't accept the fact that the trunck is smaller than the barrier ,jubito removed the barrier before summoning the tree just because of the tree's roots

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yea if it swings at it 30 + times it should have no problem accomplishing this feat. ​

 

[Kagustuchi]

You didn't take perspective into account, which pretty much makes your whole thread invalid from the get go

 

[juzumaki]

You didn't take perspective into account, which pretty much makes your whole thread invalid from the get go

this^

 

[KidGamer65]

When I use mountains logic ,you come with BS out of ass
Can you prove that is clusters of mountains !? Because the vision is so clear here Lol

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See, with the sitty mountains argument ,EMS mafara can cut the tree with just a shockwave ,do I need to explain more why I won't take mountains argument seriously?
Mountains argument is invalid ,considering all mountains has the same size size is BS .

Already replied to this, if you are just going to repeat the same thing, don't bother posting.

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Mountains retard.

Sasuke's PS and Naruto's Avatar are near Mountain Sized. Sasuke's PS was dwarfed by the Meteors.

-The tree was randomally formed then ,which means what was there isn't necessarily the trunck only (it can be the trunck,roots and the tree itself)

Yet the trunk alone was shown to be the size of the barrier at the very least.

-Yes the small circle is between 2x and 3 x the tree trunck

Uh no.

- what is the drop slam? lol

- no ,that smaller Circle was curved when jubito fired 4 TTB inside the barrier ,anyone with a mind will know that ,therefore the small circle size = the barrier size ,therefore the tree's trunck's size is just 1/2 or 1/3 the barrier

What the hell are you talking about? Juubito's Bijuu Dama never made any kind of impression on the ground they were fighting.

-No ,if sasuke's legged susano cut something C X his susano's size ,then madara's PS can surly cut something c x his PS's size

Conclusion:
-The tree's trunck is between 1/2 and 1/3 the smaller circle size ,isn't it?

Nope.

-since the smaller circle size = the barrier's size ,then the tree's trunck is also between 1/2 and 1/3 the barrier size

Nope.

considering sasuke's legged Susano cutting things much much bigger than its size ,madara's PS can cut things much much bigger than its size so sm madara's PS can cut the tree's trunck with one direct hit

Sasuke's Susanoo cutting something 3x it's size=/=Madara's Susanoo cutting something about 20x it's size.

 

[Zee U]

First:

Crater of Naruto and B's combined Bijuudama

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, that's the "small crater" you are talking about. Then Shinju used Tenpenchii, and another bigger crater was created

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, lower panel in the centre. You can see the sea in the lower right, so that is the crater the Shinju is standing on

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. After JJ Obito's body slam, the crater became this large

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. As anyone can see now it covers about half of Shinju's roots. It's so big even the Bijuus are midgets in front of it

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Second:

The CTs compared to the Shinju stump

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, and a size calc for those CTs (unless you have a better method to calculate their size): http: //www .naruto forums.com / blog. php?b=22330 (remove spaces). The biggest mountains Madara cut compared to his PS

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, it's around half of the height of those, come on. You can see Mokujin on SS's head, thus we can conclude the mountains he can cut are the size of those at SS's feet

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. That, with shockwaves. Someone on NF did this to compare Madara's PS and CST, but it will be useful here too

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. By eyeballing that isn't even 20 kilometers of shockwave. Look at how Sasuke cut the CT, with two swords

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, merely using the physical strenght of his Susanoo. He is so fast that his swords create freaking air that can cut Shinju stump sized CTs

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. Then look at those feats: Sasuke was about to cut Naruto's Rikudou avatar's tail in three swings (that in base survived a freaking Juubi laser that is > nine Bijuudamas) while Madara failed to cut Hashirama's mokujin with multiple swings (the same Mokujin that was busted by a standard Bijuudama).


Third:

CTs are way more durable than standard rock, due to the pressure of the CT orb keeping the rocks so close. Naruto's KN6 Bijuudama caused this blast

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, yet it didn't do anything to Nagato's CT

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Let's not joke here, Madara ain't no Hagoromo.

 

[Conspirator.]

First:

Crater of Naruto and B's combined Bijuudama

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, that's the "small crater" you are talking about. Then Shinju used Tenpenchii, and another bigger crater was created

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, lower panel in the centre. You can see the sea in the lower right, so that is the crater the Shinju is standing on

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. After JJ Obito's body slam, the crater became this large

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. As anyone can see now it covers about half of Shinju's roots. It's so big even the Bijuus are midgets in front of it

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.


Second:

The CTs compared to the Shinju stump

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, and a size calc for those CTs (unless you have a better method to calculate their size): http: //www .naruto forums.com / blog. php?b=22330 (remove spaces). The biggest mountains Madara cut compared to his PS

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, it's around half of the height of those, come on. You can see Mokujin on SS's head, thus we can conclude the mountains he can cut are the size of those at SS's feet

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. That, with shockwaves. Someone on NF did this to compare Madara's PS and CST, but it will be useful here too

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. By eyeballing that isn't even 20 kilometers of shockwave. Look at how Sasuke cut the CT, with two swords

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, merely using the physical strenght of his Susanoo. He is so fast that his swords create freaking air that can cut Shinju stump sized CTs

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. Then look at those feats: Sasuke was about to cut Naruto's Rikudou avatar's tail in three swings (that in base survived a freaking Juubi laser that is > nine Bijuudamas) while Madara failed to cut Hashirama's mokujin with multiple swings (the same Mokujin that was busted by a standard Bijuudama).


Third:

CTs are way more durable than standard rock, due to the pressure of the CT orb keeping the rocks so close. Naruto's KN6 Bijuudama caused this blast

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, yet it didn't do anything to Nagato's CT

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Let's not joke here, Madara ain't no Hagoromo.

This explained it perfectly.

 

[BLAZE]

First:

Crater of Naruto and B's combined Bijuudama

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, that's the "small crater" you are talking about. Then Shinju used Tenpenchii, and another bigger crater was created

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, lower panel in the centre. You can see the sea in the lower right, so that is the crater the Shinju is standing on

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. After JJ Obito's body slam, the crater became this large

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. As anyone can see now it covers about half of Shinju's roots. It's so big even the Bijuus are midgets in front of it

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.


Second:

The CTs compared to the Shinju stump

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, and a size calc for those CTs (unless you have a better method to calculate their size): http: //www .naruto forums.com / blog. php?b=22330 (remove spaces). The biggest mountains Madara cut compared to his PS

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, it's around half of the height of those, come on. You can see Mokujin on SS's head, thus we can conclude the mountains he can cut are the size of those at SS's feet

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. That, with shockwaves. Someone on NF did this to compare Madara's PS and CST, but it will be useful here too

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. By eyeballing that isn't even 20 kilometers of shockwave. Look at how Sasuke cut the CT, with two swords

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, merely using the physical strenght of his Susanoo. He is so fast that his swords create freaking air that can cut Shinju stump sized CTs

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. Then look at those feats: Sasuke was about to cut Naruto's Rikudou avatar's tail in three swings (that in base survived a freaking Juubi laser that is > nine Bijuudamas) while Madara failed to cut Hashirama's mokujin with multiple swings (the same Mokujin that was busted by a standard Bijuudama).


Third:

CTs are way more durable than standard rock, due to the pressure of the CT orb keeping the rocks so close. Naruto's KN6 Bijuudama caused this blast

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, yet it didn't do anything to Nagato's CT

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Let's not joke here, Madara ain't no Hagoromo.

This right here

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Facepalm. I'll I see is a size comparison, not a feat. For your thread to have a tiny bit of legitamacy, you'd need to at least show Madara making a shockwave reaching through the barrier.

 

[wael reda]

Sorry ,I was busy studying the last 3 weeks

First:

Crater of Naruto and B's combined Bijuudama

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, that's the "small crater" you are talking about. Then Shinju used Tenpenchii, and another bigger crater was created

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, lower panel in the centre. You can see the sea in the lower right, so that is the crater the Shinju is standing on

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. After JJ Obito's body slam, the crater became this large

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. As anyone can see now it covers about half of Shinju's roots. It's so big even the Bijuus are midgets in front of it

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Okey,I think I was mistaken about the small crater ,but I disagree about the part that jiubiobito's slam drop has increased the crater diameter ,the manga didn't show so ,logic doesn't say so ,the slam drop only made a huge hole inside the crater ,it had nothing to do with the crater diameter, and you can also see that even before obito's slam drop ,the small crater was covering a big part of the tree roots (ignore the green circle)

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I was mistaken about the small crater but my point is still there ,I'll try to make it clearer .
At worst cases ,I'll consider that the crater that the barrier was created inside ,is the small crater that the tree is above.

Let's see how big the trunck to the small crater .

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You can see that the truck is about 1/3 of the small crater ,1/2 at most .....................(1)


Let's see how big the branch that ems sasuke's legged Susano cut .

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You can see that half of the branch is about 10x the legged susano's size(I am quite generous ,it is about 11x) ,and the branch radius is about 2x the susano's height ....................(2)


Now let's see how big is the trunck to madara's PS .
From (1) ,that is nearly the trunck scaled to the scan where madara's PS is inside the barrier(and I am so generous here too) .

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You also can see that half of the trunck is about 20x the PS ,and the trunck's radius is like 3.5 x the PS's height ,4 at most ....................(3)

From (2) and (3) ,the truck size/madara's PS size is about 2x the branch size/sasuke's legged Susano size .

With simple logic, if EMS sasuke's legged Susano can cut something Cx its size ,then madara's PS can cut something Cx its size,but from my simple calculations ,the trunck is 2Cx madara's PS size ,alright? ,but let's check something about sasuke's legged susano cutting the branch .

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You can see that sasuke cut that branch with an arrow not a sword ,that can make some difference .

Conclusion:
I amnot sure if EMS madara's PS can cut the trunck with one direct hit ,but SM madara PS can surly do that considering that his PS is enhanced with hashirama's senjutsu and the rikudo chairs that madara created by merging ashura and andra chakra,and can surly cut the meteor whose bigger diameter is about 2x the trunck diameter .

Also The size of 10%Katsuya summoned by byakugu sakura and tusonade compared to the tree roots in the scan above ,shows that the tree trunck size is overrated .

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CTs are way more durable than standard rock, due to the pressure of the CT orb keeping the rocks so close. Naruto's KN6 Bijuudama caused this blast

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, yet it didn't do anything to Nagato's CT

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I already talked about that part in my main post .
here 6 tailed naruto was charging mini ttb and pain dropped a rock on him to detonate the attack at him .

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But here you can see that the rock wasn't fully destroyed though it is much smaller than nagato's CT ,even pain came out from this attack with just torn clothes .

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This means that this mini TTB 's impression isn't that strong ,not that this rocks and pain have immense durability
So no ,CT's rocks have no durability over the normal rocks

 

[Bronze]

That was an outstanding post, wael reda. I'll have to save it for future needs.

 

[wael reda]

That was an outstanding post, wael reda. I'll have to save it for future needs.

Thanks,bro

 

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[JStar King]

Madaras PS will destroy Sasukes PS, a advantage Sasuke PS has is because it can fly.

Keep telling yourself that

 

[wael reda]

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What is your point?
This just shows that one root's bigger diameter is much smaller than the barrier's diameter,that means the trunck would be as I calculated

 

[DaemonSpade]

Keep telling yourself that

juubi jin madara destroys nv and one piece altogether.

 

[TRE MERCER]

This shows that one root's diameter is much smaller than the barrier's diameter

Ignore the root measurement i was showing you how much wider the God tree is compared to the barrier. ​